Why iClone don't have a better shader effect as MMD(MikuMikuDance) does?

First of all, I love iClone. But we all know there's a big problem about it. The bad rendering result.

Ok, we know it's a sacrifice for realtime animation. But! MMD (MikuMikuDance) has a great solution for keeping realtime and A Much Better Render Result Than iClone!

MMD has a lot of nice shader effects. You drag one onto your model, then the ugly pale figure gets a nice skin and shadow.

Check out this picture:
http://duekko.deviantart.com/art/On-her-way-449778049


I'm no kidding, it's a pure MMD's job, and it's realtime.

Here is a collection for some shader effects' preview:
http://xoriu.deviantart.com/art/MMD-Shader-Preview-Ver-2-with-DL-links-334441668


Following are some videoes of today's MMD:

A nice music video with the same shader effect above:
http://youtu.be/D5S3WrrsPJw


Female face:
http://vimeo.com/75385019


A very nice shader effect:
http://youtu.be/UjJNxUMCz4A


A music video which represent most MMD videoes look like today:
Lamb:
http://youtu.be/bvPlLpH15Uw


All above are pure MMD's work. They don't bake textures, just use those shader effects. And also no AfterEffect involves.
With these shaders and a big scene, MMD still can render fast, even faster than iClone.(But I think iClone is fast enough)

Following is the best shader effect in MMD today, it's free and open source (can be open as text), so everyone can check it out:
GreenerShader:
preview: http://lohas.nicoseiga.jp/thumb/2925983i?

download: http://bowlroll.net/up/dl14878

I really wanna have these effects in iClone. I know iClone has some toon shaders. But let's face it, the results are just not good enough. And what's "enough"? At least, the result can be accepted by audiences.

For now, the rendering result of iClone is too bad that no matter what we do, audiences just don't care.
And if I use iClone as a storyboard tool, producers/investors may think it's too bad and cut project's buget, no one want to take that risk. So I'm stuck with DAZ now, which is a pain.

I'm really looking forward someday iClone can have a better rendering result! I'll pay a lot for it, from my buget of DAZ.


UPDATE
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Somebody asks me to offer a test model and a comparison. So here they are:

This is a comparison with or without shader effect in MMD:
Left: witout shader VS Right: with a shader


I just add a shader to the right one, no more ajustment.
So you can see how shader effect works.

And this is how it looks in iClone with a stardard 3 lights set:




This is how it looks in DAZ with draft rendering setting:

As you can see, the one with a shader in MMD is almost close to DAZ's rendering result. And MMD is in realtime.

And you can download the iAvatar file here for a test:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gs0gdc81cbnvzc8/hzeo_Lukav111-dressB.zip

normally i would debate swoop, but this is one thread that he can pass

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but on the same hand, to keep things balanced ☯

Reallusion could always hold a crowd funding campaign...

which would in turn be good publicity as well

great idea swoop!

if these guys https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1412277313/this-is-war-an-lfg-musical-short?ref=category can make $118,000 over their goal target, reallusion would clean up!

consider that the average upgrade price is at around 150 ( i know..less..but for arguments sake ) - 1,000 iclone users could pay for an advanced upgrade that has perks, such as exclusive content, for purchasing through the kick starter program ....anything above that is new people that didn't know about iclone! so with proper planning, reallusion already hit the $150k mark. Now just announce something revolutionary to 3D and put on a show for the icing on the cake!

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oooh lets all mass debate SW00000p

on topic, I do not know enought about MMD to comment but are those in fact proceedural shaders or baked textures specific to the models?
I know it has a physics engine for example.
I have used MMD but lack of English instructions for everything hindered me geatly, not to mention the complicated copyright rules on some models, yes have english version and tutorials etc as well as the collada dae exporter that one can use to get rigged figures into iclone via Autodesk FBX exporter.

honestly, the shaders he's asking for shouldn't be much - 3D coat has some amazing shaders that look even better - then daz and carrara ....i suppose that in reality with direct-11 it should be expected ..if anything ( providing it doesn't slow down the work flow!!! )

I'm just trying to help RL take over the top dog in 3D position, if for nothing else - just to get swoop to laugh at autodesk and admit that it's old technology.

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sorry saw you said it does not used baked texture
I am actually unsure what you really mean though as I fail to see anything special about those shaders

the shaders of 3d coat, where can I get them or at least further information?

I'm really shocked a plan like this can get almost 140,000 dollars. You just gave us a great idea, I'll think more about it

3D Coat is a modeling software - www.3Dcoat.com - the idea behind using shaders with them, is baking your textures with their shaders and lighting before importing to iclone - or any other software. - this is one way to save resources on your rendering software while having rich realistic textures.

Iclone is great at presenting flat images - meaning, that if you import a prop or character with great quality textures - it will reflect in the render without degrading it. This way iclone is not using up resources for calculating a realistic look in real time.

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The MMD shaders look alright if you are after that look I guess, but I disagree with the assessment of iClone rendering.

Anyway, audiences don't care. They watch movies on phones and love Minecraft animations.

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