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By dreddie51 - 15 Years Ago
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1. Do you need an XBox to use Kinect with iClone5? Or 2. Can you use Kinect with iClone5 WITHOUT an XBox? Thanks! DrEddie
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By Peter (RL) - 15 Years Ago
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You don't need an XBox 360 to use Kinect with iClone5. What you will need is the iClone Kinect plugin which will be a separate purchase of $99.95 approx.
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By tyler zambori - 15 Years Ago
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so I take it this plugin, is this:
The additional Mocap Device Plug-in (List Price: $99.95) will be readily available for users who wish to connect their iClone5 with real-time input devices such as Kinect's Motion Capture system. This will allow for highly customized, at-home motion capturing that requires no special suits, additional cameras or sensors.
So it's a plugin device, not a plugin software that requires extra equipment
to go with it? That is what was not clear....it seems...
So then we would still need to buy a Kinect Motion Capture System?
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By tyler zambori - 15 Years Ago
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PS: I think you would still have to buy *this*:
http://www.ipisoft.com/sales.php?gclid=COH1pu7rp6oCFQIFbAod2yDAWA
at $1,000.
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By tylerzambori - 15 Years Ago
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On second thought never mind.....but it's confusing.
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By dreddie51 - 15 Years Ago
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Thank you. DrEddie
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By Peter (RL) - 15 Years Ago
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tyler zambori (7/29/2011)
PS: I think you would still have to buy *this*:
http://www.ipisoft.com/sales.php?gclid=COH1pu7rp6oCFQIFbAod2yDAWA
at $1,000.No you don't need that. You will need iClone5 + Plugin + Kinect sensor.
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By tyler zambori - 15 Years Ago
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so it would be $100 for the plugin, and $144 for this:
http://www.amazon.com/Kinect-Sensor-Adventures-Xbox-360/dp/B002BSA298
Alrighty, I can plan for that. Thanks!
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By yaRincewind - 15 Years Ago
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One thing some people should be aware is that the Cinect, if connected to a PC, needs an extra power supply!
In the standalone Cinect box, like this one above mentioned from amazon, the PSU is included.
If you buy an xbox bundeled with the cinect, the PSU is not included!
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By tyler zambori - 15 Years Ago
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But he said we don't need an xbox....
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By jamesknine - 15 Years Ago
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tyler zambori (7/30/2011)
But he said we don't need an xbox....
You can by the Kinect sensor by itself and it comes with everything you need hardware wise to work with iclone. You still have to buy the $99 plugin to make it worth with iclone 5.
If you buy it as part of a bundle with the xbox 360 then you have to find an external power supply/usb cord combo for it (http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Kinect-Adapter-Power-Supply/dp/B004IXRXGY). You DO NOT need the Xbox 360 to hook up to your PC, just the Kinect sensor but when you buy it bundled with a 360, it does not come with that cord since that version of the Xbox 360 does not require an external power supply for the kinect.
You'd still need to buy the $99 plugin to make it work with iclone 5, however.
Best,
Jim
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By Capemedia - 15 Years Ago
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tyler zambori (7/29/2011)
so it would be $100 for the plugin, and $144 for this:
http://www.amazon.com/Kinect-Sensor-Adventures-Xbox-360/dp/B002BSA298
Alrighty, I can plan for that. Thanks!No you need iClone5, the pluggin around $99 and a kinect around $150. You do not need a Xbox and all Kinects sold separately should come with there own power supply. Cape :) P.S. What Jim said previous comment :cool:
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By mark - 15 Years Ago
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Well still confused!! I know ..."What new?".... you say. :D
But at like Amazon they don't list a power supply as included with the Kinect Sensor.
It says....
What's in The Box?
Kinect Sensor
Power Supply Cable
Kinect Adventures Game
Manual
Wireless Network Adapter Cable
I don't think "Power Supply Cable" would be the "wall_wart" power supply.
I'm sure getting a wall-wart would be easy but getting the right voltage and pin config might take a little research.
Please clue me in someone :w00t:
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By warlord720 - 15 Years Ago
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You don't need the XBox but you do need the power supply SINCE the xbox will not be used. It is my understanding that buying the kinect by itself does include the power supply and mine did.
I plugged it into the power, then my usb port, windows 7 found it immediately and listed it as hardware under "Sensor" or something like that.
From there on out it was sweet mocap music... or rather stumbling old man mocap but its all the same at my age.
EDIT: That is what I bought Mark so that should be all you need.
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By Peter (RL) - 15 Years Ago
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I know this is all sounding confusing to those unfamiliar with Kinect but it really isn't. Basically the only people likely to run into problems are those who got their Kinect sensor bundled with a new slim XBox 360. These latest XBox's power the Kinect directly and so you won't have an external power source available. Anyone who purchases a Kinect sensor on its own should have everything included to connect it to an old model XBox 360 or to a PC which is what we are interested in here. :)
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By mark - 15 Years Ago
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Thanks guys! All is clear...:D
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By dh216832 - 15 Years Ago
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I purchased a kinect separately last Christmas. I have an old xbox 360. The kinect came with a splitter cable for power and USB. Plugging into the computer will require nothing additional that I can see.
BTW kinect works great with the 360...looking forward to iclone.
dh
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By Cellygon - 15 Years Ago
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EDIT: nevermind, my question is answered already
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By nigel - 15 Years Ago
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For those of us that has never used the kinect stuff and are tight for space (read the reviews) http://www.kinectaku.com/news/2011/07/make_your_room_bigger_with_nykos_kinect_zoom I'm seriously thinking about upgrading my 4.0 version of Iclone, christmas time. :P http://youtu.be/eiE5gduCrBU LOL :D
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By Peter (RL) - 15 Years Ago
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sw00000p (8/2/2011)
I have one of the older xbox 360 models, and Kinect. Looking for Quality? KINECT SUCKS! The Lag is soo bad and when you clean it up... The Quality is Soo Bad! I knew we could rely on you for a positive comment sw00000p :D Personally I disagree. I find Kinect very responsive in general. :P
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By mark - 15 Years Ago
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Hee,Hee, Hee.....:P Never disappoints :D
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By Capemedia - 15 Years Ago
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sw00000p (8/2/2011)
I have one of the older xbox 360 models, and Kinect. Looking for Quality? KINECT SUCKS! The Lag is soo bad and when you clean it up... The Quality is Soo Bad! LOL :P Thank you for making my day :D
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By warlord720 - 15 Years Ago
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I have to agree with Peter on this one. After using this method with middleware for a few months it has more exceeded our expectations and it looks like iClone has a much better implementation of it.
I keep reading about all the cleanup involved but I've yet to actually experience any of that and we use it quite often. For us cleanup is minimal and done at the touch of a few buttons and settings.
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By dh216832 - 15 Years Ago
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Peter (RL) (8/2/2011)
sw00000p (8/2/2011)
I have one of the older xbox 360 models, and Kinect.
Looking for Quality? KINECT SUCKS!
The Lag is soo bad and when you clean it up... The Quality is Soo Bad!I knew we could rely on you for a positive comment sw00000p :D Personally I disagree. I find Kinect very responsive in general. :P
Agree. The kinect itself is not only responsive but functions very well regardless of how poorly I light the room. It actually does better than I would have thought.
On the other hand when using this with ic5 the 360 is out of the picture and its just you, the kinect and the PC - right? Those in the beta would know better but this should be quite productive. Clean-up, well, we'll see when we get there. I know I'm going to try it...I've already got the HW.
dh
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By funfunfun - 15 Years Ago
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To Warlord...
When you say, "cleanup is minimal and done at the touch of a few buttons and settings" -- what does that involve specifically?
What do you mean when you say "using this method with middleware" -- What Middleware? And also are there any video examples of your output?
Thanks a lot!
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