Thank you, I appreciate the kind words.

Honestly, after using the PN for over a year now I have to say I'm sorry I waited.  It's clearly the best mocap solution for the money -- I spent (wasted) a ton MORE money on other solutions (including using just about every possible Kinect solution out there -- and spending as much or more on those solutions).  And the other thing I find is that you might not think you need a lot of mocap but it comes in handy even in very many casual animations -- there's almost nothing I do nowadays that I don't do some capture for.  It makes life SO much easier than trying to edit motions provided by others.

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Mike "ex-genius" Kelley

Thanks, Mike!  Have to second 3dtester on his post in response to your reply. That is super helpful feedback on the PN 2 system -
AND the Leap Motion hand solution.
Much appreciated! :-)
/Robert

Thanks, Mike!  Have to second 3dtester on his post in response to your reply. That is super helpful feedback on the PN 2 system -
AND the Leap Motion hand solution.
Much appreciated! :-)
/Robert

Yes, they give you both sets of gloves, but in my case (at least) the fingerless set was way too small (they gave me a large glove for the finger glove and a medium for the fingerless). So for around $5 I just bought some from Amazon -- almost any would work but these ended up being nearly identical to what was supplied, including having the "roughness" needed to just stick the velcro straps on they supplied.  I felt like this was a whole lot easier than trying to get them to supply the right size (although I think they would have -- support has been absolutely fantastic from them) in that I can easily replace them any time I want (the gloves are very light weight, if you can imagine as these are just cotton fabric -- plus my wife can wear the smaller size if need be).

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Mike "ex-genius" Kelley

That's very helpful indeed. I already see myself having trouble putting the suit on :laugh:
Are the fingerless gloves included in the standard kit?

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Yes, i read about the IKINEMA solution and that it has been discontinued.
Could you kindly tell me a little bit about how your workflow looked?
How much work was it to get the motions into iClone actually?
Thanks.

There is a free UE4-based mocap 'game' i read about somewhere here in the forums.
Anyone who already tried it?

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I'm just using the PN 2.0 -- not the original version (which they no longer sell, I believe) but the lowest end version of what's currently offered.  I actually have two suits, although with my wife's broken arm last year we have yet to do dual captures (I had hoped this weekend but time fell through -- perhaps sometime this week we'll see).  

Although it comes with the gloves and fingers I don't use that setup anymore.  It was just too difficult to work with with the gloves on, so I went with the fingerless gloves.  You still get the hand movements, but not the fingers.  I usually add these in either manually or with my Leap motion but it's not hard to do that way and I SO much prefer having the fingerless gloves so I can manipulate things (including the keyboard) so much easier.  I have the case which supposedly keeps any magnetism from wonking it up, and I have to say that after a year the first suit still works perfectly (I can also put the thing on in less than five minutes now, without even hurrying -- the first time I put it on it took like an hour <g>.  I highly recommend having someone help you with it the first couple of times until you get a feel for how it all goes together).

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Mike "ex-genius" Kelley

Hi, 
I used VIVE with IKINEMA-Orion. And it was really very interesting in terms of price. Unfortunately, however, he no longer offers it. There is no more support.

Hmmm.  Sounds like a compliment both to your excellent mocap casting agent and the subtlety of the P.N. system!
Would you mind sharing which P.N. system you used?
Thanks!

/rj

Thanks for the kind words -- I'm going to try and be around (just thinking now about getting my knee replaced and they say it will last around 20 years or so and I'm thinking -- yep, that's about right, don't need it to last much longer).

How much MOCAP I do is another question entirely (even now it's harder to get the motions I want -- one of my videos I had a viewer comment that the motions for the old people looked SO real and I was truly LOL as that's just... well, me).

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Mike "ex-genius" Kelley