In my Daz character FBX export steps I am exporting some extra morphs that I have interactive licenses that I use further downstream in Unity.

Is there any way to save these in CC3 once they are imported via transformer? Or is my only option to just save the figure avatar itself?

Up till now (still learning) I have been exporting these with the figure each time. But it adds a lot of waiting time on the export process and tedious management of the janky daz studio morph filter export dialog data.

So for a morph that I might use with any of my figures, is there a way in CC3 where I could save an individual morph dial and thus import it once, instead of every time? And also maybe be able to use it on native cc3 figures too?

That said, one other question slightly related, is it possible to delete or remove a morph, for instance if the daz export/import has picked up some extra morphs I don't need to be carrying around? And/or control if that morph is exported from CC3 to fbx clothed for unity?
Thanks!

Hmm, maybe my problems here are even worse. Is it possible to carry a figure morph from daz to cc3 to unity? I had thought that it was.

In the past before messing w CC3 I used to take daz characters right into unity and bring along morph exports (blendshapes).

With CC3 I am definitely able to export morphs of clothes and hair, carry those into CC3 from Daz, and then into Unity.

Now I just tried to export from Daz a figure w morphs, w attached hair w morphs of its own.

Brought that into CC3+ via transformer. And then exported it to Unity. What I ended up in unity with was not great. I got the figure, missing the expected blendshapes(morphs), and I got the hair, with the hair's morphs as expected, but then the hair also had all the morph names that should have been on the figure body.

I'll try again without carrying along a hair for the ride from daz to cc3 I guess and cross my fingers.

I could swear way back I even had followed and done some CC3 tutorials that included loading viseme morphs in daz, exporting those to CC3 along with the figure, and then from there into unity with the visemes for lip syncing.

edit: just went back and checked in my CC3 project file and yep the hair is showing the missing (expression) morphs on its modify tab, so it must have gotten garbled by daz fbx export, or transformer import I guess. And not a problem with the cc3 export, or unity import.

body morphs are not carried over into CC3. Hair and clothing morphs are.

Wow huge bummer : (

Any chance to get that as a feature update anytime soon?

Daz and CC3 ought to both have nice gui lists filterable/sortable with checkboxes for what morphs to include or not include for exports.

Maybe Daz Bridge will solve this, there is an unreal bridge and unity bridge coming soon. But then no way for me to leverage my CC3 and skingen.

So, here is a kind of content workflow you are missing by not having that feature, and in the market most seem to really be chasing a lot these days, game dev, and seems to me small indies especially when it comes to reallusion and daz.

Look I think reallusion store is great but it only has so much content. I own it all mostly already, but its not enough stuff to make games and other products with on its own, not even close for even a simple project to work with. We can't all hire a huge art and animation department staff, I can't even find other decent programmers most of the time for just corporate work. Daz is huge marketplace, plus rendo, and others etc, free market is great, lots of artists, and material to work with. Basically infinity of stuff when your platform is OPEN for business. For small indi this is great, then stuff can be kit bashed, modified, and augmented with small custom made stuff.

Probably you are aware, there are value priced figures and bundles which often even have included sets of dialable morph facial expressions made tailor to the specific figure, and many other cool sets, and all with a now very low interactive license for the whole set. Or body morphs for figure shape changing at runtime, etc. For which if you are doing a game engine workflow... you could export all those expression morphs onto your figure and code up the nice smiles and expressions made for your figure live action in your game. Boom, I could take a big chunk of stuff and use it right now with just a few import/exports. Yes I know I can make new custom ones in reallusion and will, or it would be nice to tailor/edit these even perhaps and intermix the stuff with my reallusion library and tools to really have it all the best.

Why can't I do that and still have all the great features of skingen, iclone, mocap, facecap, etc that the reallusion stack gives me?

So, I just reconfirmed with testing I can still definitely take daz g8 fbx exports straight into unity and all the exported morphs work great, including daz morph expression dials, as well as body shapes etc. So daz exporter is working fine.

So the choice is sweet easy unity materials setups via cc3 Reallusion, plus awesome skingen enhancements, but no morphs and tons of fabulous content not usable.

Or tedious materials setups... :crying:

But the bridge is coming.

I hope you guys add the morphs import/export soon. Seems like a no brainer, I can't imagine reallusion is making much money on body morphs being a closed shop. I came for the reallusion bridge but stayed for the iclone and skingen.

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Well, I suppose if they want to just be a niche hobbyist tool, I guess that is the right philosophy.

But they appear to want to be a part of the toolstack for game development which is a big rich space in which to operate.

And they have made some great decisions to encourage that which involved a lot of development focus. Such as transformer/3dexchange to bring in daz figures, models and props, skingen pro features to now be able to bring in and use daz L.I.E. graphics. Live Link for Unreal, supposedly live link for Unity eventually. Figure, clothing, hair export and auto setups for Unreal and Unity.

So for a game/experience developer this is a many thousands dollar toolstack that is great for working with content for the game development pipeline (which includes many other tools). Blendshapes missing on the exports to game engines is huge (not just daz bought morphs but blender, zbrush, maya, etc all blocked from the game pipeline use of cc3 figures this way). Folks doing hobbyist video creation, have a severe tunnel vision as to what the vast and expansive real possibilities are when working in a game engine space. You could spend weeks of tedious work hand animating each aspect of each figure and baking it in... Or I could whip up 10x more live, realistic and dynamic animated character/creature content in an afternoon of coding character controller behaviors with blendshapes. And then they're totally dynamic I can reuse them all around where they behave differently and my character becomes alive, reactive, adaptive, not just a pre recorded animation. But then also I could record that action from inside the engine as 4k video with a few clicks. But they are not mutually exclusive, this is your total lack of understanding of game engine space. We certainly want the iClone animation exporting as well for baked animations and bone movement.

I will agree with you though on the bad heavy handedness of the daz forum mods. I totally get you, have read a lot of your posts over time and generally I agree with a lot and enjoy the posts, being a curmudgeon myself as well. But then on this forum there is a much lower level of users and engagement. Which is sad, maybe if there was more welcoming and focus on the game dev world which is a much larger marketplace of people to be tapped into.

RAG DOLL COLLISION ANIMATIONS FOR ICLONE 8 & 7
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Ghost Origins

My latest Feature length film created with Iclone.

My Sci- Fi Graphic Novel on Amazon: https://a.co/d/9k3cwoY

My IMDB listing
Anabran Abdhul Quarnain - IMDb

I wouldn't say that there is little involvement on the forum re game engines, especially Unreal. One user started a whole dedicated thread on how to get things working in that pipeline and RL has put a lot of effort in that.

I'm personally not interested in that path, and I do make movies my way. Autodidact has started a similar thread on using Blender, which to me is more viable. I get the thinking behind Blender, which is more of a regular 3d application.

I've used RL products for over 14 years and there has been an enormous expansion of capabilities. Many new features have been included based on user suggestions.

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