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Guidelines for Mature Content in the Marketplace (2019) - UPDATED

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Guidelines for Mature Content in the Marketplace (2019) - UPDATED

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Agreed, Animagic: violence is the truest obscenity. 

Buckels et al. note that most conceptions of sadism occur in connection with criminal behavior or sexual fetishes, although the truth appears to be that “apparently normal, everyday people” also engage in acts of cruelty. They provide examples as including the popularity of cruelty as expressed in video games, brutal sports, and violent films. '

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202011/why-normal-people-intentionally-hurt-others


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Hello, I am looking for somebody who can make realistic female genitalia that has morphs for the basic CC3+ Reallusion female character, in blender or ZBrush, but the problem is, that I should be able to add it back to the Character creator for dressing her, add make up etc. Then I should be able to export this character to Unity, for building the game. I was trying to add genitals from DAZ as accessories, but they are not working in Unity, they dance separately from character, if I add them as cloth they are stretching and do not look like genitals. So, they should be a part of the character body. I was trying for 3 weeks to make nice genitals, but unfortunately my skills in ZBrush or blender are not enough. I really need solution for body with realistic genitalia that has morphs. I hope that will find somebody here
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I'm making some lingerie, does this have to marked as restricted content? And one style has an open bra area so the bottom half of the breast is showing but the nipples are covered. Is a photo like this OK to post as a thumbnail and marketing photos/video?  I can post a photo here of just the cloth without the character as an example.    I would really like to showcase the photos with a character to really show what this looks like though.   Please let me know if this A: needs to be restricted or    B: If not, would it be OK to have the character wear this in the marketing photos.   Thanks to anyone who can answer this! 

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Hi Dorothy

I already replied to your PM about this but to reiterate I don't see any problem with a character wearing this in your promotional material. Problems are only likely to occur if the promotional images show nudity or if the character is posed in an overtly sexualized way.  :)



Thanks! I did get your PM but added it here to just in case anyone else had a similar question.  😀





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Dorothy Jean (2/28/2020)
I'm making some lingerie, does this have to marked as restricted content? And one style has an open bra area so the bottom half of the breast is showing but the nipples are covered. Is a photo like this OK to post as a thumbnail and marketing photos/video?  I can post a photo here of just the cloth without the character as an example.    I would really like to showcase the photos with a character to really show what this looks like though.   Please let me know if this A: needs to be restricted or    B: If not, would it be OK to have the character wear this in the marketing photos.   Thanks to anyone who can answer this! 

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Hi Dorothy

I already replied to your PM about this but to reiterate I don't see any problem with a character wearing this in your promotional material. Problems are only likely to occur if the promotional images show nudity or if the character is posed in an overtly sexualized way.  :)


                                                                

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The users only complain about mirrors, Indigo, and Dynamic Appearance Editor.  


If only that were true. :Whistling:


This is the thing that makes me doubt the complaint logic.
Let's assume response is given to complaints:
FUNCTION A: 1 compliant A = 1 action taken to address complaint A

So users complain about adult themed content, and so policy is set up to address those complaints.
FUNCTION A: 1 compliant against adult themed content = 1 action taken to address adult themed content

But then we have users, even in this thread alone, complaining in the other direction
So I will apply the same logic
FUNCTION A: 1 complaint against restrictive guidelines = 1 action take to address against restrictive guideline

But this did not happen here...so I don't think complaints drive this, otherwise counter-complaints would be addressed equally.  It more looks like an inside business decision to do this.    
But I get it, Unreal marketplace is loaded with FPS content, and not much in the realm of adult.
I don't even really care myself, I care more about future developments and releases with CC3.  But it does come off unbalanced and unfair, and almost quite dismissive of the developers here. 
I guess to them I say don't blame RL, blame Fortnite.
Because you can best believe if Fortnite was an adult themed game played by adults the developers in this thread would be highlighted as Spotlight Developers.
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I support this question! I also have open underwear with undressing animation both by the heroine herself and when the partner removes the underwear from the heroine. What criteria are used in this case?
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I'm making some lingerie, does this have to marked as restricted content? And one style has an open bra area so the bottom half of the breast is showing but the nipples are covered. Is a photo like this OK to post as a thumbnail and marketing photos/video?  I can post a photo here of just the cloth without the character as an example.    I would really like to showcase the photos with a character to really show what this looks like though.   Please let me know if this A: needs to be restricted or    B: If not, would it be OK to have the character wear this in the marketing photos.   Thanks to anyone who can answer this! 

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TonyDPrime (2/27/2020)

The users only complain about mirrors, Indigo, and Dynamic Appearance Editor.  


If only that were true. :Whistling:


                                                                

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I think this whole issue is just silly as it seems to be aimed at a particular aspect of human behavior. What has struck me over the years is that it seems to be OK to sell products that promote violence. I think there is an inconsistency here. If you want to be goody two shoes, be so across the board. Of course, such a stand would have serious repercussions of selling to the gaming community, so it would not be in the best commercial interest of RL. 

Ah well, why do I even bother?...:unsure:



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Peter (RL) (5/1/2019)

5. Motion clips that depict sexual acts are also strictly prohibited.  Vendor may sell motion clips that include romantic or affectionate animations but sexual acts are a complete no-no and will be removed immediately.


You know, after actually reading this, RL is actually pretty fair with what is being allowed.  And, theoretically, you could have, without actually posting a literal link, a description to a link to an outside website and just show images there instead.
BUT my eyes noticed this one above, #5....this did not come from any complaint.  The term "no-no" is totally an inside person voicing their own descriptive take.  

You know, the problem with all this is it unintentionally presents the question of product-line viability. 
Because one could buy any range of products, only to have them banned and made incompatible because at any point an outside force may enter the equation and deems it to be discontinued.  
It goes beyond restricted materials.  And, in this case it even pauses $ from going to RL!!!!

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