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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello,
I purchased most of the Reallusion software and installed it but I am have trouble with IClone 4 Pro. I installed Iclone 4 Pro first then the content but I am getting errors on screen even when i try a template. I am runniing Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit and UAC is disabled, and I have the show windows hidden files enabled so I can see all files.
I am attaching 2 screenshots of the a couple of the errors, the first says i am missing a codec and the other says it cant find the files. And yes it happens on every template as I tried them all.
For the screenshot the whole error does not show but it says: "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Reallusion\Custom\iClone 4 Custom\Project\iClone 4 Project\Fire.avi"
For the path I don't have a C:\Documents and Settings\* on my at all not sure why it is trying to look there either.
I have only had the software just over a day and am totally new to it and to and 3D software. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance Gren
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By Peter (RL) - 14 Years Ago
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Hi Gren Did you move any files or folders after installation of iClone4? When iClone4 installs it will set your system registry with the locations of your installed content. Then when you load a project or other content in iClone it will know where to look for the files. It would seem from the errors you are receiving that maybe files or folders have been moved or that installation was not completed successfully leaving you with registry errors. I would advise uninstalling iClone4, restarting your computer and then installing again. You will notice during the installation procedure that iClone asks you for the install locations of the default and your own custom content. It is wise to make a note of these locations so you know where the content has been installed to for future reference. Give the reinstall a try and see if this solves the problem.
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello,
Thanks for the fast reply to my issue, I appreciate it.
I only installed IClone 4 Pro yesterday and did not move a single file. After the install completed I never touched the software till today and thats when i noticed all the errors when i tried any template.
If you say to uninstall and reinstall does the program automatically deactivate so I dont have a problem installing again? Also do i have to uninstall all the software like the IClone 4 3Dxchange or only IClone 4 Pro?
Thanks in advance Gren
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello,
1) Ok i did a full uninstall of the software then restarted.
2) I then installed IClone 4 Pro and noted the directories as C:\User\Public Documents\Reallusion listed for both directories. 3) restarted 4) Then I opened IClone 4 and an update shows so I installed the update. 5) restarted 6) opened IClone 4 Pro and tried templates, I still get errors depending on template and the error is similar on every template. 7) Downloaded K-lite mega pac both 32 and 64bit. 8) installed k-lite 32 bit mega pack & restarted 9) Opened IClone 4 and tried a template I still get Codec error and I still get the "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Reallusion\Custom\iClone 4 Custom\Project\iClone 4 Project\*****.avi " 10) Closed IClone and installed K-lite 64bit pack and then restarted. 11) Opened IClone and tried a template again. Still get both Codec error and the file path error. 12) closed IClone and Installed content again and then restarted. 13) opened IClone and tried again, and still get both errors.
I should also add I made sure my virus protection was disabled for each install as I always disable for known safe software on installs. Not sure what to do at this point as I am well versed in computers. Unless there is another method for Iclone to see the correct folder or content.
I went to the path listed on install and the files are all there and I have attached a screenshot of the path listed on install. So for some reason IClone 4 keeps looking for C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Reallusion\ ****.
please let me know Thanks in advance Gren
EDIT: I also just tried clicking the 1-Click verification in IClone and it finished but still no change. Lots and Lots of errors/missing files acording to IClone 4. It keeps looking in the wrong spot for every template and throwing up missing file errors such as "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Reallusion\Share Templates\Video\3D Video FX.wmv C:\Program Files\Reallusion\iClone 4\Template\iClone Template\Video\Water\WaterDiffuse01.avi "
I am very irritated at this point with the software. Not really a good start for a new user who just spent hundreds of dollars on multiple pieces of software.
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By musicaz - 14 Years Ago
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Sarcastic = maybe they should fix this version of iclone before they come out with another bug ridden one.. , hint , only a suggestion , mind you !!!
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello,
I don't fault the Reallusion software a 100% nor the programers, as we all know Vista sucks A##.
The videos/tutorials on youtube look good for the software, which was one of my main reasons for getting them. As originally I purchase IClone 4 Standard from Serif software and the day I got it in the mail from them I purchased upgrade to pro and got almost all the other software. So I have only had it 2or 3 days now and was looking forward to playing.
Anyways I just hope the issue can be fixed with IClone 4 Pro. Thanks Gren
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By Peter (RL) - 14 Years Ago
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Hi Gren Sorry to hear your problems continue. Please contact Reallusion Support using the link below. They will be able to dig a little deeper and advise you further on how to resolve this. They should have you up and running very soon. http://www.reallusion.com/CustomerSupport/User/QForm.aspx Thanks.
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By Peter (RL) - 14 Years Ago
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Gren (5/22/2011) If you say to uninstall and reinstall does the program automatically deactivate so I dont have a problem installing again? Also do i have to uninstall all the software like the IClone 4 3Dxchange or only IClone 4 Pro?If you always remember (when possible) to uninstall, while connected to the internet, before doing another install you will be credited back your installation. As you have a total of 5 fresh installs, by always uninstalling this count will never reach this limit.
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By colour - 14 Years Ago
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Looks like for whatever reason, that the Program GUI Templates are looking for Windows XP File path & not Vista/W7 file Path, where the Content is Installed. You might be able to either "Dag & Drop" the Content Templates from their "Containing" Folder into iClone Program Templates or directly onto the Previewsreen. More info re; that, in the User Manual (I think), as a temporary measure.
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello,
Thanks for the replies and the help with my issue.
to make things more clear I uploaded a screen recording of the issues and put it on a test youtube account.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VncRWhhbFaw
As for dragging in the items into IClone do you mean drag in the route folder where the templates are stored? If you watch the vid you will see what im talking about with the errors.
Thanks Gren
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By colour - 14 Years Ago
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1) Open iClone 2) Go to the Folder where iClone Template Files are located. 3) Select a Template File & Drag it to iClone Icon in Taskabar & Drop it onto Either the relevant Content Manager Window or Previewscreen window. Check the User Manual. Re; "Drag & Drop". NB - Enable "Drag & Drop" External Files in Preferences Drop-Down first. ADDED -OK. Just watched Video. You have the "Virtual" Templates in Content Manager & the Source Template Files in the Correct File Path Location for Vista/W7. Dragging & Dropping them when required into the Previewscreen might provide a temporary solution until iClone Technical Support can sort-out the XP File Path, when you have Vista/W7? BTW - Does the same happen when you select non-FX Templates? Re; CODECs IMO, Video Effects are applied as RAW AVI & CODECs for those would be supplied by Windows with the OS. That being said, I think I read somewhere that iClone needs a certain CODEC, & that's why I also have Klite CODEC Pack. Unfortunately I don't have the time right now to check it all out my end, using iC4 as a test. ADDED - Just remembered that Manual "Drag & Drop" for Video refers to getting Klite CODEC Pack. Presumably for compressing the RAW AVI for iClone Input Mode. In NLE Programs, Video Effects aren't compressed. That's why they appear jerky when Previewed until Rendered to your chosen Format.
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By duchess110 - 14 Years Ago
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When I was running Vista 32 bit I had a similar problem with Widget Cast Pro my swf file would not load and they were looking for a bogus path C/Documents/Settings etc etc After several mail with support there suggestion was to create another user/administrator account and make sure I had all the updates. Did this and it worked. So maybe it is worth you trying and create another user account and see what happens. If no good you can then remove it.
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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colour (5/23/2011) 1) Open iClone
2) Go to the Folder where iClone Template Files are located.
3) Select a Template File & Drag it to iClone Icon in Taskabar & Drop it onto Either the relevant Content Manager Window or Previewscreen window. Check the User Manual. Re; "Drag & Drop".
NB - Enable "Drag & Drop" External Files in Preferences Drop-Down first.
ADDED -OK. Just watched Video. You have the "Virtual"Templates in Content Manager & the Source Template Files in the Correct File Path Location for Vista/W7. Dragging & Dropping them when required into the Previewscreen might provide a temporary solution until iClone Technical Support can sort-out the XP File Path, when you have Vista/W7?
BTW - Does the same happen when you select non-FX Templates?
Re; CODECs IMO, Video Effects are applied as RAW AVI & CODECs for those would be supplied by Windows with the OS.
That being said, I think I read somewhere that iClone needs a certain CODEC, & that's why I also have Klite CODEC Pack.
Unfortunately I don't have the time right now to check it all out my end, using iC4 as a test.
ADDED - Just remembered that Manual "Drag & Drop" for Video refers to getting Klite CODEC Pack. Presumably for compressing the RAW AVIfor iClone Input Mode.In NLE Programs, Video Effects aren't compressed. That's why they appear jerky when Previewed until Rendered to your chosen Format.
Hello,
Ok following your steps here is what i tried.
1) Opened IClone
2) Step two gives me the same errors as before. I opened "c:\users\public\public documents\reallusion\template\iclone4 template\iclone template\project" As you see above Iclone4 template is listed twice as thats the path to get to them.
3) Drag and drop gives same errors
BTW - Does the same happen when you select non-FX Templates?
As for other non--fx templates all the templates listed on the left side of the screen give me errors and some of them lots of missing files, and every one gives me the codec errors. I have not gone any into any menus or setting or other parts of the software. I simply tried all the items on the left of iclone.
As for K-lite I installed as per K-lite faq's so I installled 32bit version and tried iclone, and still got codec errors. So then I installed the 64bit k-lite and tried iclone again and still get codec errors. That is with doing restarts in between each install, and the k-lite package I used the mega pack.
Maybe the gods don't want me to have the software, its the only thing that makes sense. Thanks Fred
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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duchess110 (5/23/2011) When I was running Vista 32 bit I had a similar problem with Widget Cast Pro my swf file would not load and they were looking fora bogus path C/Documents/Settings etc etc
After several mail with support there suggestion was to create another user/administrator account and makesure I had all the updates.
Did this and it worked. So maybe it is worth you trying and create another user account and see what happens. If no good you can then remove it.
edit: oops hit wrong key.
Hello,
Ok now I tried what you said and it did not work I opened control panel created a new user it did its thing for a few minutes and once it was ready I tried Iclone4. And I still get the same crappy errors. As for my system I have all updates on everything with one exception. The exception is i have not update my video card drivers for a few weeks.
So now I will wait for the support gods to help me get this paper weight working. Thanks for the help Fred
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello,
Ok so I continue the saga but am getting closer but also causing some problems along the way. Please excuse and spelling mistakes as typing with one hand does not work well.
So as I/we last left off the issues were error with codec and missing files, and Iclone looking for a directory that does not exist. Well I made some progress with help from many of you, but opened a new can of worms.
First the Codec error, which is the main issue or so it seems. After installing K-lite both 32&64bit and installing the windows vista codec package (which did not make sense to me since I run vista). The codec error was still happening, so during all the reading and the replies to my issue, as well as a reinstall of both Iclone and K-lite it was still not working. So while waiting and praying for more help or a fix to this issue. I decided to run the k-lite "quick codec config" yet again. At this point I got all kinds of messages saying to disable some codecs as well many more options to activate more codecs. After attempting to do what the config program wanted, I had some luck both good and bad.
The semi-good news is that Iclone saw a few of the codecs and some of the templates are/were working (some). But with the good comes bad and the bad has screwed me up more. Atleast one of my programs started to give me errors and has told me to reinstall them, such as camtasia for one. I have not tested all my other video and audio editing suites and I hope they are all no all screwed up. Once Iclone 4 saw at least one of the codecs it fixed some of the path issues. So I now have a couple of issues If I leave it as is some of the Iclone 4 Templates work and some I still get errors, but then my Camtasia Studio needs repairing. And When I repair camtasia studio then Iclone gets goofed up and I have to repair k-lite codecs by reinstalling and running config again.
Im sure this topic will make other go as insain as I am at this point. Please let me know if anyone has any good ideas, how to fix my issues short of buying a new OS.
Thanks Gren
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By bluemidget666 - 14 Years Ago
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I would try a system restore to a point before installing Iclone or k-lite then install Iclone and see if the errors are still there .... remember to uninstal Iclone first.. As to me it looks as though ya registry may be at fault
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By bluemidget666 - 14 Years Ago
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Hi Swooop
System restore isnt uninstalling its taking it back to a time before either of these programs were installed as it could be that the registry has been corrupted some how and installing and uninstalling will not fix that but a system restore just might and as they may have to wait till after the weekend for support to get back intouch with them its worth a shot dont you think ?
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By colour - 14 Years Ago
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I recall k-lite CODEC Pack causing a number of issues for a number of Users over the years on other Forums. The general advice was don't install it. However I have it with no problems. I'll: 1) Check my Saved K-Lite Install EXE File & Post the Version. 2) I'll check the Video/Audio CODECs installed on my W7 Home Premium 64 Bit OS PC & Post Screenshots. If what I have is ok for me, it should be ok for you. But we don't have the same Programs Installed. IMO, Generic Video/Audio CODECs are Installed with Windows OS & any additional ones with individual Program Installations. Eg; Pinnacle Studio NLE has Pinnacle Video CODECs, which are developed by another Developer & used by Pinnacle under License. I would guess that K-Lite have rolled-up all developed CODECs into one package under individual CODEC Developer Licence Agreements. Some of those can screw-up Programs on your PC, if not needed. ADDED - BTW, I've recently noticed that when Installing iClone Content, there's an incomprehensible Message stating that under Microsoft DRM, Content will now be Installed to the follwing Directory - or whatever In any event, IMO, you need to contacr Reallusiin Technical Support.
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By bluemidget666 - 14 Years Ago
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It may happen that way true.. but as support take weekends off there is nawt to lose..
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By bluemidget666 - 14 Years Ago
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The reason I suggest a system restore is that after installing a codec pack myself recently my prem elements stopped working even un installing the codec pack did not resolve the issue but a restore did ... like I say its worth a shot ... at worse they are back at a point before the problem happened
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By bluemidget666 - 14 Years Ago
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It doesn't take an IT Genius to figure this out! I think you may be judging others knowlage of computers on your own ... I know plenty of people who are good with software but hardly know how to plug in a mouse:D
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By bluemidget666 - 14 Years Ago
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YES I understand what you are saying .. what I am saying is that poking around in Administrative Tool and Device manager would be like delving into the black arts for some computer users...
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By bluemidget666 - 14 Years Ago
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I am off to bed my head hurts :D
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hey All,
Thanks for all the replies and help with this matter.
As soon as I got the response I sent a support ticket, I was hoping maybe that others with Vista may have had the same issue. As for wait for support I am aware of the long weekend and was not knocking support at all. Nor was I knocking any replies to this thread, as many of the posts were very good help and info. And support did reply already this weekend to my ticket and I had linked this thread in my ticket, just so they know the whole story.
As for the codecs I only installed K-lite as IClone gave me codec errors and the can't find file error, and a post in this thread said to install them. On my old system I used them and never had any issues before with them.
Also my comment Maybe the gods don't want me to have the software, its the only thing that makes sense was meant as a joke. Thou with a different companies software it was true as they had me send them tons of files and logs..
As for post from Tutor,
I am well versed in the admin tools and use the event viewer to check on almost every error I get with software or hardware, I say almost as sometimes I know what caused the error. And yes there are many errors listed in there since I installed IClone, four days ago if my math is right. For me I have nothing but time to spend on my system and trust me if I don't know something I google and search forums as well as posting support tickets when a big issue come up. I Also do understand about support tickets and long weekends and backlogs. I just hate not trying to rectify the issue myself and/or with the help of other users.
Anyways again I really appreciate all the help and info people have supplied in regards to this thread. I guess I seem impatient to some people but since i can spend 24/7/365 on my computer, I have all the time in the world. I just hate not having things work right of the start, but am also used to Vista causing more issues then I can count.
Just wait for my next post on CrazyTalk 6 animator as it is also giving error. I have been waiting till this software issue is fixed before i post the next. Thou both software mention *.RRA file errors in some directories in the Windows event logs, yet there are no *.RRA files listed in the directories.
Again thanks for all the help. Thanks
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By colour - 14 Years Ago
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System Restore like Windows Safe Mode is a Diagnostic Tool. Apart from taking a System Snapshot on Default dates, it also takes a Snapshot each time you Install/Uninstall a Program, helping you to identify whether or not a particulkar Program is causing conflict. Windows Safe Mode Runs with only the Hardware Drivers necessary for your Pc's basic functionality. That's why your Monitor's Resolution & colour depth are greatly reduced & Windows appear off-centre & washed-out. By alternating between Safe & normal Mode you can identify if there's a recently installed Hardware device that's causing problems, eg; a Video Card etc. System Restore Snapshots can eat-up a fair amount of OS HDD space. Many, like myself have it Dusabled, Restoreing to a previous time can often cause more problems than it solves, anyway. Or, you can Delete old Restore Points, leaving fairly recent ones.
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By Peter (RL) - 14 Years Ago
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Gren (5/23/2011) As soon as I got the response I sent a support ticket, I was hoping maybe that others with Vista may have had the same issue.Hi Gren I used to use Vista with iClone without any codec or missing file problems so I really don't think your issues are with Vista alone. There is obviously something system specific that is causing the problems you are having and the difficult part will be tracking down the cause. You can check for any replies from Support in your Account. Emails often get filtered as spam or junk so check your account if you are still waiting for a reply to be sure. I would also like to advise caution of installing codec packs, expecially more than one. I personally would never install a codec pack like K-Lite because I like to know exactly which codecs are installed. Troubleshooting codec issues can be a nightmare so my own preference is to stick to certain video formats and just install the correct codecs for those formats. (eg DivX, XVid). Hopefully support will be able to get you up and running soon. :)
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello Peter,
Thanks for the reply and info yet again.
I had little choice but to install K-lite as IClone gave me codec error on everything in the template area, and the codec was part of the issue with the file missing error. I do find it strange as I use my system for video editing have have many programs related to video and audio editing. Avid Studio, Serif, and the list goes on and on. And before anyone asks as they always do all my versions are licensed and paid for. I am on disability for many years so learning and playing keeps me happy. So i do a lot of editing for family and just for fun and just to learn new things. Which is why I got Iclone 4 and then upgraded to pro withen a day and then got most of the other Reallusion software as well.
I am dealing with support currently, and have been giving them screenshots and videos so they can see whats happening. they had me get a program called "installed codec editor", but it won't allow codecs to be disabled, as soon as I close the program or refresh the list the codec(s) are back on. This is not the first issue with software thou, as Poser pro 2010 would not function correctly, and had to return it, but Poser 7 works fine. Also Daz studio software also works fine as does blender.
Anyways as it stands right now IClone is working better but still with a few errors, but much less then before.
Anyways thanks for the help. Fred
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello everyone,
Ok i have good news support found the issue causing the codec/missing files in IClone 4 pro on my system.
We have been working on it for a few days and today we disabled the codec "ffdshow video decoder" and all but 1 item is working. And the one item not working the file can't be found on my system. It seems it was the codec that also caused the missing file errors and path errors.
So I think we are good to go at this point. And again thanks to all who helped me and gave me tips and info. Now I can play. Gren
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By colour - 14 Years Ago
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Good news - Thumbs-up for iClone Technical Support. BTW - Although I have K-Lite Downloaded Installer EXE File saved to my Downloaded Program Installer Files Folder, I don't have it Installed on my Current W7 PC. I've a feeling I Uninstalled it on My XP PC for similar reasons. Can't remember. The route to CODECs in XP could be found via Device Manager Video/Audio & Games Controllers, but not in W7 & therefore presumably not, in Vista. I've come-across the culprit CODEC I think fairly recently. I need to check iClone & proDAD's Heroglyph Export AVi CODEC options. Thanks for Posting the result - Good info:)
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By Peter (RL) - 14 Years Ago
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Gren (5/25/2011) Hello everyone,
Ok i have good news support found the issue causing the codec/missing files in IClone 4 pro on my system.
We have been working on it for a few days and today we disabled the codec "ffdshow video decoder" and all but 1 item is working. And the one item not working the file can't be found on my system. It seems it was the codec that also caused the missing file errors and path errors.
So I think we are good to go at this point. And again thanks to all who helped me and gave me tips and info. Now I can play. Gren
Hi Gren Great to hear that Support have been able to help you. Thanks for letting us know. :) .
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello,
Just wanted to say thanks again to everyone for your help and info. As a noob to IClone it was a great help, and also good to know the community is active and helpful.
Anyways Thanks again. Gren
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By animagic - 14 Years Ago
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I recently had the same errors with an existing iClone installation that had worked before. I then remembered that I had recently foolishly installed the Divx player, which turns out to screw up things big time, not just iClone. (Windows Media Player was affected to.) So I dished the Divx player and reinstalled the Vista Codec Pack (which also works for Windows 7, BTW). Now all is well again. This is for Vista 64 bit.
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello,
that is good to know about divx, as I also do have it installed. But now that I have the programs working I will not mess with it. I will keep better track of codec as well, as I have enough video editing software to sink a battleship.
Thanks Gren
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By Gren - 14 Years Ago
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Hello,
I have another update for you all on the same topic.
I was dealing with both support for IClone and support for the K-lite codec packages. It was IClone support that figured out the issue and advised me to make changes. I then let K-Lite support know and the asked me to turn ffdshow video decoder back on. They then asked me to open the start menu and go to their K-lite folder and then the configuration folder and then to select ffdshow video decoder. Once it opened they had me go to the directshow control inside the editor and asked me to add Iclone.exe to the blacklist. Then they told me to apply the changes and exit the config tool, and to test Iclone 4 again. Now that it was in the blacklist everything ran fine even thou ffdshow video decoder was enabled as the black list prevent programs from using it. So now my other video editing programs wont be affected as the ffdshow can remain enabled.
I just sent K-lite the results of the test and I am sure he will be adding Iclone.exe to the blacklist for ffdshow video decoder.
I will also be letting Reallusion know about the changes I did today so that in future other may not have this issue.
Thanks Gren
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By Peter (RL) - 14 Years Ago
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animagic (5/26/2011) I recently had the same errors with an existing iClone installation that had worked before. I then remembered that I had recently foolishly installed the Divx player, which turns out to screw up things big time, not just iClone. (Windows Media Player was affected to.) So I dished the Divx player and reinstalled the Vista Codec Pack (which also works for Windows 7, BTW). Now all is well again. This is for Vista 64 bit.Apparently there is a compatibility issue with the DivX player and Internet Explorer 9 that is causing a number of system issues at the moment. I would always avoid installing any "unrequired" extras with the codecs. Unless you have a specific need for these extras you will probably find the codec alone is good enough.
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By AdityaWin7 - 14 Years Ago
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Hello sir when i have try to install iclone4pro on my system it gives error shown below. Error Code: -5006 : 0x80070002 Error Information: >SetupNew\SetupDLL.cpp (841) PAPP:iClone 4 Professional PVENDOR:Reallusion Inc. (www.reallusion.com) PGUID:580EC579-E476-469F-9EBF-F82D696FC67A $12.0.0.58849. plz help me what i have to do?
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By colour - 14 Years Ago
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Welcome to the Forum:) That looks like an MSI (Microsoft Installer) Error Message. Checking Windows OS Event Viewer, might give an explanation & a Link to MS Website for a Fix. iClone4 is 2 years-old now. Where did you get it from? Send Reallusion Support a support Request, quoting your Error Message. Anyone-else? AdityaWin7 (12/13/2011)
Hello sir when i have try to install iclone4pro on my system it gives error shown below. Error Code: -5006 : 0x80070002 Error Information: >SetupNew\SetupDLL.cpp (841) PAPP:iClone 4 Professional PVENDOR:Reallusion Inc. (www.reallusion.com) PGUID:580EC579-E476-469F-9EBF-F82D696FC67A $12.0.0.58849. plz help me what i have to do?
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