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New Iclone render Settings please

Posted By 3Aliens 4 Years Ago
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New Iclone render Settings please

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So for 3 Days now i work on a Live Linke Scene which is 10 Seconds now, between "Rebuild Lighting" and missing Parts, and recorded Sequences dissapear i give up again.
Why RL dont just add an Addon to buy with a better render Quaility. or at least tell me why its not possible...
Ok theres iray, but it need Days to render and it even cant render Popcorn FX.
Once a Guy on Facebook wrote to me the 90 wants there Game Graphic back.
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lol :D

the iclone render is actually pretty decent,  but to get the best looks out of it,  you really need to understand the impact of how each aspect of the lighting works so you know how to "fake" a great look heh!

my first suggestion,  make a project,  then delete all the default lights ..next,  learn to work with everything on the "Visual" panel only.
Iclone lighting does not work like other systems -  basically I've learned that iclone is kind of like a surgical tool - while it's not ray tracing,  each of the tools adds certain items that create the "illusion" of ray tracing,  but if you use default settings you will never see how much detail you can carve out.  Many other modern systems have advanced algorithms and processes that auto do stuff -  where as iclone is all manual - nothing artificially intelligent other than headshot.  

so - familiarize yourself with how the visual's tab lights your scene without any lights -  so you can see how the exposures, blooms and HRI IBL image really effects your scene -  you can also see how what Reallusion calls global illumination affects your scene,  you can appreciate just how much changing the hdr image on the ibl can change your entire mood -  then learn to use the effects panel -  which is really more about brightness contrast and tone than it is about "effects"  

Once you understand the "Visual" panel extensively  -  the main basic lighting will never be the same,  it becomes more of a tool that adds effects than actually just lighting your scene. 

remember,  iclone lighting system is completely different than everything else out there,  it's not a warm algorightm,  it's a cold surgical knife that allows you to fake almost any detail you want -  there is no one size fits all set up in iclone, there's just precision lighting tools to fake a great look.

the iclone philosophy is old school,  and worth learning because once you get how they treated everything,  it carries over to other softwares with the advanced tools,   sadly that doesn't work the same in reverse because advanced tools auto fix something for you,  they don't teach you the comibnation of things you have to do with precisiion tools to get the same auto fix look

a lot of thought went into creating the logistics of iclone,  so much that their philosophy is in the company's name "real illusion"   -  they had to fake a lot of stuff manuallyl to get good looks in the early days of real time rendering -  so we were fortunate to learn what many of these advanced softwares are doing under the hood.  any software i decide to learn,  I would be an advanced student because of what I learned from reallusion logistics.




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As planetstardragon said, the IClone renderer is pretty powerful. You can create some amazing looking scenes with it but you have to spend the time to play around with the lighting. I spend more time with the lighting than I do animating, if that says anything.

You're either going to use a combination of HDR/Tone Map, IBL/no tone map, all of them, or a combination of them. Maybe even the toon shader, but the toon shader only allows you one light to work with so it doesn't work in a lot of scenes. Really just depends what you're going for. There's a ton of options to experiment with.


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I found out all of that allready. I use all thats impossible. My PC always its on his limits.
here a little Example:







But we can go one Step further :DD

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Having render nightmares at the moment. Wrongly believed that 'minimal' mode was like 'quick mode' and after over 12 hours of a computer struggling found that that was what it had rendered - the bloody minimal version! Please take note!

My Question: Can not find ANY information on what the 'Render Acceleration'  tab does. Any idea what  'optimize with full screen render' means and does it work?
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I have not found a difference with render acceleration activated and not activated. The full screen render helps speed up render time pretty well. It deltes everything on the screen except the video. Weird but it makes a very noticeable difference in render time.

My "NEWEST" Latest:)  Movie Made With Amaaaazing iClone


—> High Noon”ish” in Narrow Valley<—



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@kungphu. Thanks for the info, and the tip about full screen is very useful. I have still not mastered rendering as I am sure 'baking' something first might also help, does it? Had a scene that was 23 seconds long, quite a few avatars and DOF and took 12 hours to render. Notice you use quite a lot of elements so what sort of render times do you get? My Graphic card is only 8GB by the way!

Loved 'High Noonish'. I now want part II to see what the hell he did bury! I once found a way to stop light showing under a hat and must try to re-find it as I am going to have that problem in my next project.



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