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By JasonWynngard - 4 Years Ago
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Would love to see CC allowing users to place tear streaks on faces. Not tear drops, rather water/tears streaming from the eyes to the cheeks. Not preset faces but the tear streaks themselves for placement by the user.
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By planetstardragon - 4 Years Ago
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you can probably fake that with an animated roughness image -
basically wherever the roughness image is black, it gets shiny, like sweat or a tear -
for a still image, just draw a black tear drop shaped line on the roughness image, for an animated tear you'd need iclone and an mp4 ( or whatever format compatible ) of an animated black tear drop to simulate a moving shine in the roughness image settings.
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By JasonWynngard - 3 Years Ago
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Planetstardragon, thank you for replying and your advice. When working with animation, I will apply your roughness method. Right now, I'm trying to teach myself to use CC3 to produce DIY ebook covers. I have a huge amount to learn before becoming truly proficient doing that. Since I am working with placing the character into a static image, as often happens to me, I had a "What If" moment. So I hunted down a few free Photoshop water brushes (they work fine with my Paintshop Pro as well). After some trial and error, I figured out how to manipulate a preferred brush into tears. See image for the outcome for my effort. It's supposed to be Judas Iscariot realizing his grave error and just before hanging himself. I wish I could have found a suitable rope for him to drag along. While I found many ropes, none loose or long enough to suggest he was dragging it. But here are his tears.
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By wires - 3 Years Ago
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I don't know if you have the pack, but the "Realistic Human Skin" contains a Tears map.
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By JasonWynngard - 3 Years Ago
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Nope, didn't have it but just ordered the standalone version fr CC 2 minutes ago. Giving it a look see now. OK, played with the plugin for CC. Immediately noticed I have no Realistic Human Skin feature in my Acquired - Liquid panel. Nor anywhere else in CC that I can see. Nor do I see any provision for making tears. Hoping I didn't waste my money.
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By Peter (RL) - 3 Years Ago
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JasonWynngard (1/4/2021)
Nope, didn't have it but just ordered the standalone version fr CC 2 minutes ago. Giving it a look see now. OK, played with the plugin for CC. Immediately noticed I have no Realistic Human Skin feature in my Acquired - Liquid panel. Nor anywhere else in CC that I can see. Nor do I see any provision for making tears. Hoping I didn't waste my money.
Hi Jason
It seems you have only purchased the SkinGen Premium Plug-in. The pack Gerry was referring to is called "Realistic Human Skin" and can be found below. It is this pack that contains the Tear effect as well as many other similar SkinGen effects like blood, dirt etc.
https://www.reallusion.com/ContentStore/Character-Creator/Pack/Realistic-Human-Skin/default.html
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By JasonWynngard - 3 Years Ago
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Hi Jason
It seems you have only purchased the SkinGen Premium Plug-in. The pack Gerry was referring to is called "Realistic Human Skin" and can be found below. It is this pack that contains the Tear effect as well as many other similar SkinGen effects like blood, dirt etc.
https://www.reallusion.com/ContentStore/Character-Creator/Pack/Realistic-Human-Skin/default.html
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So in other words, Premium SkinGen isn't premium. You're selling SkinGen in bits and pieces. That's not a good approach to encouraging customer loyalty.
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By Peter (RL) - 3 Years Ago
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JasonWynngard (1/4/2021)
So in other words, Premium SkinGen isn't premium. You're selling SkinGen in bits and pieces. That's not a good approach to encouraging customer loyalty.
SkinGen Premium is very much premium because the powerful features it contains are not available in the basic free version.
So to try and explain a little better, the complete SkinGen Premium experience is made up of four parts which are described below. You have the SkinGen Premium Plug-in and then three add-on content packs with premade content. These three packs are Ultimate Morphs, Realistic Human Skin and Makeup & SFX. All parts can be purchased separately or in one 4 in 1 Bundle.
https://www.reallusion.com/character-creator/digital-human-skin-morph.html
So with the SkinGen Premium Plug-in alone you have the full toolset to create your own SkinGen content but it doesn't come with the premade content.
https://www.reallusion.com/character-creator/skingen-premium/default.html
While I understand it is frustrating, if you have purchased in error and wish to change to a pack or bundle, please do contact Customer Support and they will happily help you do so.
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By JasonWynngard - 3 Years Ago
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I purchased the plug-in on being advised I could make crying characters with it. This has proven to not be the case. Thus feel misled. I'll let this one slide but in the future will exercise ultra extreme caution with any plug-in purchase. Providing I purchase one at all.
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By animagic - 3 Years Ago
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You would still have the tools to do it, I believe, but getting it pre-made makes it easier. SkinGen is a sophisticated product and it takes a while to fully master it.
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By JasonWynngard - 3 Years Ago
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animagic (1/5/2021)
You would still have the tools to do it, I believe, but getting it pre-made makes it easier. SkinGen is a sophisticated product and it takes a while to fully master it.
Appreciate the comments and encouragement,animagic. Not sure if you mean pre-made crying faces or just the tears. If face, while I don't mind pre-made, that doesn't concern me now. I prefer my own faces that match appearance, character, and personality of who/what I'm trying to portray on book covers. The tears feature intrigued me because I'm now focusing on mostly Bible characters in moments of anguish (Balaam), remorse (David), incredible joy, stuff like that. The faces I use for input into Headshot are either DIY photos or suitable vintage images. If you mean just the tears, I will, of course, experiment with Premium SkinGen, but I think I can see I will often revert to using liquid brushes for tears instead of more frustration for a simple outcome. It appears SkinGen can create sweaty faces and body at least. That's something I will surely find a use for.
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By Peter (RL) - 3 Years Ago
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JasonWynngard (1/4/2021)
I purchased the plug-in on being advised I could make crying characters with it. This has proven to not be the case. Thus feel misled. I'll let this one slide but in the future will exercise ultra extreme caution with any plug-in purchase. Providing I purchase one at all.
Who advised you to buy the SkinGen Plug-in? Gerry (Wires) explained you needed the "Realistic Human Skin" pack. You wasn't advised in this thread to buy the SkinGen Plug-in so it is wrong to say you were misled. 
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By JasonWynngard - 3 Years Ago
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Peter (RL) (1/5/2021)
JasonWynngard (1/4/2021)
I purchased the plug-in on being advised I could make crying characters with it. This has proven to not be the case. Thus feel misled. I'll let this one slide but in the future will exercise ultra extreme caution with any plug-in purchase. Providing I purchase one at all.
Who advised you to buy the SkinGen Plug-in? Gerry (Wires) explained you needed the "Realistic Human Skin" pack. You wasn't advised in this thread to buy the SkinGen Plug-in so it is wrong to say you were misled.
Arguing a point of technically, I said "Thus feel mislead" I didn't flat out say I was misled. Feel, was, semantics is what it is, and I'm allowed to have my own feelings, surely. Let's end this before it becomes inconceivably silly. I'm letting it slide, remember?
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By 3DChick - 3 Years Ago
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Your Judas has great expression--truly despair and regret there--nice job!
On your original question about tears, you might look at some of the tear packs at Daz. You could bring them in via tranformer as cloth and then mess with the textures. Be sure it's not a "LIE" (layered image editor) product, because that will make it part of the skin map if it brings it in at all, but some are props or "clothing". There are also all sorts of ropes, and you could use the mesh editor to shape them in CC3.
:-)
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By JasonWynngard - 3 Years Ago
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Thank you, nelm2010. I'm still a novice at this kind of thing, so it's encouraging to see comments like yours. Truth is, all of RL forum also is encouraging despite any bumps. The rope, I'm willing to learn any DIY efforts. Fact is things like meshes, I'm a nitwit. But just as I did with clothing, I'll print out the tutorial instructions, add them to my CC3 notebook and give it a go. I learn best from printed material. Tears and rope, will be where I start on this. The tear actually, might not be too big an issue since I'm dealing static images (book cover) and it seems water brushes in Paintshop Pro does a decent job. I'm now experimenting with the fade(?) feature to make them transparent or semi transparent. Anyway, thank you again for the encouragement.
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