well.. I got mine.. full package.. now I wait..

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however, I'm glad I was wrong for the sake of those whiners around here who wanted this to be free).

You weren't that off. It's just that we are used to your plus or minus 2% accuracy. We were all expecting the worst but we got the best!    :w00t: 

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LOL -- yeah, as I said, I'm glad to have been wrong, as I've already spent WAY too much on software this year.  The thing that really surprised me was not so much the final price as the "surplus" charge they added for the 40 or so FX which I'm going to believe are basic to the plugin (which is to say that folks who don't buy them are going to regret it).  While it does offer a very basic entry level price for those to whom more than $99 would be too much, it's a bit disingenuous (kind of reminds me of the sales you see sometimes and then you come in to the dealership only to find out that "tires are extra").  Not only are those 40 going to be needed, but they will provide a much needed place to start for folks to begin experimenting.

I think it would have been better to just say "$130 for this" and include those FX and tutorials.  But we'll see how many folks complain down the road they didn't get the full package.

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Maybe there's people who already have PopcornFX stuff and don't need the extras...:unsure:

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What is the pre-release bonus"

Funny thing... This morning I  was looking at the offer I just got for the Hitfilm Pro Studio $311 - which includes Hitfolm Pro- Ignite Pro - Action Pro and a ton of plug ins and stuff. 

Maybe with direct integration into Iclone 7 the PopCornFX is quite a deal.   One problem I am thinking would be moving it into IClone is performance.
I have found editors like Sony Vegas, HitFilm,Premier have excellent performance within the specific application. 
My workflow up to now has always been from IClone into Sony Vegas for finish and render.
I have found the more stuff I include into Iclone and import in from 3dxchange the more performance problems I have with both programs. 

It would be interesting to read more about PopcornFx.  Like a previous poster I suspect those FX in the 129.000 package are required for the PopCornFX package to work
This is a plug-in not a complete application I would think $129 is a fair price for the whole package. 
Naturallly, I am also thinking I can do so much more with the Hitfilm package.  My Sony Vegas is version 13 and I am thinking too soon I will need replace or upgrade to better app.
The Iclone path command has always been too complex and tedious... The hitfilm ActionPro may be just what I'm looking for.  I am not sure of it for characters walking, but all kinds other animations it could be a BIG timesaver.

Antareus made a video about Hitfilm, which I will watch again.  Previously,  there was no way to get all the stuff in the new HF Studio pack *too expensive"

Think the pre-release bonus is the examples and videos..  from what I've read on the purchase page. 

I believe it's the "Learning Samples"

Quote from this page  https://www.reallusion.com/store/product.html?l=1&p=ic&login=1#PFX:

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I got the full package...

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It looks to me that the 40 are just selections from the premade effects that come with the editor, brought into iClone for your convenience, but you can just as easily go and export them from PopcornFX yourself, so if you don't buy them from Reallusion, you can still get them for free. The thing like the bugs crawling on the face, that is one of the included ones if you use the editor. The 40 are for people who don't want to mess with the editor. If you use the editor though, you can get hundreds. 

I was hoping for a cheaper price, because frankly I think they should have just updated the particle engine as part of iClone 7, but whatever, I'm cool with $99. If it were $150 or more I'd be pissed since it is only 25 euros for other platforms. I assume though that the non-commercial restrictions don't apply to iClone so whatever, I'm happy. I need $50 more to afford the upgrade though, it would have been helpful if this preorder info came before Black Friday.

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