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Long-Form Mocap Extravanganza & Even More Useful Tips!

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How long would it take to animate this scene manually?
Are the precision trade-offs worth the results?

 

NOTE: In this video, I totally forgot about using a REACH TARGET to keep the avatars from "popping" off the ground occassionally.
So there's a bit of popping that I think could be rectified.

Comments welcome!

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hey, this video is much better than the torch-bearer. :exclamationmark:
but independently, whether I like mocap or not ... your Tutorial is fantastic :w00t:
Robert

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Hi and thanks for the tutorial!
Not sure if I will try make some mocap, the twitchiness is a little disturbing.
Wonder if what sw00000p was talking about, something about motion curve cleanup would be possible. Something to smooth the twitchiness.

But very good info, tnx!

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Lukas
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Have yet to use mocap.  Thanks for the showing your results.

sjonesdc :hehe:

STILL LEARNING!!!


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That's pretty cool, Jason! Thanks for posting this.
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Thanks for posting this! I've added it to the Wiki!

Cathy :hehe:

Just click on the graphic to go there.



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 :P Nicely done Jason. It's easy to visualize, with your help, where this will be in a couple of years. I'm still thinking about taking the plunge....but I realllllly want the pipeline.....arrrghhh:crazy:

 Anyway, thumbs up man. :D

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Very nice vid.
But: How long did that take you all together..?
Especially the time of "cleaning up" would be extremly interesting and important.
Further for me personally the scene lookes not extremly "natural". Nearly all characters "hopped" around, very irritating.
So I ask myself, if "standard" moves for idle, reaching, moving and so on could look a bit better. They look more fluid for me.
No matter if you use finished moves ore mocap - you have to edit the moves of each char for your special scene. But f.e. mocap can´t record "idle" moves. It´s just impossible to get "breathing" and similar "small" moves of the body. Additional I can combine nearly every move I want with nearly each other. Basic idle with any typing move, f.e..

Here a very, very primitive and rough test of a "supervisor" in a shop.
Only standard (partly combined) moves, standard idle in the "director mode" and some additional puppeteering made within about 30 minutes:



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Thank you for the demo, moviemaker, but it seems to demonstrate that one cannot sustain a full minute of animation using canned motions. Sooner or later the animation will look robotic or "lack intentionality".

It's a tough call, but I feel that the hopping Kinect characters look ALIVE and they seem to have INTENTIONALITY.

As with any ONE POINT OH technology, perhaps we will see improvements in the future?

I'm going to cross post this next video----

This video has NO MOTION CAPTURE...
okay there is just a wee bit of mocap in one shot.

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The tutorial is far better and more realistic than any other I've seen for Mocap. Unfortunately, I stand by my original statement that one is much better off buying ready made motion packs than spending the $400 for the Mocap plugin and Microsoft Kinect hardware. All you can get with Mocap is a rudimentary shuffle, lean and reach from side to side.




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