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By 3dtester - 6 Years Ago
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I am trying to use 360 images generated from FlowScape as a sky in iClone.
For this test i am using a Dome prop, and applied a 360 image, exported from FlowScape using Ansel.
It is very likely that i'm doing something wrong, because the plants are not really visible.
Maybe the Dome is too small, which i was not able to fix for now, since it is already scaled to the max.
The texture size is 8K (also set at iClone preferences).
So here is a test video:
And here is the 360 image as a reference.
As i said, i must be doing something wrong.
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By Galfridus - 6 Years Ago
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Just did a very quick experiment.
I created a sky and dragged and dropped the image from your post on to it.
I get the plants.
Maybe same technique would work with your hi-res image ???
Geoff.
Edit: Done a further quick experiment.....
Dropped your image into the Image based lighting (in the visual tab)
This opens up several options to tweek including scale via the sky settings.
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By gordryd - 6 Years Ago
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Geoff,
I'm curious whether Zane's shadow appeared on the 'sky' or if you put a shadow-catcher in your scene...
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By Galfridus - 6 Years Ago
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[quote]gordryd (8/6/2019)
Geoff,
I'm curious whether Zane's shadow appeared on the 'sky' or if you put a shadow-catcher in your scene...
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Yes shadow catcher. Always there as part of my default project on start up.
Geoff.
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By 3dtester - 6 Years Ago
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Thanks! I just tried both variants (the Sky and the HDR / iBL slot).
It seems they give similar results :)
But these methods don't provide a 'ground', which the Dome prop does.
So i will add a fake ground plane and make it transparent.
Though, i suppose it wouldn't recieve shadows.
Next step: combining trees and plants etc. in the background with real props in the foreground...
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By 3dtester - 6 Years Ago
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Galfridus (8/6/2019)
Edit: Done a further quick experiment.....
Oh yes, i should have read your post exactly :) Scale is the key. It looks good in your screenshot, even with the lower res image ;)
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By gordryd - 6 Years Ago
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3DTester,
How big was your 360 file from Ansel? When I tried it, the file was 200MB! Compared to iClone sky file sizes ~20MB...
If yours was smaller than 200MB, maybe you can share your Flowscape Ansel export settings?
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By 3dtester - 6 Years Ago
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gordryd (8/6/2019)
3DTester,
How big was your 360 file from Ansel? When I tried it, the file was 200MB! Compared to iClone sky file sizes ~20MB...
If yours was smaller than 200MB, maybe you can share your Flowscape Ansel export settings?
My file is a JPG, 8192x4096px, 7.2MB
I can make a screenshot of the settings later (just shut the rig down...)
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By tripfreak - 6 Years Ago
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I'm not quite sure what kind of Dome prop you used, and what you expect ?
Because the ground plane is flat, the visibility of your plants will always depend on the angle of your camera (as long as you don't use additional bump textures for the Dome prop [never tried that]):
Example with iClorama:
Example with another (free) dome:
More examples in this (german) thread: LINK
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By 3dtester - 6 Years Ago
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Hi tipfreak, i used 'Dans Dome'.
Seems you also used that in your example.
I read the german thread, that's why i tried that prop.
The other methods looked a bit difficult to me.
At first i wanted to try the 'HDRI stage', converted for iClone.
But i couldn't find it anywhere in the thread...
I now did another test where i placed some props in iClone.
I have to say that it largely depends on the camera settings.
The complete scene stops working if the camera position is slightly changed.
@gordryd The file size is actually ~20MB, sorry i confused that.
Here is the screenshot:
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By 3dtester - 6 Years Ago
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This is my last test for now ;)
HDRi / IBL Sky, Camera: 50mm lens
Some iClone plants and flowers. It only work together with the 'Sky' in that specific camera position.
It depends...
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By gordryd - 6 Years Ago
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Is there a way to set the resolution of the sky? Even though I'm bringing in an 8K 360, the picture is very blurry/grainy/dark. It looks fine outside of iClone. I turned off sky blur with no effect.
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By animagic - 6 Years Ago
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gordryd (8/7/2019)
Is there a way to set the resolution of the sky? Even though I'm bringing in an 8K 360, the picture is very blurry/grainy/dark. It looks fine outside of iClone. I turned off sky blur with no effect.
Check if self-illumination is on (it should be default) if it looks dark.
Is render also blurry? Make use that DOF is turned off.
The only other setting I can think of is Max Texture Size under Preferences > Real-time Render Options.
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By 3dtester - 6 Years Ago
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I don't know if it is related, but i always have to uncheck 'Image' at the Sync Sky options, after loading the image.
Otherwise, it looks wrong.
When enabled, the image manipulation options should influence both the sky image and the IBL.
http://manual.reallusion.com/iClone_7/ENU/Pro/Default.htm#iClone_7/Pro_7.0/10_Scene/Atmosphere/Sync_to_Sky.htm?Highlight=Sync%20Sky
Somehow that feature doesn't work for me.
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By 3dtester - 6 Years Ago
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I just realized that there are endless possibilities :laugh:
Most sense to me now makes the usage of the 360 images in the regular IBL slot (Sky image).
Tweaking the scaling and height, it gives nice results.
The ground plane has to be a real prop with a texture and bump map.
Since the FlowScape export image is not HDR, the IBL is not of much use (bad for Iray as well).
So i have to still use additional lights :(
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By tripfreak - 6 Years Ago
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At first i wanted to try the 'HDRI stage', converted for iClone.
But i couldn't find it anywhere in the thread...
Yes, all my dropbox links vanished when they changed the conditions.
Here is a new link, in case you still want to give it a try: LINK
Should be considerably better than the "Dans_Dome".
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By gordryd - 6 Years Ago
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animagic (8/7/2019)
gordryd (8/7/2019)
Is there a way to set the resolution of the sky? Even though I'm bringing in an 8K 360, the picture is very blurry/grainy/dark. It looks fine outside of iClone. I turned off sky blur with no effect.Check if self-illumination is on (it should be default) if it looks dark. Is render also blurry? Make use that DOF is turned off. The only other setting I can think of is Max Texture Size under Preferences > Real-time Render Options.
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By 3dtester - 6 Years Ago
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Thanks tipfreak. The 360Stage works pretty good! I like it :)
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