I was just informed that I must move the rest of the things out of the room until the rebuilding of the room is completed. I think I will be offline on this computer for a few days.
I guess these things happen so that I will have something to occupy my time between times of fun.
I will still be on the internet ( I think) and I may be using my kindle fire or maybe the old computer from upstairs if I can get things working up there.
At any rate, I will be climbing the walls until this project is finished and I am back here again.
Ken:)

@rgreenidge... Thank you for the compliment.

@Ken... Wow, you have more strange stories of misfortune and trials and tribulation.

When you're done with the book of Ruth, do not film the book of Job.  Do the book of Ken!  :crazy:  I think your life could inspire multiple drama scripts.

Seriously though, I'm glad you're okay, and that your computer didn't get destroyed in the collapse.

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iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity...
Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual  monitors.
Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD

Thanks for the spreadsheet. Now I need to learn how to do one of those.
During the night last night, the ceiling in my computer room fell in. Guess I will have to find somewhere else to work while they are fixing it.
God must be watching over me. If I had been in here, it would have fallen on my head. Now I must worry about the cement that is still up there.
Thanks again.
Ken
PS. I guess I should stop asking about my number of posts. I notice I am back to being a newbie again.:D

I was gone most of today. I will get on the spreadsheet tomorrow. I am using the file numbering system now so I should only need to learn how to work a spreadsheet and use that one.
Thanks a lot. I think organization is maybe more important than making scenes.
Ken:)

Thanks for sharing Vike. I really enjoyed watching your video with the music it was almost like watching a play here.

Home built; ASRock X570 Pro 4, AMD Ryzen 9-5950X CPU, AMD RADEON RX6900XT, 16GB video card, 131GB of RAM.

Referring to the attachment in the previous post in this thread...

Wow, I was skimming over my Pinhead script.  That sure was humbling.  It's not the sort of finished product a person would submit to a movie studio.  It was "for me," and was definitely a "orking script, full of notes and even some discarded ideas.

The main point was that, AFTER WRITING IT, I went back and numbered the scenes and lines.

Anyway, I shared it hoping it might inspire some ideas for people to use and improve upon.  Or maybe it will show you what you want to avoid.  :rolleyes:

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iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity...
Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual  monitors.
Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD

Ken, and anyone else,

I'm attaching a couple files in a ZIP file.  I saved them into a slightly older format so anyone who hasn't upgraded the Microsoft Office lately will still be able to open them.

I split it so I could scroll the top-half and the bottom-half separately.

Column A:

• i = iClone
• S = Studio (my NLE video editor)

Column B:

• X = I finished that work
• I maybe had a differentiation between the "X" and the color coding.  It's been 8 months since I used it, so the details are fading.  I might have indicated if it was rendered and if it was incorporated into my NLE yet.  I know at least once I went through all the work up updating a scene in iClone but forgot to put it in Studio.

Column C:

• The filename
• I told you I do "Save As" a lot.
• Usually I put my "version" letter at the very end.  I experimented with changing that format for a while, putting it nearer the start of the filename, but I think I like it at the very end better.
• The "S" indicates the scene, such as "S6" and "S8"

Column D:

• Notes
• Some are "To Do" notes
• Some are "What was done"
• Sometimes I did a "Save As" to serve and as backup and to be ready for the next editing session

I almost forgot:

• I had multiple Studio files too, one for each scene (more or less)
• Partly because I was having issues with that particular version of Studio, and since I made title overlays for subtitles, there were a lot of items in the project
• That worked pretty well, even though it added another step and another layer to my project complexity
• Each scene has subtitles, voice-overs, sound effects, songs, and stuff like that
• I rendered out each scene from Studio, and then put those renders into a master project
• In my master Studio project, the only thing I had to do other than assembling the scenes in order was to add music if it crossed over from one scene to another (J-cut)

One last thing:

• Some entries in Column C are shaded blue.
• That's because I started making a "new version" of the project
• I still daydream of "finishing" all the work I'd love to do... lighting... ambient sounds... visual effects (like the explosion)... more sound effects (car doors)... and re-do the final scene... stuff like that.  Now with iClone 6 I could use SpeedTree and things like that, too.

As a bonus:

• I really baring all, and including my script, too.
• It's a "working" document that evolved over time, so you'll see everything.
• Pay attention to the watermarks
• The actual script starts on Page 13 (yeah, lots of notes first) and ends on Page 56
• Rule of thumb is 1 page equals 1 minute of movie
• 56-13 = 46 pages
• Video was 44 minutes long (including credits)
• Notice how I numbered all the Scenes and Dialogue Lines.
• I literally have an MP3 file (from Audacity) for each line of dialogue.  I recorded longer sessions, but did sound cleanup, selected my favorite takes, and exported one line at a time.
• Don't know if that was the best way, but it worked for me.  It made it easy to use them in both iClone and in Studio
• Everything after that was a list of songs, with all the lyrics, and some notes.

Lastly:

• I'll embed the video here, in case anyone looking at these notes wants to be able to reference the video.

Hope I didn't scare you.  I'm not saying it's the best way.  It is the first time I've done anything on that scale, and it sort of evolved during the project.

I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this subject.

Have fun.

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iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity...
Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual  monitors.
Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD

Could you send me a copy? Maybe as an attachment on an email?
I need a better system than the three or four notebooks I have now. I am already losing things.
Ken:)

A while ago you asked about file naming conventions.

One thing I didn't mention was on my last (large) product, I actually created a spreadsheet too keep track of my files.

I broke it into two halves (though I'm not sure if that was smart).

Part A - iClone:

• List of iClone scenes (files) - Mostly an one-to-one relationship between file and scene
• List of all revisions
• Great_intro - A
• Great_intro - B
• Great_intro - C
• Listed my top priority items I needed to fix (3 max, usually)
• Great_intro - A... Add the house prop
• Great_intro - B... Make John ring the doorbell, add close-up of doorbell button being pushed
• Great_intro - C... Fix lip sync, add camera cuts when Cindy answers the door
• I also added some "status"
• [X] Have I done the animation fixes listed?
• [X] Have I rendered it yet?

Part B - NLE (editor):

• Similar to the iClone list
• Mostly listed by scene
• A list of "files" (iClone render output, mostly)
• Which version is in my NLE (Great_intro - C)
• A priority "To Do" list
• Add title overlay
• Add doorbell sound effect
• Replaces iClone audio with cleaner speech files
• Some "status" similar to my iClone list

It wasn't perfect, but it helped.  I started doing it about a third of the way through my project.

The best thing, I think, was having one place to collect my prioritized list of what needed to be fixed the most, and if it had been done yet.

Maybe I could upload it in a Zip file if anyone's interested.  It's sort of hard to describe.  I'm not saying it's great, but it might work as inspiration and you can make an improved version of it.

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iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity...
Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual  monitors.
Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD

I was on a roll until I realized a few minutes ago that I had spent the morning making scenes that I already had. I didn't think I had completed the movie that far.
Now I need to regroup and begin in the proper place the next time.
I am moving on from the scenes where just the narrator speaks and to the part where the avatars speak. It is still outdoors so I won't have many problems there as long as no wild animals run across the background. LOL
Ken:)