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I'd like Wrinkle maps more than anything else

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@Delerma, not to criticize since you said it was your first test, but your wrinkles looked kind of drawn on (the 30 strength looked the best).

I tried a didn't way, just taking the existing bump map, making a copy of the section I wanted, and pasting the copy in another layer, with the original still under it, then I resized the copy layer a few times and made it darker a little.

This is young character, so wrinkles wouldn't be as profound, and 1 part is kind of an obvious, but after watching these videos I can see the value in this.

Here is the normal character.
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And here is the wrinkled forehead.
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So now I need to find out how to link this to a pose. 

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IllusionLab that's a great example of how useful they are. The movement of facial muscles is considerably less noticeable without the mapping.

Delerna. The quality of what you did quick isn't an issue. It shows how effective it can be on an Iclone character, nice work.

Data Juggler, now imagine we had that for nose, eyes, mouth, and cheeks as well as forehead, all dialing in dynamically as the characters move their faces.
My film is 70 mins but I'll only have head wrinkles for the last 5 minutes since it's a scene most important for of emotion, and even then I'll be rendering the scene twice (with and without the wrinkles) and blending between the videos in an editor.
Having an actual working wrinkle map system in Iclone could kick facial animation up 4 notches.
Faceware is a $1000+ plugin. We have the option to spend a lot of money to capture emotion but we can't get the most out our characters without this already common technique.

Edit. If I use the PBR mixer I can get more than one normal map on a surface at once. Far from an ideal solution but at least I can setup some kind of poor man's version that I manually dial up and down and won't need multiple renders or video editing.
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Many wrinkles - threw in the liver spots for good measure   ~V~


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Hi Rogue. I know the title can be confusing. A wrinkle map isn't something that simply puts wrinkles on the face.
It's something that handles the folds that form during facial movement, folds that aren't present in the face's resting position.
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