Well, hopefully Thunderjunkie hasn't seen most of this thread, because it might give the wrong impression of the usually friendly and helpful people here...

There are a lot of posts with how-tos in this forum, and when you get stuck, just ask a question!

(BTW, I do have an opinion on the subject...but it would be too, uh, European, and I am an American now...)

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besides, this is how we learn!! it is part of our heritage to go off on tangents to ease the stress of finding an organized system of tutorials. we have come a long way since the wiki wars. I personally have requested a player vs player module since iclone 3.

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Thunderjunkie please post again!
I do hope you have not been scared off, there are lots of people here more than happy to sell you content and tutorials or you can just do what I did, try stuff and see what works or scream at your computer when it doesn't!
Start off simple, load a few friends heads to the characters and use the text to speech to make them say silly things!
Put homemovies in the background (under 2D background) then slowly try animation
everything is basically drag and drop.

Well I went to bed last night happy with my morals wake up this morning to find my thinking is the cause of society moral break down and I have been party to hijacked a thread ....

I Personally do not feel its hijacking to follow issues that a thread may bring up, but accept that others do..

I would start another thead about Iclone and adult material as I feel sooner or later its going to be a issue to talk about, as it is for Daz users, but as it went downhill quickly here I dont think I will ...

Just for the record though one of my morals is never to inflict my morals on anyone else, I believe in this very strongly...




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Well-said, Gerry:).

I'm glad I'm not a New iClone User.:ermm:

This Thread is the worst example of Thread hijacking on "Any" Forum I Post in.

Perhaps the original Poster would like to join-in the Warlord's Tutorial Thread, where there's "Constructive" discussion:) & not "Destructive", as this Thread has become.:angry:

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"Socially WIDELY HELD values" from the 1950s means just that. No one said EVERYONE thought the same way. However, racism and homophobia WERE widespread AND socially accepted "values" back then --- and they were backed up by segregation/"separate-but-equal" Jim Crow laws (until 1965!), anti-miscegenation laws (until 1967!), sodomy laws (until 2003!) and "separate-but-equal" same-sex Civil Unions (still ongoing struggle for equality), whether we like it or not. These are historical facts. Happily, values change and, like societies themselves, evolve over time. Pretending otherwise --- despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, is just plain silly. Enough already! Please get back to this thread's original subject!


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From W.H. Auden's (1907-1973) 1942 poem "Canzone":

When shall we learn, what should be clear as day,
We cannot choose what we are free to love?
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August Graf von Platen-Hallermünde (1796-1835),
Auszug aus einem "An Justus Liebig" gerichteten Gedicht von 1828:

Soll bergen ich mein innerstes Vermögen,
Was ich empfinde zu bekennen schwanken?
Ich schämte mich der eigenen Gedanken,
Wenn sie, wie Schwalben, an der Erde flögen.
Hienieden lohnt's der Mühe nicht, zu zagen,
Und wahr und frei zu sprechen kleidet Jeden,
Da bald wir Alle ruhn in Sarkophagen.

While there have been several examples of post hijacking on the Forum, this thread has to be one of the worst examples available.

The original poster started by asking:

A post by a porno King, the attacks on his work and the subsequent freedom of speech support posts have done nothing to help to OP.

For the OP,

most of the iClone videos are available on Youtube.

You can also view stuff at the iClone Training Center.

Gerry

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I, as a rule, do not babble, sir. It is you who aren't making sense, while accusing me of talking nonsense.
Upholding (socially widely held) "values" taught to you (no matter how wrong and/or harmful from a modern-day perspective, and no matter how much they might be in violation of today's equal rights legislation) will get yourself into a moral dilemma.
There is no room for the societal values of yore (listed above) in a world where citizens' civil rights are recognized and honored as a part of the common good.

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From W.H. Auden's (1907-1973) 1942 poem "Canzone":

When shall we learn, what should be clear as day,
We cannot choose what we are free to love?
--------------------------------
August Graf von Platen-Hallermünde (1796-1835),
Auszug aus einem "An Justus Liebig" gerichteten Gedicht von 1828:

Soll bergen ich mein innerstes Vermögen,
Was ich empfinde zu bekennen schwanken?
Ich schämte mich der eigenen Gedanken,
Wenn sie, wie Schwalben, an der Erde flögen.
Hienieden lohnt's der Mühe nicht, zu zagen,
Und wahr und frei zu sprechen kleidet Jeden,
Da bald wir Alle ruhn in Sarkophagen.

Sex and desire are good things, natural urges that harm no one and bring pleasure to those involved (this is where religion has got it all wrong, instrumentalizing normal desires every healthy adult has by turning them against people; inducing guilt into those who fall into their sexphobic, ideological trap, the easier and better to control and manipulate the masses). Sex, love and desire per se have nothing whatsoever to do with violence. What YOU probably mean are rape, and the sexual abuse of minors, which ARE violence.

P.S. I do NOT share the "values" of my parents' generation, who valued America's anti-miscegenation laws and unquestioningly expected blacks to take a seat in the back of the bus, while gays and lesbians were to remain invisible, were hunted down by McCarthy's cronies, and forced to face dire consequences upon detection (loss of reputation, job, freedom, or even life). For more info on life in the McCarthy Fifties, check the following link (a trailer to the movie "The Lavender Scare"):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xnFv-SrYJ0E
Those days are dead and gone, thank goodness! Welcome to 2012!

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From W.H. Auden's (1907-1973) 1942 poem "Canzone":

When shall we learn, what should be clear as day,
We cannot choose what we are free to love?
--------------------------------
August Graf von Platen-Hallermünde (1796-1835),
Auszug aus einem "An Justus Liebig" gerichteten Gedicht von 1828:

Soll bergen ich mein innerstes Vermögen,
Was ich empfinde zu bekennen schwanken?
Ich schämte mich der eigenen Gedanken,
Wenn sie, wie Schwalben, an der Erde flögen.
Hienieden lohnt's der Mühe nicht, zu zagen,
Und wahr und frei zu sprechen kleidet Jeden,
Da bald wir Alle ruhn in Sarkophagen.

Swoooop said, "As I have many faults, I would NEVER display something of that nature!
It's Morally Wrong!"

I agree that the video is adult-themed and not meant for kids to watch, but disagree with Swooop's calling it "morally wrong". That is a "value" judgment that American conservatives almost always seem to reserve for the sexual realm. Why? Why is it that the depiction of nudity or sexual suggestiveness is so horrible to the average American, whereas the depiction of all kinds of violence (beatings, torture, murder) is "O.K. in the U.S.A."? In European television, it's extreme violence (bashings/murder/torture) that is censored, while sexuality/nudity is not.

Writer Anne Rice pointed to this odd incongruity/twist in the American psyche a while back: "Gays are in the vanguard of that final divorce of sex from conventional notions of sin; the divorce of sin from mythology and religion. If we can carry this off---if we can take sex out of the realm of sin altogether and see it as something else to do with personal relationships and ethics, then we can finally get around to another phase of Christianity which is long overdue. That phase is the one which deals with the question of sin as violence; sin as cruelty; sin as murder, war and starvation."

To make my point, I'm providing a link to a television ad for the city of Berlin that was produced and paid for by the CONSERVATIVE (!) newspaper "Berliner Morgenpost". The texts appearing in the video read:
"Wenn jeder anzieht, was er will."/"When everyone can wear whatever they want.",
"Wenn eine Familie nicht aussehen muss wie eine Familie."/"When a family doesn't have to look like a family.",
the barkeeper's T-Shirt reads "[Gimme a] Tip or Shut Up", "Wenn's härter gesagt als gemeint ist."/"When it's said more harshly than it's meant.",
"Wenn plötzlich Kunst entsteht."/"When suddenly art occurs.",
"Wenn's 300 Damen vom Grill sind"/"When it's 300 Ladies from the Sausage Grill [instead of 3]",
"Wenn die Stadt für immer ein Teil von dir ist."/"When the city is always a part of you.",
"DAS IST BERLIN"/"THAT IS BERLIN". 'Nuf said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS2nIlPVOh8

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From W.H. Auden's (1907-1973) 1942 poem "Canzone":

When shall we learn, what should be clear as day,
We cannot choose what we are free to love?
--------------------------------
August Graf von Platen-Hallermünde (1796-1835),
Auszug aus einem "An Justus Liebig" gerichteten Gedicht von 1828:

Soll bergen ich mein innerstes Vermögen,
Was ich empfinde zu bekennen schwanken?
Ich schämte mich der eigenen Gedanken,
Wenn sie, wie Schwalben, an der Erde flögen.
Hienieden lohnt's der Mühe nicht, zu zagen,
Und wahr und frei zu sprechen kleidet Jeden,
Da bald wir Alle ruhn in Sarkophagen.