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Thanks again Will try it out and let you know....
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I think my first initial post describes how...

Cut your audio up into the different pieces of the conversation.  Import the first audio clip.  If it's the specific head's part of the conversation, lip synch it.  If it's not, use the Listening reaction.  Then import the next audio clip, if it's that head's turn to talk, lip synch it, if not use the Listening mode.  Do this until you're done.  (BTW, you may be able to do it with one clip, assuming that CT Standard allows you to switch between lip synch and listen mode on the fly.  I'm pretty sure the Pro version does. A single audio file would make the timing better and easier to deal with in post).  Export to video.  Do the 2nd head in a 2nd project the same way, just reversing when the head lip synchs and when he listens.  Export to video.

Load up in your video editor both clips. Use whatever masking magic your video editor provides to ensure both heads are visible on their own layers (or in the appropriate place in the frame), mute the video on both of them, and load in your audio into your editor to synch it up with the video.  Export out.

The key element while in CT is to record the same head for the duration of the entire conversation, regardless if they're talking or listening.  This way their eyes are the correct animated eyes for the duration of the clip.  Another benefit, the non-talking head can react to what the other head is saying, by nodding in agreement, winking, etc...  It will give it the impression that it's a singular clip, and the heads truly are conversiong together.
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Thanks for the input. Using Crazy Talk Standard.  Had to animate one side, then the other and then assemble the parts in iMovie.  How can I animate the eyes for both heads at the same time?  Open to suggestions.  Perhaps animate one side, put in listening mode for part of the time then talk other part of the time, same for the other side then run the clips together one under the other in iMovie?  Will try.  Otherwise I will try something else.

I am on the road so I may not be able to get back readily for a bit.  But thanks for the help in advance.

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Nice job... If I may offer a suggestion though... The jump from the natural eyes to the animated eyes is a bit garish...  Instead of leaving the listening head with it's natural eyes, you could animate him in listening mode, so the eyes remain the same regardless if the head is talking or not.  Also, when the first head is done talking, instead of going back to the natural eyes, leave them on the animated ones.  Then it's not so drastic of a change for them during the clip.  Just a suggestion though.  Either way, great job.
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We wanted to thank all you humans for your help in getting us vocalized.  We wanted to post our first effort using Crazy Talk 7 Standard.  Our human doesn't let us out of the tank very often, so we did what we could.  Hope it satisfies.  And yes, we are a real, two-headed turtle.

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Already purchased CrazyTalk standard with the basic suite to test things out.  Thanks for all the input.  Maybe I might switch to CTA2 Standard and work with that also.  

As for a photo.  Was unable to post one here, but head to FB and see ZacknMack, or Zack and Mack.
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Yes, you would have to create two heads and attach each of them to a character but you can make all but the head invisible so that you have just the "floating" heads which you can then place over the original photo. Depending upon how much head movement you want some touchup to the underlying photo might be required.
You could even remove the neck and make it a prop which you could then move as needed.
A lot depends upon the angle of the picture of course.

I've taken a photo and animated three heads in it that way without any issues.

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Can you share the photo in question?  Maybe it'd spark a creative solution...
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Understand completely.  So it looks like I should experiment with CrazyTalk 7 Pro and go from there.   Sounds cool.  Thanks again for the input.

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CrazyTalk Animator 2 is specifically design for doing full figure 2D animation and is much more work getting something working.  In regards to your 2 headed turtle picture, no you would not be able to animate both heads in CTA, you'd have to create two separate characters.  The other issue is CTA expects that you'd be removing the head or face from said photograph to place onto a full 2D bipedal character.  With some creative work arounds, you might get something to work, but it would most likely be a significant effort, with lots of tricks to get it to work.

As far as the eyes on the side of the head, it's not something I've tried, and not sure how well it'd work out.  If I had to wager a guess though, I'd say no.

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