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By planetstardragon - 2 Years Ago
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Twitch just started a new DJ program recently - it's aiming to be a game changer in the music side of art, streamers in the dj program are allowed to legally play songs on twitch's approved list, which is millions of songs. they also list songs that are restricted. The drawback is that I can't save any of the live streams as video on demand, which isn't a big deal for what I do. I'm a music promoter in 2 of the best music record pools in the world and get a ton of stuff directly from indie labels - mainly for dance music but not limited to just dance, so I'm having fun randomly going on and reviewing tracks that I've gotten over the years...just getting a feel for now with this new landscape and experimenting with all the things i can stream
the set up I'm using with Virtual DJ - allows me to play music AND videos - so I'm having fun making different shows using Iclone / character animator videos, AI art, and public domain movies ( so far, many ways to run with this! ) - Follow if you want notifications of when I go live and be part of the illoonymati!! lol :w00t:
Twitch - Anirhythm
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By AutoDidact - 2 Years Ago
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Just curious, but will they ban AI generated music from sights like Udio and how will they verify which music is “human created “ if they implement a ban.
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By planetstardragon - 2 Years Ago
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They have a DJ search database with all songs that are restricted in the system, and all the songs that are permitted. If you adhere to their rules, then you are protected in their system, but they also make clear that if you go beyond their database, they can't guarantee any protection. I think what they are doing is focusing on what they have contractually agreed on with the music industry, but if you step our of what they've agreed on, you are an open target - so if for example some music attorneys have people watching the streams looking out for AI music - then you are open game. - I imagine how that would then play out, is that some labels are actively in lawsuits with some of these AI music generating apps, and if the AI music being played is associated with any of the services generating AI music - then you are part of that litigation and subject to cancellation or worse.
This implied by twitches rules - in that if you don't follow their rules exactly, you are open to trouble. - Attorney's can and will do this, in fact I once was given a hit list like that before AI was a thing - the idea was to search for unlicensed loops in new music, but we never followed through on searching for infringers, so i imagine lists like this exists now for AI music.
Article on the AI lawsuits - https://time.com/6991466/record-labels-sue-ai-music-generator-startups/
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By GxBlue - 2 Years Ago
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Sounds cool, but it looks like your channel doesn't have any saved broadcasts right now. Could you share some of your work? I'd really like to see your shows.
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By planetstardragon - 2 Years Ago
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unfortunately, that's one of the caveats - in the twitch dj program, VOD is disabled, as it was part of the agreement that allowed this program to happen. - Most of the tracks I play are usually strike free on youtube, copyright claim yes, copyright strike no, but the risk is that once saved as a file, someone can change their mind and copyright strike you there too. for example, someone buys a music catalog and decided to be a wet noodle about it, they change the rules on how they want their music played and strike you after the fact "under new management", even if it was already ok'd at one point, twitch has a contract and database so they will update their "do not play" database sooner than they will give you a copyright strike, youtube has a fear of the riaa and music litigation so youtube will favor claimant first. - The next plan of action would then be to save the mixes without visuals and post them to mixcloud - mixcloud is allowed to play everything because they pay for licenses directly with the writing societies, like any venue would with paying writing societies - Now, when you play it with video as a permanent recording - then it becomes a sync licensing issue thus 2 copyrights. Twitch on the other hand apparently made an agreement directly with the RIAA - and since it's a live stream, not a saved file, it bypasses the sync issue - but again, if someone decided to make issue of copyrighted visual content - you are open to strikes there too - so I use public domain materials - Gen AI art, Iclone / CTA art and graphic designs / aminations. - you could really have a ton of fun with the legal approach now - but risk getting involved in a greater war if you go outside the rules.
I was thinking, eventually when I record enough new music sets, I could program the software to stream the recorded sets back to back with the visuals, and keep the stream running 24/7 - but that's later down the road.- not trying to get in my isp radar just yet for continuous streaming activity. - which could open a whole other can of worms requiring a broadcast license. capitalists, ....amirite ?
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By GxBlue - 2 Years Ago
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Oh, that sounds harsh...
However, I really like your idea about simultaneous broadcasting with visuals. I’m looking forward to any updates, but no rush—take all the time you need!
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By planetstardragon - 2 Years Ago
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streaming a few pre-recorded sets now with some vintage footage - while I haven't set a schedule yet, I've been trying to keep a presence with some of the DJ sets I have to see what organic growth is on twitch, if I see a live audience growing then i could jump in and start mixing live - till then i'm enjoying my own shows and doing other stuff while it plays lol
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