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POPCORNFX in Iclone

Posted By mtakerkart 9 Years Ago
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eternityblue (10/26/2017)
For any other creation using the Software with non-commercial purpose, the Parties agree that THE LICENSEE shall mention the use of the Software by inserting in the opening sequence the Software logo (https://www.popcornfx.com/press/) and crediting the Software with the following notice “Particle effects powered by PopcornFX” in the ending sequence.


BOTH opening sequence AND ending credits?  That's mildly irritating.  I'm okay with including a nod to them in the end-credits, along with all the other software I used.  But even with a personal license, I will have paid for the software, so it's not like I'm using a free copy in exchange for doing advertising.  How abut they "request" we include them in the credits, that'd be more cool.

It reminds me of back in the 1930's, 1940's era when all the movie credits were required to be at the beginning of the movie.




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I can honestly live with that as long as it is 30 euros. I honestly don't think that will happen.

I afraid it will be like $199. Start considering that every other feature in iClone will be upgraded via a paid plugin and not as part of the package and I'm afraid I'll be priced out of this product and not update again. Luckily Blender Eevee is coming and I'll have more options soon.  


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I'm still grumpy about the $150 curve editor, even though I bought it With Pipeline. Blender looks better every single day. That curve editor better be damn good. 

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From what I gathered with the PopcornFX editor, there are a lot of effects you can just grab and use, or adjust a bit and use, I don't think it will be that much of a bear to get things done. And I expect there will be presets for use in iClone without having to use the editor, though that may be an unwise assumption. 

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eternityblue (10/26/2017)
Blender looks better every single day.

Funny, I don't see that...



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Blender looks better every single day.

Funny, I don't see that...

I gotta wonder if you've even looked. 

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Certainly not for character animation, iClone's strongpoint.  iClone has never been about being a 3D rendering program, of which there are far better options out there.  It was first and foremost all about characters, and while it CAN do other things that's not what it is designed to do.

As such, it's one of the strongest options available (which is why so many studios are using it for previz).



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Certainly not for character animation, iClone's strongpoint.  iClone has never been about being a 3D rendering program, of which there are far better options out there.  It was first and foremost all about characters, and while it CAN do other things that's not what it is designed to do.

As such, it's one of the strongest options available (which is why so many studios are using it for previz).

Yeah, Blender just sucks for character animation, lol

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If you saw at the Agent 327 credits , it toke 29 personnes to do this short film. I think Iclone is design for a very small team and often for one man band because it's easy to learn and very fast to do
all process of an animation movie.
Yes Blender could be very cool with it's new Eevee render but it take rocket science skills and very long curve learning.

As you saw in the Iclone announce page  "There will be a paid plug-in and content pack for iClone 7" 
Like speedtrees  or substances pack  I think there will be a cool set of particles. And as you saw on the video , lot of settings are avalaible to play with.

I tried to make the first popcorn wiki tutoriel but when scripting needeed nothing worked...It's really a handicap for me. I really hope that some Iclone users who are comfortable with scripting
will be interest to sell particles in the market place.
I'm too old to leran scripting but I believe Tim Cook when it said that kids must learn as second language coding before english.
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Yeah, that film is really dense for a short flick, but I was pointing out the character animation, which is great. Remember, we are just now getting the curve editor, hand editing in iClone is tedious for many things, including characters. I just wish it weren't $150. And I hope PopcornFX doesn't cost a similar premium. My point about Blender looking better every day is that iClone cost is looking to be much worse for me going forward. And then, things like volumetric and subsurface scattering that will be in Eevee but not yet in iClone make me think I will be rendering in Blender instead of iClone if iClone's rendering isn't improved. And iClone's biggest draw for me was quick rendering, it was the big feature for me. Eevee should be similarly fast, but more powerful. BTW, you can get pre-made rigs for free or cheap for Blender and then make everything for them inside Blender, that includes that character in the flick I posted.

Anyhow, I really hope that PopcornFX plugin is affordable. That means something different to everyone, but I hope it is for me. I would like to see an iClone movie of similar quality one day. 

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