Hi

I have been looking at Iclone and Daz3d for a couple of years and the software is certainly improving very quickly.

I am looking to embark on a fairly expensive project where I want to use "lower end priced software" to create a movie at least 80, possibly 90 minutes in length. The render speed on iclone is amazing compared to Daz but Daz does seem to have better quality renders and the models are very very good. Does anyone have any opinion on what way I should go for my "core platform"?

Also, I am looking for a couple of excellent developers/animators in Iclone/daz to price up some work. Where is the best place to locate these people?

Thanks

Stu
New Zealand

Hi,
have a look at this video. It´s made with iclone5 and got a lot of laudatory remarks. Perhabs it will help at your "core" decision

Greets
Robert
Germany



Gruß
Robert

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Hi Stu

Daz is excellent for still image renders but its render times even then can be long. For animation with several characters, render times will be immense and could be in days rather than hours.

iClone works in realtime meaning what you see is what you get. This makes setting up your scenes much easier. Render times will be tiny compared against Daz and if you add in the easy way you can animate your avatars using stock motions or puppeteering profiles its really a no brainer as far as I'm compared.

Now you might say I'm biased, but I originally switched to iClone from using Poser/Daz because you can achieve in minutes what can take days in those products. :)

                                                                

Peter
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  I started with Daz back before version 1 and until recently I was happy with it. I dropped my membership in December because of the direction Daz is going. I don't feel it can do the animation of iClone and I find it easier for the pictures I do. iClone doesn't have the full detail of Daz Characters but I like to do mainly scenery with just a few characters for the plot. If you need the detail of Daz Graphic its still good but if you want to get into animation stick with iClone.

It need not be an either or choice, the basic Daz studio is free, there are lots of freebies to use on sharecg, Renderosity and Content Paradise as well as the paid content and a lot of the props can be exported as obj and opened in 3dx and exported to iClone.
Figures can too using the paid fbx exporter plugin.
You can just use both!
I myself use Carrara most of the time because I like pretty HD scenes with lots of detail but again such scenes can be then used in iClone as video Backgrounds.
Go for the strengths of each, even Bryce which is far too slow and tedious for me (Bryce5 is free) can be used for making beautiful backgrounds, iClone's strength is quick easy actor animation and speech, sets for those actors can indeed use backdrops with foreground props and a feature I have yet to utilize, pop video insertions.

There is a couple of forum members that have done long projects in iClone, so it is feasible. As to recruiting animators/developers, this forum is as good a place as any to ask. People have done that in the past with details then worked out through PMs (you may need a minimum number of posts to use PMs).

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Hey Swoop, Post an optimized texture map so we can actually see what you mean.

EDIT: Are you talking about stuff like this description of TopoGun?

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  I hate to be the one to get off the topic but is there a tutorial or more info on UV maps and texture baking someplace? I would like to know more.

Preferably something usable for iClone without a lot of miscombobulations with other expensive 3rd party applications?