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Hi.
I don't even know if my title is correct, and I don't know how to Google this.
I bought a pack that has hair props in it (Party something...). I'm trying to apply it to a sheep. It's a cool sheep, it has an afro. When I double click on it I get a message "Failed to load the file". I suppose that it's because the hair prop needs to have a compatible avatar selected in the scene. I just want to load the prop by itself. Is there a way to "de-conform" the prop? In other words, to be able to load it by itself, without an avatar?
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I'm sure there are smarter answers but if you have Character Creator you can load the hair on a character->Select the Hair and then export it as an OBJ file.  The obj can then be loaded into the iclone project and attached to the sheep.


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Aside from the hair compatibility with avatars only, that message normally indicates that there is an issue with the asset or it's not compatible with app version (I see you use iClone 7).
But regardless for iClone7/CC3, you can load hair to the character in CC3, convert hair to Accessory with the button in Modify, then send avatar to iClone.
In iClone detach hair accessory (optionally save it as a prop) and attach it to the sheep.




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4u2ges (10/19/2024)
, convert hair to Accessory with the button in Modify, then send avatar to iClone.


I looked for this option in CC but dont see it.  Can you do that for hair?




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It works!
If this can help any body else that's still in iClone 7, CC3 and 3D Xchange:
- In Character Creator: Export - OBJ - Character with current pose (important. The first option "Nude character in bind pose" will not export the hair)
- In 3D Xchange: Make sub-prop from the hair - export to iClone
- In iClone, open the prop, the avatar will still be attached to it. Select the hair and detach it.
There you go.

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Aside from the hair compatibility with avatars only, that message normally indicates that there is an issue with the asset or it's not compatible with app version (I see you use iClone 7).
But regardless for iClone7/CC3, you can load hair to the character in CC3, convert hair to Accessory with the button in Modify, then send avatar to iClone.
In iClone detach hair accessory (optionally save it as a prop) and attach it to the sheep.

I don't see it either. I figured out a way to do it, but I don't see that option in CC3. Do you mean the button "Create Hair, Brows, Beard"?
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Both CC3/4 have this button for Cloth/Hair/Shoes/Gloves:

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In addition in CC4 you may detach accessory and save it as prop, while for CC3 you have to send character to iClone to detach.




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Don't have that. Just "Edit Mesh" and "Create Hair".
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Yea, the button appears for some of the hair, but not for the party fun afro.


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Probably because that hair appears to be an old CC1.5 hair asset. I forgot they even exist :)

For those types you may still use "Create Hair, Brows Beard" and select Accessory type for conversion (that sort of convert to modern asset type  - ready to be hair or accessory).
And then the "Convert to Accessory" button should be available to actually convert it to accessory.



Update:
After digging a bit deeper...
Those afro hair was probably a unique creation of RL, which had embedded spring bones.
That is why there is a fail safe for converting to accessory.

In case you need to convert to prop and at the same time preserve spring bones structure for interactive hair, you would have to export character to FBX,
then import to Blender, strip everything but the hair and spring bones and import back to 3DX. Then activate spring bones again.





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