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It would be nice to have that same option in IC to delete the voice file. Maybe a feature request?


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Paumanok West (9/7/2011)
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Crazy Talk definitely allows you to delete the vocals but keep the lip synch
I can't remember precisely how I did it, it wasn't exactly a straight forward procedure though. I think Peter actually suggested how to do it ?


In CrazyTalk, if I remember that far back, you can click on the audio data and select it for deletion. The lipsync has already been generated and it persists.

I think this is repeating what Darren said.

If this is possible in iClone it would be news to me...

I had just answered this today for a CTA user...  You can audio in the timeline (in Pro), but only after you ungroup it apart first.  Right click on it (in Voice Clip track), and choose Ungroup, this will create separate new tracks under voice and lips.  Delete the voice file, and the lip key frmaes remain, thus your moving mouth with no speech. I dont know about IC tho... Sorry to butt in...

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Just to settle this I did a little test tonight. Moving the Vocal slider all the way to the left does indeed suppress the speech of the character(s), also in the rendered video. The Mute setting I mentioned does not suppress the speech. You can use it to suppress any other sounds associated with the character, such as footsteps.


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IMO, P. West has the easiest & quickest solution. Export your project to File DV-AVI or. Uncompressed (RAW) AVI (iclone's Default), in AVI CODEC options Pop-Up. Import that into your NLE Program, if you have one. If you haven't, use Windows Moviemaker, supplied with Windows OS.

Your NLE Program should separate the Audio from the Video Track into a separate Audio Track. Lock the Video Track & Delete the Audio Track & then Render to File DV-AVI again or your chosen Export Format, in your NLE Program..

I hope WMM separates the audio. Haven't used it for many years.

BTW - Goldwave (A free audio Editing Program) separates Audio from Video (I think). I have it & can't remember & haven't time to test it.

I could do a TTS Test in iC4, if & when I have time. I'll be doing TTSs for my current Pinhead project.

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Darren01 (9/5/2011)
Crazy Talk definitely allows you to delete the vocals but keep the lip synch
I can't remember precisely how I did it, it wasn't exactly a straight forward procedure though. I think Peter actually suggested how to do it ?


In CrazyTalk, if I remember that far back, you can click on the audio data and select it for deletion. The lipsync has already been generated and it persists.

I think this is repeating what Darren said.

If this is possible in iClone it would be news to me...

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Wait... lemme see if I've got this...

The vocal volume slider will mute the voice during the preview, but the mute checkbox will prevent the vocal sound track from being exported?

Is that it?

Or did I just confuse myself more? :D




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Okie dokie...

I'm super confused now. So with the vocal volume down, I can turn off the voice in the preview, but not actually in the finished product?

And I probably can in CrazyTalk, but the process isn't very intuitive, apparently.

This seems a little weird... I mean, text to speech is the easiest way to animate speaking, but I'll take a swing and say that no one likes the digitized voices. I'm really surprised there isn't a simple way to animate speech without the voice.

So basically, it's either animate the facial features one word at a time, or buy CrazyTalk and cross my fingers and hope I can figure out how to delete the voice track?





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Paumanok West (9/4/2011)
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To the left is a VOCAL Volume Control...this is an overall Volume control, but the lips will move without sound being rendered.


Yes, but it is my impression that the audio still gets written into the AVI file and there is no kill switch for it. As far as I know, it has to be stripped out of the render in a video editor. We need a mute switch for output.

There is a Mute check mark at the bottom of the right-hand panel for the character, but that doesn't seem to suppress the vocals when unchecked.


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Darren01 (9/5/2011)
Crazy Talk definitely allows you to delete the vocals but keep the lip synch
I can't remember precisely how I did it, it wasn't exactly a straight forward procedure though. I think Peter actually suggested how to do it ?

In CrazyTalk you can change the sound file, but keep the animation. Replacing the speech file with a sound file with just silence would do it.


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Yes, but it is my impression that the audio still gets written into the AVI file and there is no kill switch for it. As far as I know, it has to be stripped out of the render in a video editor. We need a mute switch for output.


Can this be controlled within the CODEC?


No, the codecs for audio and video are separate in most video formats.

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