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hi, currently i'm trying to export some characters cloths to CC3 but i'm stuck with a annoying issue specially for female character the original model with i used to export the cloths have a different height for breasts being more up while CC character breasts are more down and none of the breast morphs can "up or down" the breasts,making really a pain to adjust the cloth for the character, anyone know a good work around for it??? and for the future could be good add a "up and down morph for breasts because that could be a really most have morph for this even daz and mixamo character creator have that "up down breast morph" it could help much more to adjust many female cloths which have more up or down breasts.
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Does Mixamo not have morphs to adjust the character to something close to the CC3 default?

There are the mesh editing tools in CC3 P that you can reshape the clothing with. If it's pretty close, the conform is often enough.

Check this video.

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Does Mixamo not have morphs to adjust the character to something close to the CC3 default?

There are the mesh editing tools in CC3 P that you can reshape the clothing with. If it's pretty close, the conform is often enough.

Check this video.


he have however still not "down enough" to match CC and the problem is not mixamo but also others "mehses" for exemple i downloaded a meshe from characters from mixamo site, and most of the womans on that site does have that more "high and small sholder area.

as i told it's not like impossible but the work to fix it is really a pain as you showed you must wast a lot of time to adjusting it edit mesh, for now it's taking me a lot of hours to just adjust the mesh around that place, while the others places take just few seconds or minutes but when comes to the breast area is really a pain, because some characters mesh are more "cartoon/anime style and normally the breasts on that meshes are more close to the shoulder unlike the "realistic" style of CC where the breast are a lot down but to be fair some womans can have more "up or down breasts" and could be really cool add a morph for that, cuz it could save a lot of time wasting in adjust something where a morph could reduce it great to simple few seconds or minutes.

but really for now looks like the only way to fix is really taking a lot of time adjusting it.

take this character as a exemple he is one of the samples from mixamo free site(not from the program)

as you see they breast are much more close to sholders than in CC and the sholder area is small than CC this make really hard and a big pain to have to adjust all that place not just the breats but also around the sholders to make a proper adjust without look weird and more "normal" can take a lot of hours of editing mesh.

the problem is not just the breasts but a big area around that.

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If you don't have the Essential Morphs pack, I would highly recommend it. It'll have a lot of breast morphs in it.

Is there some reason you prefer Fuse clothing over DAZ clothing? The DAZ pipeline is already working quite nicely.
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If you don't have the Essential Morphs pack, I would highly recommend it. It'll have a lot of breast morphs in it.

Is there some reason you prefer Fuse clothing over DAZ clothing? The DAZ pipeline is already working quite nicely.


well the most important thing is which for now "mixamo is free" any animation or character from mixamo site is free and if you have fuse 1.3 you can still using them for free, that is why for now i'm sticking with mixamo before start to go to DAZ, i'm already expending a lot of money, already bought, substance paint, marvelous design, character creator bundle and others extra program, then it's means which for now i'm "out of cash" to keep expending money on models until ending or february.

about the essential i do have it, i bought the character creator brundle christmass special sales (which also come with some others stuffs) then before i can start to go focus on DAZ stuffs i'm trying to use mixamo first also and before i go to reallusion store to buy some stuffs which i'm interested but the problem now is cash x time, and i'm already starting to work in my prototype for the game then i can't wait until my cash is back to work.

and to be fair some mixamo stuffs are pretty cool that archer cloth is really cool and i was trying to add it to my cc but while legs, bots and even head are fine the chest/sholders side is being really a pain to fix i having almost a full day of losing time just fixing a single piece of cloth and sometimes it ending being going something wrong and making me have to redo from the scratch again.

and it's not just mixamo but also others models aswell even some models from like epic store the female model are really different from CC on the same issue do to CC breasts being too down and clavicle too large then that sort of "models become complicated to export to CC due to the lack of morphs and difference between models, you can edit the model but it's a big trouble to adjust it.
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Try the "chest width" and "pectoral height" morphs. And maybe some "bust proximity" as well.

Note that you can overdrive morphs beyond the slider range by typing a number directly in the box. 

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/23ec96fc-12ee-4780-be80-a574.jpg
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Try the "chest width" and "pectoral height" morphs. And maybe some "bust proximity" as well.

Note that you can overdrive morphs beyond the slider range by typing a number directly in the box. 

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/23ec96fc-12ee-4780-be80-a574.jpg

hmm thanks for the tips, i will try it.
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here my final work after long hours of working and editing:

female:


and male:

male need some little adjusts around the boots and lol that cleavage around the breasts from the normal need a fix too but it can be done by retexturing and baking a new normal map
i'm also had made 2 different hoods one with hairs and another without.

this cloth is amazing and in the way i "cut it" it can have a big number of combination with others cloths aswell.

Adding few more morphs for breast height and adjusting more the clavicle or something like that for that sort of models (not exlcusive for fuse mixamo).
to be fair the reason i'm so focused on mixamo is because it really have a "big library" of cloths all for free(you can even customize the textures making even diferent variations and all are very low poly game ready(you can increase a little if you feel being "too little polys, most pices get even close to 1k poly and only the biggers one are around that number)

For a start indie it can be very helpfull before go grab things from RL store or DAZ store 

but anyway Rampa big thanks for all the support and help, you really helped me a lot in reduce wasting time with annoying adjusts.



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