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CrazyTalk Animator 3 - Great Software - Outdated / Incomplete Manual References

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Each time I openCTA3, I get options ... buy more stuff, training, etc.

And every day, I check to see if more tutorials  have been added. There hasn't even been one added, since I purchased Pipeline.

I would like all the care put into CTA2's tutorials to happen, sooner than later, to CTA3. Please.

I "am" figuring it out on my own, but sheesh ... it's a steep learning curve without help.

Thanks in advance for lighting a fire into the turotial producers,


Keith

PS I'd also like more help with the camera. I loved the camping tutorial and the windmill tutorial that makes it all look 3D, with real dimension, but I can't seem to achieve that effect. I tend to leave the camera alone. And just animate straight on. Then I do my zooming and such in Keynote. It's my temporary fix.
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Hi there,
I'm a complete newbie to this so thought I'd throw a few of my own thoughts into this.  I originally used Crazy Talk and came to 'Animator' from there - this means I'm a newbie/non-techie type person who loved the 'make something very cool with very simple software'.  I'm not an expert, I just have things I want the software to do. It would be really helpful to have an instruction manual that comes at it from the perspective of my type of user.
'How to animate a picture'
'How to make your picture smile etc'
'How to make your picture walk etc'
That approach would really help me.  You might also want to colour co-ordinate the pages.  I bought Standard expecting it to do what I wanted and I had to upgrade to Pro.  I'm now not really sure how I phrase what I want to do (which makes it hard to go through the manual) and I've an awful feeling I need to go to Pipeline now...
I'm sure it's a great product, I just feel I'm not as 'au fait' with the concepts as I should be, especially coming from one who loved the simplicity of Crazy Talk.
Thanks,
Robert

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Thank you very much. I was looking in all the wrong places for a little icon and it's a big glowing tab...  I guess I asked my dumb question for the week, but thanks, as you saved me some frustration, and probably a few other's too.
I went right to it and was immediately able to animate a drawing with free bones and layers. Thanks!
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In composer, F6 will toggle ON/Off Layer manager Tab.

Geoff.




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alright, maybe I'm blind, but where can I find how to open the layer manager. I've looked and looked and read about the great things it can do when making a freebone character for example, but I can't seem to find how to open it. Maybe I'm just too tired, but I seem to be missing it. It's probably under my nose somewhere but I just can't find it.
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Hi..

Thank you for the feedback.

The references to outdated features like SWF export are only found via a search rather than in the general Contents section, but it is understandably confusing to find features mentioned that are no longer available in CTA3. We will certainly try to weed out this outdated information and make it unavailable even with a search.

For the other points you raise our relevant team members will review these and look to improve on them as we move forward.

Thank you again for bringing this to our attention. We do appreciate you taking the time to share your views in a calm, fair and clear way.


                                                                

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While the core engine of the CTA3 is a nice piece of programming - references  / help / examples / how-to is very much lacking and in some instances outdated and/or providing misinformation. For example for CTA3 GUI select help - look for references to FLASH / SWF / export and the "manual" claims it is an available option / feature. In reality, it is not an option. SEE LINK BELOW** . There are other statements and open-ended comments/instructions leading a user in one direction, but again, the solutions are either inaccurate or do not apply to CTA3. Very frustrating. Aspects of the manual, in particular, are out-of-date, incomplete or simply not applicable. NOTE: Many parts of the online help / reference material seems to be directed toward previous version(s) of CTA rather than CTA3. 

**Reallusion link referenced in HELP: http://www.reallusion.com/event/11-crazytalk_flash_animation/application.asp#NOW  OR http://manual.reallusion.com/CrazyTalk_Animator_3/ENU/Pipeline/#Resources/CTA3/11_Export/Exporting_SWF_for_Web.htm?Highlight=background 
OR HERE - This REFERENCED LINK (below) IS NO LONGER VALID OR WORKING... vvv
  • Google Swiffy: All CrazyTalk Animator character motions are kept on the browser; lip-synced animations are ready as well. You may convert SWF files by visiting this page:http://swiffy.googlelabs.com/   <<< LINK IS BROKEN!! This reference is in the CTA3 manual.
The development side of CTA3 is promising but like the manual, missing pieces. Statements like "will be available in an upcoming patch" are vague at best. There is also conflicting information regarding comparing PRO vs PIPELINE with references to features not available NOW - but will be somewhere down the road without a specific timeline or realistic availability date - Examples / teasers are lacking. Unless you have used the previous versions rather extensively, it boils down to trial and error, along with frustration and wasted time. G1 vs G2 vs G3, etc. C'mon... And on top of that what was available in CTA1 vs CTA2 vs CTA3 is equally confusing and poorly documented. (Sorry). There should be better avenues for importing / exporting / saving bones / animation / character features. The Comparison Chart needs a legend  - 'V' 'X' 'O' and 'blank' have different meanings, depending on what section you are looking at. It is very confusing.

The premise is absolutely outstanding. At some level, the software does perform as advertised  - the issue for me as an end-user is the lack of instruction to get from point A to B to C. As mentioned, there are some carrots dangled in front of our noses and I did purchase the CTA3 pipeline version, but as of this post - written reference material, along with some straightforward examples is really lacking. This is not a case of sour grapes, just some constructive criticism. I support the product and I commend the developers on their efforts. A $200+ investment price-point by the developers may not seem unreasonable or out of line, but to the individuals (not commercial houses) it is a substantial amount of money. I'm not suggesting the asking price isn't worthy, I AM suggesting the overall product introduction and function should have been further down the pipeline, prior to its release. Understandably, with the holidays fast approaching, I get the marketing strategy involved - but it doesn't justify putting the burden on the end-user to have to "figure it out", rather than having a clear and concise solution path.

One last point - I support and fully get the 'after market' development of content and such - however with that said - I personally feel, for example, the PIPELINE edition should have been 'stocked' with more selectable options regarding animation and scripts. Not trying to seem greedy, but there seems to be more emphasis on BUNDLE upgrades rather than including some of these additional features in the base product, resulting in a feeling of being a bit put off by that strategy.





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