1) Drag the Previewscreen Timeline Scrubber to end of Path

2) Enter 100, in "Position"

3) Play-back. Character should stop at end of Path.

Anyone-else?

I don;t suppose you'd care to prvide any more detail?  Such as enter 100 where?  Where is this position entry field?  SHould I have the character or the path selected?  If I have the path selected, I see no Position filed (seen screenshot 1).  If I have the character selected, the Postion field isn't editable because I didn't choose the Pick Path option, I right clicked told the character to Move Forward and then clicked the first point of the path. (see screenshot 2)

You know what happens when you assume, right?  Assuming that not everybod is as brilliant as you, and giving vauge instructions isn't really helpful.

FWIW - My "Brilliance" is at the same level as your's;)

Re; My "Helpfulness", I suggest you read my over 8,000 Posts helping others in the Pinnacle Studio Forum. ;)

1) Select Character

2) Select Animation Tab

3) Select Create Path

4) Create Path

5) Deselect Path Tool

6) Select Character again

7) Select Pick Path

8) Move Timeline Slider 

9) Enter 100 in Position - See Attached Image.

BTW - There's an excellent Video Tutorial by Kurzal, using a Prop, which is self-explanatory.

In the manual it clearly states, create a path.  Right click on the character and choose Move->Walk Forward, then click the beginning of the path.  Hence the character walks along the path.  There is no Position field to enter.  All I want to know is, using this method as outlined in the manual, how to make my character actually stop at the end point.

http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/Help/iClone4/Pro/08_Animation/Path/Character_Picking_Path.htm

it's also outlined in the iClone video (at about 2:50) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sduaq3-VOrM&playnext=1&list=PL8E7CBE3691A26EF3

I would have thought a note of thanks from you for the time & effort I've spent in Replying to your Post, when no-one-else has, so far, would have been in order. Apparently not.

A view that's been Posted many times by the Forum's Experts (Which I'm not), whov'e spent some considerable time & effort helping other Forum Mambers, with precious little thanks

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"Manners maketh Man"

The Route & Screenshot I posted, works ok here & for others, apparently. 

ADDED -You might like to look at Crickey's Reply in this Thread; https://forum.reallusion.com/Topic88362-86-1.aspx 

Had it actually been helpful, and answere the actual question instead of telling me to do it another way, another way contradictory to the instructions in the manual, pehaps I would've given thanks.  Instead of help, all I really got was attitude.  So thanx for that.

Forget it, I'll figure it out on my own.  I merely came here to ask how to accomplish something clearly documented in the manual, that didn't give the expected results.  I didn't come here looking for attitude, but it's precisely what I got.  Cocky, arrogant attitude.

Anybody else?

Thats the arrogant response I got.  And instead of helping me out with the clearly documented instructins as outlined in the manual, I was told to do it some completely, and less convienent way.

As I have already stated, by wating iClones tutorials and in reading the manual, I am doing it it the prescribed way.  It is not necessary to Pick Path.  There are many advanatages of doing it the way documented in the manual.  I'll just have to live with the fact that it overshoots.

IMO, "An Innocent Bystander" (Legal Term), having read This Thread, would deduce that it's in fact yourself who has a "Cocky, arrogant attitude".

As I recall (Correctly/incorrectly), that's the way described in Kurzal's excellent Video Tutorial.

Since you're not prepared to even attempt to fix your problem by applying the fixes provided, one can only assume that you're a time-waster:angry:

There are stronger words I could use to describe yourself, based on your responses, but they would breach the Forum's TOS. Maybe you should read them! 

When right clicking a character and choosing the Move Forward command, then clicking a path, how to prevent them from overshooting the end point of the path.

Your initial answer was edit the Position field, and change it to 100.

Now if you had actually read my question, you would've known that the Position field doesn't play into it at all. It is disabled and non-editable. But instead of explaining what you meant, you instead popped off with an "Anyone else", as if you were the complete volume of iClone knowledge, and that there wasn't anything you couldn't answer.

And yet, it still was not an answer.  And when I pointed out that the manual explains the exact same method I was using, and that iClones own tutorials on the subject refer to my method, you still weren't any help.  Instead you point me to a tutorial on moving props along a path.

Then you have the audacity to critisize me because I didn't thank you.  And yet, you still never answered the initial question.

So I am so very sorry to have wasted your time asking a question you obviously cannot answer, and instead of admitting it, you go of onto other tangents.

For anyone else, the initial question remains.  When right clicking a character, and choosing move forward, then clicking the first point in the path, is there a way to prevent the character from overshooting the end of the path?  It's even worse if one chooses Run Forward. 

Thank you for your consideration.

I'm not exactly sure how to interpret this message.  You tell me to edit the end key, but there is in fact no "key" to edit. Then you edited your message to say that you understand my point, that you don't use iClone, but Max (by which I assume you mean 3DS Max).  So is there something I should be gleaning from this message?  Surely not to use 3DS Max, because I really don't have much desire to be a full fledged 3D character modeler and animator.

For the record, if you right click the path animation in the timeline, you can choose "Transition Curve", but it is already set to Linear. (see screenshot)

So... uh... thanx, I think?

It's not really that important. As I said, I've been away from iClone for a long time (perhaps for the very same reasons of your own frustrations) but I've re-kindled my interest in the app after using some even more restrictive software than iClone. So I'm re-aquaintting myself with it, and came across this path overshoot issue.  I was hoping there was a convienent way to prevent it from happeneing, but if it's just one of the quirks of the app, then I can accomodate (aka work around) for it.  (for the record, I am not a big fan of the pick path alternative, although it does give the best results at the end point, but the snapping to the path, and having to link and unlink the path is just an inconvienece that shouldn't be necessary)

Of course, having such variable results for something that should behave consistently, is indeed one of those frustrating quirks that turned me off to the app initially.

I have a sneaking suspicion it has to do withthe length of the walk animation cycle, and when he hits that end point, he's actually in the middle of the walk loop, which must finish up, hence overshooting the endpoint. There should be a re-calculation somewhere within the app that just isn't applied, but is applied when choosing the Pick path option.

1) Character is following a Path, using just Character Walk/Run Forward Right Click Command. As discussed in this Thread.

2) Using just Walk/Run Forward Right-Click Command & then Clicking the point at which you want the Characxter to Walk/Run to. This has been discussed before.

3) In Director Mode & just using the W Key, when released. There's possibly an over-run, using ASD Keys.

Solutions for 1) have been provided.

 2) & 3), I Edit-out the over-run in my NLE Program. Which I find easier & quicker to do, since I over-run the Timescale of each Scene anyway, giving sufficient leeway to Edit-out bits I don't want

Stuckon3D is the Expert here. Not me. Best to take & follow his advice re; all matters re; iClone, when offered.;)

My current Project requires several Paths for iProps & Characters (2 are Linked to each-other).

nevermind... I had a real snippy, snarky comment here, but I've edited it back out, I am not going to restart the flames...

Thank you Mark, I appreciate you listing several different solutions.  However, if I may play devil's advocate...  Firstly, you have to admit that not having to pick a path, but instead choosing Move Forward, then clicking the beginning point of a path is far more convienet than the different methods you've listed.  One of the primary advantages is if the character is not physically positioned at the beginning point ,they will naturally walk to that point before beginning their trek on the actual path.  This can come in handy in many different scenarios.  The second big advantage is not having to pick and release paths.  Again in a busy scene, picking and releasing paths, espcially with many different paths, can over-complicate a scene. 

So because of the convience, especially if it is a busy scene, the right clicking method may be preferable, and yet still overshoots.  All your methods involve meticulous tweaking in the timeline.  For a small scene, not a problem.  But a big scene, with many other animations and/or characters could get overwhelming.

So as far as you know, is there anyway to keep the convienence and limit the overshooting to a minimum?

Either RL should fix this, or remove this method altogether since it doesn't give good enough results.

.............and lose.

I was warned about the Flamers in Reallusion Forum before I became a Member, by a well-respected Senior Member & that's why we both preferred CoolClones Forum - A much nicer place to be. Unfortunately it's more-or-less petered-out.

The Reallusion Forum has a bad reputation for Flaming.

My Post was in Reply to sw0000P's Post, anyway.

Amen

[snip... no worth falling to the tempation, or the bait presented.  talk about flaming...]

Thanks for that, Mark:)

Downloaded to my iC4 Tuts / Mark's Tuts Folder, Via Applian Freecorder & can be viewed, using Applian free FLV Player (If others are interested).

If I may be so bold to ask a how to question...  Is there a way to get the character to stop somewhere along the path, for a length of time, then resume moving along the path until the finish?  Stop and perform some other animations/actions before resuming?

[EDIT] - Nevermind, I think I figured it out.  Move along the timeline find your spot where you want them to stop, and edit the position field.  This will drop a new key onto the timeline.  Copy it move forward in time where you want them to resume, and paste the new key.  You'll most likely also need to move the ending key a bit further along to to tweak the timing.

Of course getting the looping animations timed and in the right places will be trickly, but they're tricky on just a normal move along a path, so same premise, just time different animation sequences, then resume the walking loop...

rampa (8/13/2011)

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Getting back to the original query.......

I did a little experimenting, and discovered that when my character overshoots the end of the path (I don't like attaching them to a path), I can then select the point in the timeline at which they are exactly at the end of the path, and add an "idle pose" (the one where they are just standing there, but any pose would work). You might want to drag out the transition portion of the idle pose (outline part on the front of the clip in the timeline) for a smoother transition.

In the timeline: The walk will be on the "Move" line for the character, and the idle pose will be on the "motion" line for the character.



Hope this helps.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a wiiner.  Rampa, as to the original question, this is indeed the best solution.  I too am not a big fan of the picking path method, which is why I asked the original question in the first place.  Although based on all the other answers here, I felt that it was the only feasible way. But you have renewed my faith in the user friendliness, and ease of use which iClone is supposed to be known for.

However, to the others who've responded in this post, thanks to you, I have learned that  if you're willing to go through the extra steps and tweaking, the pick path method does allow for far greater control.

So thanks to everyone.  Rampa has shown that we can have our cake and eat it too, and the other posters have taught me how to bake a far more elaborate cake.