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I have been using Pinnacle 17 from Corel but they seem to have changed the name or something. They now are selling one called Video Studio Pro X7. I am loading a trial and wondering if it is the same as the Pinnacle or what it is.
Has anyone used this program to finish up their movies?
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KenCoon (12/12/2014)
I have been using Pinnacle 17 from Corel but they seem to have changed the name or something. They now are selling one called Video Studio Pro X7. I am loading a trial and wondering if it is the same as the Pinnacle or what it is.
Has anyone used this program to finish up their movies?
Ken:)


Corel bought it years ago...I just loaded up Video Studio 7 Ultimate... Works fine,easy to use and cheap.. About $39.00 for me as an upgrade (since version 3, I believe). New Blue Effects work especially well with Corel.

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It looks like Pinnacle 17 with a different name and things reversed. Is that pretty much what it is?
they seem to have a 15% off sale going right now.
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KenCoon (12/12/2014)
It looks like Pinnacle 17 with a different name and things reversed. Is that pretty much what it is?
they seem to have a 15% off sale going right now.
Ken:)

Corel purchased Ulead Videostudio, a Consumer NLE Program, continuing to develop it as Corel Videostudio.

Corel recently purchased Avid Studio Prosumer NLE & Pinnacle Studio Consumer Programs from Avid (who purchased Pinnacle Studio from Pinnacle Systems).

Since Corel already had Corel Videostudio Consumer NLE, they scrapped Pinnacle Studio Consumer NLE & renamed Avid Studio to Pinnacle Studio.

That renaming has caused confusion & anger, from day one & still does.

Pinnacle Studio 17 Prosumer Program is an entirely different Program from Corel Videostudio  & the now defunct Pinnacle Studio Consumer line..

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Colour, that sounds like an extremely complicated line of development...:crazy: I'll need a diagram...:unsure:


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animagic (12/12/2014)
Colour, that sounds like an extremely complicated line of development...:crazy: I'll need a diagram...:unsure:

So would possibly several hundred others, Job :ermm:

A nightmare for many & still is. Many have purchased Pinnacle Studio 16, 17 & 18, assuming that they are Upgrades from Pinnacle Studio 15, which became EOL when Corel acquired it from Avid, despite stating that they would continue with it's Development at the time, together with Avid Studio. Corel renamed Avid Studio to Pinnacle Studio, because Avid still sell & Develop Avid Media Composer Professional NLE Program & couldn't use the Avid name.. 

BTW - I've been using Pinnacle Studio for 10 years, with over 10,000 Posts on Corel's acquired Pinnacle Studio Forums.

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Now that I am totally confused with only a little understanding. Don't the two programs basically make video movies? Aren't the programs pretty much the same except that Pinnacle Studio 17 has the screens reversed from the other program? I sort of looks that way to me.
I have Pinnacle17 along side Video Studio on my computer and they look very similar.
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I have Corel Video Studio X6 and X7 - the X7 was supposed to be optimized to work on 64bit machines but even after upgrading to Windows 8.1 I never could get it to work - I have used X6 for a while and am happy with it. - I agree with you the whole Pinnacle Avid Corel thing is a pain. My advice is if you got something that works for you on your machine stay with it - I do agree 4GB Ram is a minimum - good luck
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I've been using both Pinnacle and Ulead (Corel now) since they first came out to make video DVD's, then Blu~Rays. Ulead always had a long free trial, and you got to see what it did before you bought it. Pinnacle on the other hand taught me to never buy a video editing software unless you were giving a free trial. I loved Ulead but when Pinnacle offered 5.1 surround audio authoring which only Sony had and was kind of complicated (using AC3 files) and expensive, I bought the Pinnacle. After I got it, those who had AMD processors when the DVD's were burned the menu screen came out black and it was unusable. If you luckily pushed where you thought the button was, the video did play, and the rendering quality was about the same as Ulead. After 6 month's Oct-Apr; they finally released a patch that worked, but you had to upgrade your video cards. I said I would never buy another video editing program after that without a free trial, and I wont again. I wrote Ulead and asked if they were coming out with a 5.1 audio version, back in October, and they said that it was not in their future. But that next May they did a month after I could finally make a working DVD with Pinnacle. I compared the two and the Ulead made videos seem to look better than the Pinnacle. Plus Pinnacles rendering engine gave you no variable output options, just fixed ones. Now to the Blu~Rays. I bought a HD AVCHD camcorder in late 2007. Videos were gorgeous, until you had to edit them with Pinnacle or Ulead (Corel then). I found out AVCHD's files were MPG-4's, and both these programs converted them to HD MPG-2's. You could see the color difference right away. They both looked horrible, and even the moderators on the Corel site were saying they didn't look all that great. I was desperate and while searching I found Magix 15. Magix gave you the choice of MPG-4 or MPG-2 outputs with up to 5.1 audio, and the ability to manually make adjustments to the output settings. I've since bought their pro version when it dropped down to about $149 for cross-grades. But I have now used the Magix Pro video 15-17; the now versions Movie Edit Pro since 2010. And yes I tried the new trial versions for Corel the last few years, and as far as video reproduction, their rendering engine is terrible. Pinnacle seemed to wait 2 years before they release a free trail. Now with iClone animation with Magix, I get what I see, I don't have a clue what my animations would look like using the latest Corel because I never kept it longer than the free trial, the videos were terrible, using the highest setting and quality. Unacceptable. Just go to Magix, and download the free trial, you'll see what I mean. How did I compare the software? I used a clip of a video scene that were most complex, that on bad render engines would create artifacts at their highest variable rate settings. Even with a fixed video rate at the highest settings, Corel was terrible, and I told them so, and that I'd never come back. I wasn't the only one, but it seemed the didn't care about the video quality, but only how many professional menus layouts you could have. What's also great about Magix, their $399 Video Pro X version is almost the same as their Pro Edit Plus version. I only cross-graded because they had a reasonable sale price, to me it's not really worth the extra money, the Pro Plus 2015 has just about everything it has. I think the other big selling point for me was that with Sony and Magix, if I wanted a scene to cross fade into another, all I had to do is overlap the two videos on the timeline in one step, with the Corel, I had to put a action clip between the two clips and couldn't overlap the two. All Magix programs have a free trial, just don't take my word for it.

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One other note with Magix, I tested a short segment of one of my scenes and rendered it in 3D and burned it with the side by side mode; on a Blu~Ray. It looked good, and I was just curious of how it would look with 3D glasses and my 3D monitors. With Magix you can burn a 3D Blu~Ray, I think Sony wanted $11,000 for their 3D Blu~Ray burning software, and yes Magix can be burned with 5.1 audio. Now I'm pretty sure Corel doesn't have this. The only problem I had, the 3D video at first did not fit fully a 1920 x 1080 and I had to go into iClone 5 and change the pixel output from 100 to 50 or 200; I wrote it down somewhere? Just have one or more re-writable Blu~Ray disc too expeirment with. I Clone 5 has at least 3 3D output modes, that stupid Red/Cyan one for the Red/Cyan glasses, and side to side, and over and under. I tried the first two and side to side is more popular than over and under, but they both will work. With the last ones all you'll need is a 3D monitor with passive or active shutter glasses, (I have 2 LG's in here to work my iClones and my music), and at least one 3D Blu~Ray player, external or internal. I left the 3D focal point at the preset distance.

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