3DXchange 6 - Release Schedule


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By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
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3DXchange 6 - Coming Soon

3DXchange 6 is nearly ready to be released and we have plenty of exciting features coming for the next generation of our iClone conversion software. Not all new features will be released at once with more being added throughout the coming months in a series of upgrades. We know many of you are eagerly looking forward to 3DXchange 6 and are keen to know when it will be available. So please check out the release schedule below for all the details.

3DXchange 6.1 ("Early Release Version*" - Late May)
Available in three versions, Standard, Pro and Pipeline. This version is compatible with iClone 6 characters and props, allows one click update for iClone 6 and 3Dxchange 6, automatic conversion of Daz Genesis 2 characters, support for Sketchup 2013 - 2015, 3DS Max 2015, Maya 2015, Unity 5 and Unreal 4 and improved object optimization. *Please Note: This is classified as an "Early Release" version as it doesn't yet contain the full features we have planned. We are releasing this early to allow users to edit and export their iClone 6 content without experiencing further delays.

3DXchange 6.2 (3rd Quarter 2015)*
Along with iClone 6.2 we will be releasing the G6 Avatar Creator and full support for the G6 Characters. This will add additional functionality for the new generation of characters including new morph sliders, enhanced lip-sync and all new customization features.

And then later in the year we will have 3DXchange 6.3 featuring silent import and export, GoZ support, a new G6 Developer Pipeline for character creation plus iCloth and more. The new silent import and export feature provides a more efficient workflow allowing import and export directly from within iClone (if no conversion settings need to be edited).

We will be revealing further information about all the new features very soon, but for now this gives you a taster of the exciting things coming to the wonderful world of IClone in 2015. :)

*Please be aware that this release schedule is subject to change.
By mr_vidius - 10 Years Ago
gee wiz.. I'm not surprised by this at all.. let us just milk it all out till next year.. :crazy:
By Galfridus - 10 Years Ago

Thank you Peter.

Although I find the further delays with the G6 character implementation particularly disappointing it has been very useful to have this “provisional”release schedule for 3DX6. I warmly welcome the appearance of these revelatory clefts in RL`s “wall of silence”. It will certainly help to inform my review and revision of forward planning on my remaining 2015 IC projects.

Having given the fledgling IC6 my best efforts over the past 6 months, I had already reluctantly come to the conclusion that I would continue to use IC5 as my main platform for the time being. It has features of efficiency for my methods and purposes, that are not yet fully available if using IC6 exclusively. I appreciate there are more “patches” and upgrades to come and I will enjoy exploring and learning to take full advantage their potential. 

Being kept regularly informed of developments, rather than left in ignorance, gives this customer a much more positive attitude. I shall look forward to the possibility of using a fully featured IC6 –3DX6 combination in 2016.

Geoff.

By Rampa - 10 Years Ago
These upgrades look to be very exciting! Looking forward to next week to see 6.1 :)
By Bigboss - 10 Years Ago
I look forward to being able to develop more Cloths for the G6 Characters... :)
By justaviking - 10 Years Ago
I, too, appreciate you sharing the plans with a tentative schedule.

Of course everyone wants it all, and we'd like to have it now!  I wish the full G6 character support was coming sooner.  Still, setting proper expectations is very helpful, even if not chiseled in stone.

I found your comment about "silent import and export" particularly interesting.  Does that mean we'll be able to do more work directly in the iClone interface, and 3DXchange will be invisible to the user for some functions (like importing some props and stuff like that)?
By mr_vidius - 10 Years Ago
well justaviking.. I will agree with you on that.. would be nice to have it all.. but I'm disappointed with promised features that were claimed
to be in the initial release of IC6. but instead.. we got an "oops".. your going to have to wait till x time to get that... then when x time came.. we
got another "oops". your going to have to wait till the new x time.. if you ask me.. IC6 won't get anywhere near the "exciting new features" till maybe
late next year.. and that is if we are lucky enough not to get another "oops".

they like to milk it, milk it.. they like to milk it, milk it.. they like to milk it, milk it... milk it!

vidius.

By mtakerkart - 10 Years Ago
Thank you Peter!

Cloth creation?....... Very intriguing!!!!!

Can somebody explain me what does that mean : "Silent import export" ??
By Capemedia - 10 Years Ago
Thanks for the update Peter, still not mastered iClone 6 yet, so in no rush.
By Christy0 - 10 Years Ago
Sounding great for the future. I always love getting Xchange to help tweak characters.
By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
justaviking (5/22/2015)

I found your comment about "silent import and export" particularly interesting.  Does that mean we'll be able to do more work directly in the iClone interface, and 3DXchange will be invisible to the user for some functions (like importing some props and stuff like that)?


Yes if you don't need to alter the import/export settings then you can do it all from within iClone. This allows for a more efficient workflow. :)

By duchess110 - 10 Years Ago

All sounds intriguing. Can't wait.
Well done to the developers. :)

By bluemidget666 - 10 Years Ago
Awesome news, GoZ yes yes yes .......
Bring it on.
By Tarampa Studios - 10 Years Ago
Peter (RL) (5/22/2015)
[quote]justaviking (5/22/2015)

...  "silent import and export".... 


Cool, so we'll be able to play our music even louder while we're working.... hahahahahaha
By Rampa - 10 Years Ago
Will the iClone 6.1 update happen at the same time as the 3DX 6.1 update?
By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
rampa (5/23/2015)
Will the iClone 6.1 update happen at the same time as the 3DX 6.1 update?


That's the plan. :)

By Hyperion - 10 Years Ago
Do you know if we purchase 3DXchange 5.5 Pipeline now if we qualify for a free upgrade to version 6.1 of Pipeline?

Thanks for the help.
By SimonWM - 10 Years Ago
Hyperion (5/24/2015)
Do you know if we purchase 3DXchange 5.5 Pipeline now if we qualify for a free upgrade to version 6.1 of Pipeline?

Thanks for the help.

Very interested in the answer to this question as I bought an upgrade to 3DXchange 5.5 Pipeline just a couple months ago.
By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
Hyperion (5/24/2015)
Do you know if we purchase 3DXchange 5.5 Pipeline now if we qualify for a free upgrade to version 6.1 of Pipeline?

Thanks for the help.


We will be making an official announcement about this later in the week, but certainly if you buy 3DXchange 5 now you will receive a free upgrade to 3DXchange 6 when it is released.

By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
SimonWM (5/25/2015)
Hyperion (5/24/2015)
Do you know if we purchase 3DXchange 5.5 Pipeline now if we qualify for a free upgrade to version 6.1 of Pipeline?

Thanks for the help.

Very interested in the answer to this question as I bought an upgrade to 3DXchange 5.5 Pipeline just a couple months ago.


Unfortunately if you purchased 3DXchange 5 a couple of months ago then you won't be entitled to a free upgrade to 3DXchange 6.

However all existing 3DXchange 5 users will be offered a special discounted price to upgrade. :)



By jann - 10 Years Ago
Peter (RL) (5/25/2015)

However all existing 3DXchange 5 users will be offered a special discounted price to upgrade. :)


Is this a special discounted price only for 3DXchange 5 users - or the same discount for all RL customers?
By Cellygon - 10 Years Ago
Great news! I'm Looking forward to this. But what about 3Ds Max Plugins (like what we had with G5 Characters)? And what version of 3DS Max do you guys support for G6 Characters? Because I only have 3Ds Max 2013 and would love to make more cloth for G6 Characters.
By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
jann (5/25/2015)
Peter (RL) (5/25/2015)

However all existing 3DXchange 5 users will be offered a special discounted price to upgrade. :)


Is this a special discounted price only for 3DXchange 5 users - or the same discount for all RL customers?


I know this subject is a particular favourite of yours. :Whistling:

Generally as you know Upgrade pricing and Member pricing is the same thing. However the official announcement regarding pricing has not been released yet. This will be announced in the next couple of days.

By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
Cellygon (5/26/2015)
Great news! I'm Looking forward to this. But what about 3Ds Max Plugins (like what we had with G5 Characters)? And what version of 3DS Max do you guys support for G6 Characters? Because I only have 3Ds Max 2013 and would love to make more cloth for G6 Characters.


Hi Cellygon,

Generally if you are using the pipeline 3DS Max > 3DXchange 6 > iClone 6, then the 2013 version will be fine for iCloth.

However plans for a new 3DS Max plugin are still being evaluated and so I can't say as yet which versions of 3DS Max this will support.
By hattori kun - 10 Years Ago
Hi Peter,

Has the plans changed?

https://forum.reallusion.com/230251/3d-exchange-6-lanch

"We will be releasing an updated 3DXchange that will allow opening and exporting of iClone 6 content (not G6 characters) during the 2nd quarter and this will be FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users.We will then follow this up with a brand new version of 3DXchange 6 that will fully support the G6 characters and add additional functionality. We will have more information about this in due course which should answer all your questions."
By SimonWM - 10 Years Ago
hattori kun (5/26/2015)
Hi Peter,

Has the plans changed?

https://forum.reallusion.com/230251/3d-exchange-6-lanch

"We will be releasing an updated 3DXchange that will allow opening and exporting of iClone 6 content (not G6 characters) during the 2nd quarter and this will be FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users.We will then follow this up with a brand new version of 3DXchange 6 that will fully support the G6 characters and add additional functionality. We will have more information about this in due course which should answer all your questions."


That's the reason I went ahead and upgraded to 3DXchange Pipeline, now I need to pay again after just a month or so since I bought the upgrade; not too happy about this.  I have a support ticket where the service reps tells me about the free upgrade  FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users.

By jann - 10 Years Ago
Peter (RL) (5/26/2015)
jann (5/25/2015)
Peter (RL) (5/25/2015)

However all existing 3DXchange 5 users will be offered a special discounted price to upgrade. :)


Is this a special discounted price only for 3DXchange 5 users - or the same discount for all RL customers?


I know this subject is a particular favourite of yours. :Whistling:

Generally as you know Upgrade pricing and Member pricing is the same thing. However the official announcement regarding pricing has not been released yet. This will be announced in the next couple of days.



Not exactly a favourite - but sadly the topic still seems to be relevant! :ermm:

Anyway; looking forward to 3DXchange 6 upgrade :Whistling: Although version 5 is fairly sufficient for my simple needs, eg the support for newer SketchUp file formats makes my life a lot easier. Good news :)
By aspin - 10 Years Ago

That's the reason I went ahead and upgraded to 3DXchange Pipeline, now I need to pay again after just a month or so since I bought the upgrade; not too happy about this.  I have a support ticket where the service reps tells me about the free upgrade  FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users.


Same here. Because of this I bought Pipeline, convinced the upgrade would be free.
By ckalan1 - 10 Years Ago
It was my understanding that if we purchased 3dxchange pipeline when iclone 6 was released we would get 3dxchange 6 upgrade for free.
By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
and that's why the patch to 3DX5 before 3DX6 would have been the better approach. hehe :)

from past experiences ,  they usually give the free upgrade to the new version only a few weeks before release,  and it's clearly announced on the main page and forum.  I haven't seen that announcement for 3DX5/6 yet.   They did do it for iclone 5 to 6 though,  but 3DX5 is a separate product.


no soup for the autowreck guys,  FBX is  their proprietary format!  pffft!!     The modo, c4d, blender and lightwave developers wouldn't want to be left out of any special features!  any special options should be made available to all developers through 3DX6 via fbx format. no favorites! either that or make a plug in for each software with exact same options so no one is left out!

EDIT -  this doesn't mean that the autowreck guys shouldn't have the advantage of extra info in their fbx that other softwares can't use -  that is fair ground ....but imo the developers already have a ton of work on their plate -  asking for a plug in to cater to 1 software is not appropriate in this scenario,  not when we need bugs fixed,  and tighter animation tools with limited man power. 
By propose - 10 Years Ago
Peter (RL) (5/25/2015)
Hyperion (5/24/2015)
Do you know if we purchase 3DXchange 5.5 Pipeline now if we qualify for a free upgrade to version 6.1 of Pipeline?

Thanks for the help.


We will be making an official announcement about this later in the week, but certainly if you buy 3DXchange 5 now you will receive a free upgrade to 3DXchange 6 when it is released.



By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
hattori kun (5/26/2015)
Hi Peter,

Has the plans changed?

"We will be releasing an updated 3DXchange that will allow opening and exporting of iClone 6 content (not G6 characters) during the 2nd quarter and this will be FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users.We will then follow this up with a brand new version of 3DXchange 6 that will fully support the G6 characters and add additional functionality. We will have more information about this in due course which should answer all your questions."


Originally the plan was to update 3DXchange 5 to allow it to open and export iClone 6 content. This would have been a free update as it would still be 3DXchange 5.

However the plans for updating 3DXchange 5 were shelved and instead we went to straight to 3DXchange 6.1 with added new functionality and more to come in 3DXchange 6.2 and 6.3 (which will be free to 3DX6 users).

To the best of my knowledge we have never posted that 3DXchange 6 itself would be free. Major upgrades to a new version number such as iClone 5 > 6, CTA 1 > 2 and so on have always been paid upgrades.


By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
aspin (5/26/2015)

That's the reason I went ahead and upgraded to 3DXchange Pipeline, now I need to pay again after just a month or so since I bought the upgrade; not too happy about this.  I have a support ticket where the service reps tells me about the free upgrade  FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users.


Same here. Because of this I bought Pipeline, convinced the upgrade would be free.


Please see my reply above to Hattori about this.

However if you have been specifically told that 3DXchange 6 would be free, please supply a copy of the communication where this is stated and send to Customer Support using the link below. They will check this for you. Also do contact Customer Support if you have purchased 3DXchange 5 within 30 days of the release of 3DXchange 6.1 as this is the normal time limit for a free upgrade. Thanks.

http://www.reallusion.com/CustomerSupport/UserEx/QForm.aspx

By ckalan1 - 10 Years Ago
Here is the problem. We were specifically told that: 
"We will be releasing an updated 3DXchange that will allow opening and exporting of iClone 6 content (not G6 characters) during the 2nd quarter and this will be FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users.We will then follow this up with a brand new version of 3DXchange 6 that will fully support the G6 characters and add additional functionality"

But now Reallusion is saying that customers will not be getting the free update "that will allow opening and exporting of iClone 6 content". 

I purchased 3dxchange to import and export Daz Genesis 2 characters. I am not interested in exporting G6 characters. The fact that Reallusion stated that 3DXchange would "during the 2nd quarter" have the capability to open and export  iClone6 via 3DXchange goes contrary to what you stated in the latest post about this issue.

Reallusion seems to be saying that they are not going to release an updated version of 3Dxchange that makes it possible to do work in iClone 6. This will not be a free updated version of 3DXchange 5 like they originally promised the customers. Now, if I understand this correctly, the customers who thought this capability was going to be a free update, will have to purchase an upgrade to 3DXchange 6 in order to export from iClone 6. 

So, when I purchased 3DXchange 5.5 and was told that in the near future 3Dxchange would be iClone 6 compatible turned out to be incorrect. Apparently Reallusion had a change of plans and decided to go straight to 3Dxchange 6. Does this mean I will not have capability of exporting from iClone 6 via 3Dxchange unless I purchase an upgrade to 3Dxchange 6?

It was my understanding that the 3DXchange I purchased in conjuntion with iClone 6 would be updated to give it the capability to export from iClone 6.  Reallusion sold us that capability when we purchased the software. 

I believe in all fairness, those who purchased iClone 6 and 3DXchange should be given a free upgrade. 


  
By hattori kun - 10 Years Ago
Peter (RL) (5/27/2015)
hattori kun (5/26/2015)
Hi Peter,

Has the plans changed?

"We will be releasing an updated 3DXchange that will allow opening and exporting of iClone 6 content (not G6 characters) during the 2nd quarter and this will be FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users.We will then follow this up with a brand new version of 3DXchange 6 that will fully support the G6 characters and add additional functionality. We will have more information about this in due course which should answer all your questions."


Originally the plan was to update 3DXchange 5 to allow it to open and export iClone 6 content. This would have been a free update as it would still be 3DXchange 5.

However the plans for updating 3DXchange 5 were shelved and instead we went to straight to 3DXchange 6.1 with added new functionality and more to come in 3DXchange 6.2 and 6.3 (which will be free to 3DX6 users).

To the best of my knowledge we have never posted that 3DXchange 6 itself would be free. Major upgrades to a new version number such as iClone 5 > 6, CTA 1 > 2 and so on have always been paid upgrades.





Thanks Peter.
I hope 3dx 6 can export dynamic cloth, etc. This will be a major feature for me to buy the upgrade.
I assume if you can get the export of dynamic cloth solved via pointcache, etc, you will also be able to address the issue of Indigo renderer exporting each mesh per frame that tends to get really heavy on hdd space.
By jimmy duck - 10 Years Ago
how about the product we've got from daz3d.com,http://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=iclone,could we update it as the product that we've bought from reallusion.com
By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
ckalan1 (5/27/2015)
Here is the problem. We were specifically told that: 
"We will be releasing an updated 3DXchange that will allow opening and exporting of iClone 6 content (not G6 characters) during the 2nd quarter and this will be FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users.We will then follow this up with a brand new version of 3DXchange 6 that will fully support the G6 characters and add additional functionality"

But now Reallusion is saying that customers will not be getting the free update "that will allow opening and exporting of iClone 6 content". 

I purchased 3dxchange to import and export Daz Genesis 2 characters. I am not interested in exporting G6 characters. The fact that Reallusion stated that 3DXchange would "during the 2nd quarter" have the capability to open and export  iClone6 via 3DXchange goes contrary to what you stated in the latest post about this issue.

Reallusion seems to be saying that they are not going to release an updated version of 3Dxchange that makes it possible to do work in iClone 6. This will not be a free updated version of 3DXchange 5 like they originally promised the customers. Now, if I understand this correctly, the customers who thought this capability was going to be a free update, will have to purchase an upgrade to 3DXchange 6 in order to export from iClone 6. 

So, when I purchased 3DXchange 5.5 and was told that in the near future 3Dxchange would be iClone 6 compatible turned out to be incorrect. Apparently Reallusion had a change of plans and decided to go straight to 3Dxchange 6. Does this mean I will not have capability of exporting from iClone 6 via 3Dxchange unless I purchase an upgrade to 3Dxchange 6?

It was my understanding that the 3DXchange I purchased in conjuntion with iClone 6 would be updated to give it the capability to export from iClone 6.  Reallusion sold us that capability when we purchased the software. 

I believe in all fairness, those who purchased iClone 6 and 3DXchange should be given a free upgrade. 


Thanks for your feedback. We do appreciate your concerns.

Normally we only offer free upgrades for users who purchased within 30 days of a new release. However due to the changes we made to the upgrade plans for 3DXchange, we will be offering a free upgrade to 3DXchange 6 for anyone who purchased 3DXchange 5 since the upgrade plans were revealed on the forum or for customers who were were told by Support. In the case of the forum this was posted on the 27th March. So if you purchased after that time, you will be notified by email after the release of 3DXchange 6 with your download link and new serial number.

If you have any concerns about this, or you are unsure if you have qualified for a free upgrade, please PM me with your account email address or contact Custom Support and we will let you know. :)


By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
jimmy duck (5/28/2015)
how about the product we've got from daz3d.com,http://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=iclone,could we update it as the product that we've bought from reallusion.com


Yes if you purchased from Daz3D and have registered your serial number in your Reallusion account, you will be entitled to the same upgrade options. Just check in your Member Account under "Upgrade & Member Special" after 3DXchange 6 has been released.

By nat woi - 10 Years Ago
well its pretty far into may now
By mrmdesign - 10 Years Ago
3DXchange 6 has arrived!
I am a tiny little disappointed that I do not get a little bit more of a discount as a previous 3DX5 Pipeline owner.
$179 is not bad for the improvements it brings but the fact that everyone gets the same price whether they have bought the previous version or not seems a little bit off.

Had I bought 3DX5 pipeline yesterday for $149 instead of $299 back in 2013 I could have saved myself a lot of moolah. Oh well, I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles and Reallusions awesome tools are well worth the asking price. You do look after us in other ways. :-)

By SimonWM - 10 Years Ago
I have to report that Reallusion did good on their promise and as a purchaser of 3DXchange Pipeline 5 from a bit over a month I received the free upgrade.  Very satisfied customer.  I'm only worried that the version I downloaded and installed is 6.1.0528 but it says that the official release version is 6.1.1728  and then it says "You have the latest version installed.  I check in my account and there is no patch to 6.1.1728 just a download so should I install 6.1.1728 on top of 6.1.0528?  Will it work that way?
By Agonos - 10 Years Ago
I just bought "3dxchange 6 pro" and I still do not see the opportunity to change the face of ic6 avatars. Maybe I become blind ? Or we still have to waitHonestly, at first glance it looks more like a major update 3dxchange5 :(
Personally, not being able to change the appearance of avatars heavily slows my creation.
By duchess110 - 10 Years Ago
SimonWM (5/29/2015)
I have to report that Reallusion did good on their promise and as a purchaser of 3DXchange Pipeline 5 from a bit over a month I received the free upgrade.  Very satisfied customer.  I'm only worried that the version I downloaded and installed is 6.1.0528 but it says that the official release version is 6.1.1728  and then it says "You have the latest version installed.  I check in my account and there is no patch to 6.1.1728 just a download so should I install 6.1.1728 on top of 6.1.0528?  Will it work that way?


Hi SimonWM
I see that there is an update patch 6.1.1728 for iClone. So perhaps you need to update iClone also to work with the new 3DXchange6.
By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
woot,  I can't wait to see the new Toys!!!  I've been excited about this,  now I can make IC6 my main and transfer my IC5 stuff over!!  :D :D :D


RL has always done good on their word,   we just have to consider the amount of work they take on,  the challenges they face in todays ever changing industry -  so much has changed in the last 3 years alone that I couldn't even begin to imagine what they go through to keep up with everything as a business.  Thats a lot of code and research for a small team!!   We have to help them and do our part with pointing out bugs with good reports.  The more we help them handle the challenges they face,  the more they help us with great tools.  

By vidi - 10 Years Ago
Honestly, at first glance it looks more like a major update 3dxchange5


A Look of the currently feature list , I think that is the case , I'm wondering why this update is not free as promised :doze:

We will be releasing an updated 3DXchange that will allow opening and exporting of iClone 6 content (not G6 characters) during the 2nd quarter and this will be FREE to existing iClone 6 + 3DXchange 5 users..
By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
my guess is that their development tools got upgraded .....and any changes they had to do would have had to have been done with their old development tools for 3DX5 thus backtracking on work -  when they could move forward with the new tools on 3DX6.  

If you think about it on the marketing point,  they actually took a bigger financial hit on this because they are honoring the new users who purchased IC6 recently  -  had they written the patch.....there would have been less free copies of 3DX6 issued.  We have a lot of new users on the forum,  that's a lot of free copies.
By SimonWM - 10 Years Ago
duchess110 (5/29/2015)
SimonWM (5/29/2015)
I have to report that Reallusion did good on their promise and as a purchaser of 3DXchange Pipeline 5 from a bit over a month I received the free upgrade.  Very satisfied customer.  I'm only worried that the version I downloaded and installed is 6.1.0528 but it says that the official release version is 6.1.1728  and then it says "You have the latest version installed.  I check in my account and there is no patch to 6.1.1728 just a download so should I install 6.1.1728 on top of 6.1.0528?  Will it work that way?


Hi SimonWM
I see that there is an update patch 6.1.1728 for iClone. So perhaps you need to update iClone also to work with the new 3DXchange6.

I did patch Iclone 6 to the latest version.  The 3DXchange 6 installer won't let you install if you don't upgdate Iclone 6 first.  so, no that's not it.  I wonder if both 3DXChange versions are the same cause  6.1.0528 and 6.1.1728 have the same installer file names with the same file size.  Maybe they change the version number to match Iclone 6.
By prabhatM - 10 Years Ago
planetstardragon (5/29/2015)

we just have to consider the amount of work they take on,  the challenges they face in todays ever changing industry -  so much has changed in the last 3 years alone that I couldn't even begin to imagine what they go through to keep up with everything as a business.  Thats a lot of code and research for a small team!!   We have to help them and do our part with pointing out bugs with good reports.  The more we help them handle the challenges they face,  the more they help us with great tools.  



This is not empathy....this is sympathy. 
Professionals dont look for sympathy. It's ridiculous. 

RL is in business because it can deliver.  Encourage, but please don't make them appear as dumb hard working people.

By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
lol,  don't go there,  what looks dumb is complaining about a software you don't own and you don't even make much art haha

keep it real Prabbhat.  -  the truth is as the 3D industry goes more mainstream,  there will be a tremendous amount of challenges between dx 12, windows 10, upgrades, updates, patches - and people giving software away for practically free in abundance.    You always try to make things sound like they are easy for you to do,  but I've yet to see something you've accomplished that demands authority on your comments.     I'm busting my kittens building my company in a challenging industry that already went through what they are going through now ....it's not easy at all.     You should get modo ,  it's a perfect and affordable companion to iclone that will help you spend more time working than complaining :p 

It's not sympathy nor empathy,  its understanding what we have,  what we are up against and things we can do to make it better for everyone. 
By prabhatM - 10 Years Ago
planetstardragon (5/29/2015)
lol,  don't go there,  what looks dumb is complaining about a software you don't own and you don't even make much art haha

keep it real Prabbhat.  -  the truth is as the 3D industry goes more mainstream,  there will be a tremendous amount of challenges between dx 12, windows 10, upgrades, updates, patches - and people giving software away for practically free in abundance.    You always try to make things sound like they are easy for you to do,  but I've yet to see something you've accomplished that demands authority on your comments.     I'm busting my kittens building my company in a challenging industry that already went through what they are going through now ....it's not easy at all.     You should get modo ,  it's a perfect and affordable companion to iclone that will help you spend more time working than complaining :p 

It's not sympathy nor empathy,  its understanding what we have,  what we are up against and things we can do to make it better for everyone. 



Check my evaluation comments when ivlone 5.5 was released. Then check when indigo was yet to be released.



After months what you have started talking about or forced to talk about the issues with iclone, I documented clearly without any malice long before.
You dont have thd training in certain areas. Particularly investing in unknown assets and developing products. Or, competitive evaluation. That is why you can not see the issues beforehand. Critical evaluation comes naturally to us. And we do that without any malice or pussyfooting.

Your defence of RL actually is a  big PR disaster. I was glad Peter snd Soyasu took over quickly during the iclone 6 launch after the initial hesitation. If you have the time and inclination, please go back and check how beautifully Soyasu handled the crowd after your so called war against the people who were disheartened with iclone 6's initial avatar.

Sometimes I wonder why only you have to project the RL team as a poor , helpless, hardworking team? I think they are a smart bunch. They mess up with the priorities sometimes. That they can fix without any of your public sympathy. 

This is a simple business. And there are technical issues which need to be set right. Nothing more than that.

Take your paragraph and show to any PR consultant. He will tell you your defence of the company actually shows the company in poor light.

I just fail to understand why you can not figure that out!

When I tell you all this, it's not to show you down. I genuinely feel so.


By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
lol -   do we have to go back to the show me YOUR work routine ?   

PR disaster ?  the forum has been the most friendly and supportive it's ever been in years, and we have more new friendly faces than ever. 

That's something you can actually see.   You are a lot of type.    95.8743% of statistics are made up on the spot,  your arguments are full of statistics.


which btw,  I'd be happy to show you all the things I've managed to achieve because of RL's great support,  but I'm not here to brag,  I'm here to help and learn - but they have in fact help me into a new career because of their work.....I did have to work hard at it though...not sit around and complain all day.
By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
and being that you are trying to label me as a PR disaster,  when you have absolutely no credentials to back you up....let me at least post this - an seo / marketing specialist company that only knows me from twitter -  not music or video ....so it is with great confidence that I show you -the hand-

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/teranoxghost/experimental/twitter%201_zpsgvkf7x0e.png
By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
SimonWM (5/29/2015)
I have to report that Reallusion did good on their promise and as a purchaser of 3DXchange Pipeline 5 from a bit over a month I received the free upgrade.  Very satisfied customer.  I'm only worried that the version I downloaded and installed is 6.1.0528 but it says that the official release version is 6.1.1728  and then it says "You have the latest version installed.  I check in my account and there is no patch to 6.1.1728 just a download so should I install 6.1.1728 on top of 6.1.0528?  Will it work that way?


Hi Simon,

There is an issue with the wrong build number being displayed on some web pages. If you have version 6.1.0528 then you have the latest version available for download now.

If another update to the build version is made I will let you all know. :)


By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
Agonos (5/29/2015)
I just bought "3dxchange 6 pro" and I still do not see the opportunity to change the face of ic6 avatars. Maybe I become blind ? Or we still have to waitHonestly, at first glance it looks more like a major update 3dxchange5 :(
Personally, not being able to change the appearance of avatars heavily slows my creation.


Hi Agonos,

As explained in my original post, the G6 Avatar Creator is coming in the 3rd quarter when we release the 6.2 update.
By SimonWM - 10 Years Ago
Peter (RL) (5/29/2015)
SimonWM (5/29/2015)
I have to report that Reallusion did good on their promise and as a purchaser of 3DXchange Pipeline 5 from a bit over a month I received the free upgrade.  Very satisfied customer.  I'm only worried that the version I downloaded and installed is 6.1.0528 but it says that the official release version is 6.1.1728  and then it says "You have the latest version installed.  I check in my account and there is no patch to 6.1.1728 just a download so should I install 6.1.1728 on top of 6.1.0528?  Will it work that way?


Hi Simon,

There is an issue with the wrong build number being displayed on some web pages. If you have version 6.1.0528 then you have the latest version available for download now.

If another update to the build version is made I will let you all know. :)

Great!  I have the latest version then.  Thanks.




By TimV - 10 Years Ago
Hi:

Just wondering how big the files are and if my machine is still processing properly.

I had a pop up window to tell me about the update, and I just clicked.  I have a Reallusion LiveUpdate window open that says "Updating: iClone 6.1 Patch"

The green bar makes it to the right edge and then restarts back at the left side, but part way in.  Are these different items / sections, or is it failing and restarting where it left off?  It's been doing this for 10 to 15 minutes so I don't know if it is progressing or not.

Thanks

Tim
By Peter (RL) - 10 Years Ago
TimV (5/29/2015)
Hi:

Just wondering how big the files are and if my machine is still processing properly.

I had a pop up window to tell me about the update, and I just clicked.  I have a Reallusion LiveUpdate window open that says "Updating: iClone 6.1 Patch"

The green bar makes it to the right edge and then restarts back at the left side, but part way in.  Are these different items / sections, or is it failing and restarting where it left off?  It's been doing this for 10 to 15 minutes so I don't know if it is progressing or not.

Thanks

Tim


If you are having problems downloading using LiveUpdate, just pop into iClone 6 and select  Help > Check For Update. There you can download the update manually.
By hattori kun - 10 Years Ago
Also it would be REALLY great if we can export cameras from Iclone 6 with 3dx 6.
I've been dealing with a lot of camera matching  from Iclone to an external app and this could easily be done with fbx export.
By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
hattori,  can you use a prop to drive the camera,  then export the animated prop to drive the 3rd party software the same way ?
By vidi - 10 Years Ago
@hattori kun
Do the new version now export cloth and hair ?
I have still not updated  but I'm interested if this works.
By moviechick - 10 Years Ago
I'm curious.. one of the bundles is 3DX  +  Mocap, have there been any changes in the Mocap or is it the same as the one I already have?
By hattori kun - 10 Years Ago
planetstardragon (5/30/2015)
hattori,  can you use a prop to drive the camera,  then export the animated prop to drive the 3rd party software the same way ?


I''m using a box prop right now. Too many steps and if the camera has animated zoom, etc its hard to match outside of Iclone.

vidi (5/30/2015)
@hattori kun
Do the new version now export cloth and hair ?
I have still not updated  but I'm interested if this works.


I haven't upgraded vidi and waiting for support if I'm eligible. I refunded 3dxpro and changed it to 3dx pipeline recently.
It doesn't say in the roadmap if it will export phsyx items.  It should be possible since iclone indigo exporter supports physx items. They could use the same code to export to something other than the indigo renderer.
By Agonos - 10 Years Ago
Peter (RL) (5/29/2015)
Agonos (5/29/2015)
I just bought "3dxchange 6 pro" and I still do not see the opportunity to change the face of ic6 avatars. Maybe I become blind ? Or we still have to waitHonestly, at first glance it looks more like a major update 3dxchange5 :(
Personally, not being able to change the appearance of avatars heavily slows my creation.


Hi Agonos,

As explained in my original post, the G6 Avatar Creator is coming in the 3rd quarter when we release the 6.2 update.


I know but I find it unusual that such an important function is not established from the start. Already I hoped to find in "iClone 6". I wanted to say.

By prabhatM - 10 Years Ago
hattori kun (5/30/2015)
planetstardragon (5/30/2015)
hattori,  can you use a prop to drive the camera,  then export the animated prop to drive the 3rd party software the same way ?


I''m using a box prop right now. Too many steps and if the camera has animated zoom, etc its hard to match outside of Iclone.

vidi (5/30/2015)
@hattori kun
Do the new version now export cloth and hair ?
I have still not updated  but I'm interested if this works.


I haven't upgraded vidi and waiting for support if I'm eligible. I refunded 3dxpro and changed it to 3dx pipeline recently.
It doesn't say in the roadmap if it will export phsyx items.  It should be possible since iclone indigo exporter supports physx items. They could use the same code to export to something other than the indigo renderer.



Mocha kind of tracking software does not help ?
By hattori kun - 10 Years Ago
prabhatM (5/30/2015)
hattori kun (5/30/2015)
planetstardragon (5/30/2015)
hattori,  can you use a prop to drive the camera,  then export the animated prop to drive the 3rd party software the same way ?


I''m using a box prop right now. Too many steps and if the camera has animated zoom, etc its hard to match outside of Iclone.

vidi (5/30/2015)
@hattori kun
Do the new version now export cloth and hair ?
I have still not updated  but I'm interested if this works.


I haven't upgraded vidi and waiting for support if I'm eligible. I refunded 3dxpro and changed it to 3dx pipeline recently.
It doesn't say in the roadmap if it will export phsyx items.  It should be possible since iclone indigo exporter supports physx items. They could use the same code to export to something other than the indigo renderer.



Mocha kind of tracking software does not help ?



That's more work than the box method.

Didn't know 6.1 is out.
http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/iclone_upgrade.aspx
  • Added: Direct launch 3DXchange 6 to edit Character/Props from iClone 6.
  • Added: Direct add Motion/MotionPlus to 3DXchange 6.

Does that mean 3dx 6 early access can export characters with animation to fbx right now?



By SimonWM - 10 Years Ago
I'm sending my project to 3DXChange Pipeline from Iclone 6 Pro using the "Edit in 3DXchane" button but only the character is coming thru, no animation is transferred, only the character in a T-Pose.
By Rampa - 10 Years Ago
SimonWM (6/17/2015)
I'm sending my project to 3DXChange Pipeline from Iclone 6 Pro using the "Edit in 3DXchane" button but only the character is coming thru, no animation is transferred, only the character in a T-Pose.


You need to send the motion separately. It's pretty easy though. Use the "Collect Clip" track for your actor. Drag a region encompassing the motion you want captured. It will be blue. Now, left-click on the region and save the motion (or motionplus) to 3DX. You would use motion plus if the avatars motions relies on constraints (path, reach)or has facial motion motion. Motionplus "bundles" all the types of motion together, except for physics.
By VirtualMedia - 10 Years Ago
Peter (RL) (5/22/2015)
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/36af1569-dc52-4c57-b112-36c9.jpg

3DXchange 6.2 (3rd Quarter 2015)*
Along with iClone 6.2 we will be releasing the G6 Avatar Creator and full support for the G6 Characters. This will add additional functionality for the new generation of characters including new morph sliders, enhanced lip-sync and all new customization features.

And then later in the year we will have 3DXchange 6.3 featuring silent import and export, GoZ support, a new G6 Developer Pipeline for character creation plus iCloth and more. The new silent import and export feature provides a more efficient workflow allowing import and export directly from within iClone (if no conversion settings need to be edited).

We will be revealing further information about all the new features very soon, but for now this gives you a taster of the exciting things coming to the wonderful world of IClone in 2015. :)

*Please be aware that this release schedule is subject to change.


Please tell us that the 3rd quarter update will allow us to improve lips sync of all characters / Daz imports, not just G6 characters.

By mr_vidius - 10 Years Ago
VirtualMedia (7/10/2015)
Peter (RL) (5/22/2015)
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/36af1569-dc52-4c57-b112-36c9.jpg

3DXchange 6.2 (3rd Quarter 2015)*
Along with iClone 6.2 we will be releasing the G6 Avatar Creator and full support for the G6 Characters. This will add additional functionality for the new generation of characters including new morph sliders, enhanced lip-sync and all new customization features.

And then later in the year we will have 3DXchange 6.3 featuring silent import and export, GoZ support, a new G6 Developer Pipeline for character creation plus iCloth and more. The new silent import and export feature provides a more efficient workflow allowing import and export directly from within iClone (if no conversion settings need to be edited).

We will be revealing further information about all the new features very soon, but for now this gives you a taster of the exciting things coming to the wonderful world of IClone in 2015. :)

*Please be aware that this release schedule is subject to change.


Please tell us that the 3rd quarter update will allow us to improve lips sync of all characters / Daz imports, not just G6 characters.



Question.. maybe this was answered somewhere along the line. and I somehow missed it. but. the avatar creator thingy that is supposed to be released in the 6.2 . will this be something that is strictly a 3Dexchange thing. or is this something one can do in iclone 6? will I be required to buy 3Dexchange version 6 to use that feature?

By julesd - 10 Years Ago
Just wondering if the pipeline exports will have all the baked animations, such as cloth, hair and facial?
By Galfridus - 10 Years Ago
Peter (RL) (5/22/2015)
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/36af1569-dc52-4c57-b112-36c9.jpg


And then later in the year we will have 3DXchange 6.3 featuring silent import and export, GoZ support, a new G6 Developer Pipeline for character creation plus iCloth and more. The new silent import and export feature provides a more efficient workflow allowing import and export directly from within iClone (if no conversion settings need to be edited).



We now know from Peter(RL) posting in this thread
https://forum.reallusion.com/263344/GoZ-update-4th-quarter
that "silent import and export, GoZ support" has been cancelled.
Is there any better news regarding the "new G6 Developer Pipeline for character creation plus iCloth and more" for the end of the year or are IC6 / 3DX6 customers in for further disappointments?

Geoff.