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By Eric C (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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iClone v7.8 ( 7.8.4315.1) Release - July 22nd, 2020
Dear iCloners,
The long wait ends now, follow to links below for newly updated features:
IC 7.8 Embedded Contents Update- [Project] One project added: Explore SSS feature on props
- [Materials Library] 32 SSS materials added.
- New iMaterial category in the Content Manager- Media\Material to save/load any individual materials, eg. SSS material for props, or digital human shader for skin.
- [Character] Two CC3+ sample characters (Caleb and Katherine) are added , and two characters (Kevin and Jody) are converted for CC3+ base
- [Cloth] Nine clothes optimized for CC3+ base.
- [CC Shoes] Four shoes optimized for CC3+ base.
- [CC eyes] 12 eyes optimized for CC3+ base.
- [CC teeth] Six teeth thumbnail adjusted.
- [CC hair] One hair added and one hair parameter adjusted.
- [Motion] 46 motions enhanced or removed due to version update.
- [Hands] 71 hands gesture optimized for CC3+ base.
- [Atmosphere] 27 items added for CC3+ base (+DH_ means lighting enhanced for CC3+ Digital Human shader)
- [Light Room] 26 Light Rooms added or revised (for GI setting purpose)
Visit website: www.reallusion.com/iclone/content.html
Compatibility with Character Creator 3.3
iClone 7.8 is fully compatible with the upgraded CC3+ characters from Character Creator 3.3.
Explore more CC3+ features:
Enhanced Rendering
Several render improvement are listed here - Optimized Micro Roughness rendering with better grey levels and high contrast ratios that yield more micro details. See the before & after images below:
- When we released SSS shaders in IC 7.7 and CC 3.2, many of you have wanted us to expand this feature to props and other assets. We took note, and now the SSS shaders are available for props, accessories, hair, non-human, and non-standard characters.
- Manual fix for semi-transparent artifacts is now available. (Hardware support required: Win 10 & Nvidia Geforce 900 and above)
Route: Preference > Real-time Render Options > Order-independent Transparency.
Before and after:
A total of five render visual defects have been fixed:- Fixed: Unexpected flickering occurs in certain projects that contain a reflective prop and a dummy object during playback. (#FT6678)
- Fixed: Improper default project Global Illumination settings: Diffuse > Bouse Strength set too low and Specular > Tracing deactivated, makes it impossible for props to receive the Global Illumination effect. (#FT6593)
- Fixed: Once a particle effect is given a glow texture, its glow effect can not be occluded and has a tendency to emit through blocking objects. (#FT6573)
- Fixed:Water does not properly reflect a character's hair and eyelashes that carry semi-transparent opacity maps when Sky is shown. (#FT6416)
- Fixed: 3D stereo videos exported from certain projects only have one side of the screen with the camera's depth of field effect (Render > 3D Stereo > Side by Side). (#FT6454)
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By Eric C (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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Animation Enhancement Redesign for the Hand Gesture Control
Now you can have much smoother hand gesture controls by dragging over different parts of the hand gizmo. Try using circular mouse movement to clearly see the improvements.
New and fixed quadrant pose performances. Implement quadrant blending. Several finger joints can be controlled at a time (multi-selection does not work for the palms). All finger joints can be adjusted.
#before
#after
A total of five animation defects have been fixed:
- Fixed: Motion recorded from Motion Puppet > Move is not stabilized and has a slight forward and back jittering. (#FT6965, partially fixed)
- Fixed: Curve Editor track is unselectable with touch screens, with the keyboard up and down arrows as the only viable workaround. (#FT6625)
- Fixed: Results from Modify > Animation > Face Key > Expression > Style were not ideal for some characters. These have been updated for CC3 Base+ characters. (#FT6582)
- Fixed: Moving the camera transform key in the Timeline causes a change of direction in the key's path trajectory that leads up to it. (#FT6093)
- Fixed: Difficult to tell which label belongs to which slider in the Animation > Face Key > Modify panel.
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By Eric C (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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Character Enhancement
Pose Offset for Pose & Motion Correction
New Pose Offset feature is introduced in both iClone and Character Creator, and this feature will fix the slight motion discrepancies between different character generations. For example, if you feel the character tends to raise shoulder no matter what motion being applied, you can use "lower shoulder" to fix this problem. Preset data will be stored in the character for permanent correction.
You can find the Pose Offset tool in the Modify panel. You will also find various presets available for fast posture correction.
Example: Slacker
Applying general animation to characters with extremely exaggerated proportions can yield to undesirable results.
Take the embedded character Slacker as an example, because of his large hands, applying motions to him often caused his hands to penetrate into his own body, in this case you may want to add "elbow out" to offset the pose or motion.
Slacker character left (No Pose Offset) vs right (With Pose Offset) Slacker on the right side does not experience mesh penetration with the oversized hands.
Left (No Pose Offset) vs right (With Pose Offset) Fat character on the right side has the shoulders raised which does not cause the hands to penetrate the body.
Example: CC3 Base+ Male Character Left (No Pose Offset) vs right (With Pose Offset) Shoulders of the character to the right are lower.
One issue has been addressed for characters:
- Fixed: Mesh deformation for certain characters imported into iClone. (#FT6705)
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By Eric C (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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Pipeline Enhancement
For pipeline features, a total of two issues have been fixed:
- Fixed: iClone crashes when exporting certain characters FBX with the Unreal or Unity preset.
- Fixed: Exporting a FBX character with the Unity preset changes the names of the character's bones, but CC does not.
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By Eric C (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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Other IC 7.8 General Issues
One issue was addressed:
- Enhanced: Deleting items from the Content Manager will no longer delete them permanently, instead the items will be placed in the system's trash bin. Recovery of said items is possible with Windows > Recycle Bin > Restore.
Seven defects have been fixed: - Fixed: Loading files while the temp folder is full will cause the application to crash. File loading will now first check the available free space in the temp folder. For example, if the space available is less than 500 mb, then a message will appear.
- Fixed: Launching CC while the temp folder is full will cause the application to crash. File loading will now first check the available free space in the temp folder. For example, if the space available is less than 500 mb, then a warning message will appear.
- Fixed: iClone randomly crashes while baking IBL maps of 4K resolution or above. (#FT6659)
- Fixed: iClone crashes when IES profiles are applied to certain spotlights. (#FT6615)
- Fixed: The dialog window, that appears from double-clicking the material channel for texture change, freezes some of the time. (#FT6610)
- Fixed: Cannot re-assign .popvideo files when the texture is missing. The missing video file dialog browser can only accept video extensions.
- Fixed: Morphed props (Modify > Morph Animator) converted to terrain do not work properly with characters that have Foot Contact activated, failing to act as the contact surface for the bottom of the feet.
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By Eric C (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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Dear iCloners,
Leave us your comment and tell us how you like these new features!
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By Data Juggler - 5 Years Ago
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Trying them all out now. Looks great..
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By mrtobycook - 5 Years Ago
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Congratulations, RL team! :))
I’m having install issues but don’t want to ruin the fun - is there a thread specifically for install issues yet? I’ve restarted, stopped all processes, etc etc but am getting “install failed” type errors.
Sorry! :))) there’s always little bumps when complex new stuff comes out! But I can’t wait to try it all!
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By Peter (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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mrtobycook (7/23/2020)
is there a thread specifically for install issues yet? I’ve restarted, stopped all processes, etc etc but am getting “install failed” type errors.
Sorry! :))) there’s always little bumps when complex new stuff comes out! But I can’t wait to try it all!
The Character Creator 3.3 Issues Thread is HERE and the iClone 7.8 Issues Thread is HERE. Please post any install problems there. For bugs and other glitches please report in the Feedback Tracker first.
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By mr_vidius - 5 Years Ago
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well.. i hate to be a party pooper.. but the SSS project didn't install. where can i get it?
vidius
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By Peter (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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mr_vidius (7/23/2020)
well.. i hate to be a party pooper.. but the SSS project didn't install. where can i get it?
vidius
Just go into Smart Gallery > Free Resources and install or Update the "IC7 Demo Project Pack". This updated pack includes the SSS Demo project.
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By rdegoede333 - 5 Years Ago
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I am very happy with and exited by all the updates !!! Thank you Reallusion, for the effort, creativity, pushing the enveloppe and listening to your costumers.
Kind animation regards, Ronald
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By mr_vidius - 5 Years Ago
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Peter (RL) (7/23/2020)
mr_vidius (7/23/2020)
well.. i hate to be a party pooper.. but the SSS project didn't install. where can i get it?
vidiusJust go into Smart Gallery > Free Resources and install or Update the "IC7 Demo Project Pack". This updated pack includes the SSS Demo project.
okay.. did that. still nothing. now what?
vidius
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By nealtucker - 5 Years Ago
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Just to say to the Reallusion team, you did a great job with this update, also loving the smart gallery as I've not used it much, this has made things much easier to navigate to the content and install content as well.
Very pleased.......Now looking forward to the major iClone updates.........we may be able to drop or scale back the use of Unreal...probably not completely though, they have extremely deep pockets for investments and now with a big trend and push for their real-time VR and AR they seem set.
Maybe Iclone could implement VR one day?
N.
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By ahingel - 5 Years Ago
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the SSS project and the materials folder didnt install :(
im gonna cry
its what i was waiting the most hahaaha
ok now that i installed smart gallery and redownloaded the ic7 demo project they appeared
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By Peter (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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mr_vidius (7/23/2020)
okay.. did that. still nothing. now what?
vidius
The SSS Demo project is most definitely in the updated "IC7 Demo Project Pack" (see below).
If it isn't showing up then it hasn't been updated correctly. Try uninstalling that particular resource pack and install it again.
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By mr_vidius - 5 Years Ago
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Peter (RL) (7/23/2020)
mr_vidius (7/23/2020)
okay.. did that. still nothing. now what?
vidiusThe SSS Demo project is most definitely in the updated "IC7 Demo Project Pack" (see below). If it isn't showing up then it hasn't been updated correctly. Try uninstalling that particular resource pack and install it again.
so sorry Peter. you say it's there, but it is not showing up. i uninstalled, then installed. 3 times.
and still nothing. any suggestions?
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By theschemer - 5 Years Ago
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I had the same issue but I wasn't running the Smart Gallery. So I installed it and let it run. It still took a few minutes to find it, but it's there. I had to play around but figured it out so keep looking.
TS
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By mr_vidius - 5 Years Ago
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theschemer (7/23/2020)
I had the same issue but I wasn't running the Smart Gallery. So I installed it and let it run. It still took a few minutes to find it, but it's there. I had to play around but figured it out so keep looking.
TS
interesting. but how did you install it without smart gallery?
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By Amper Sand - 5 Years Ago
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mr_vidius (7/23/2020)
theschemer (7/23/2020)
I had the same issue but I wasn't running the Smart Gallery. So I installed it and let it run. It still took a few minutes to find it, but it's there. I had to play around but figured it out so keep looking.
TS
interesting. but how did you install it without smart gallery?
It think he was referring of installing Smart Gallery.
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By theschemer - 5 Years Ago
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Yes, I was referring to installing the Smart Gallery as I had not ever tried it until today as I had to, to download the SSS pack. :) If you look at the image Peter posted you will see the Smart Gallery tab and the Packages selected. But, in my case the IClone 7 Demo Pack Project shows up on the right side column. Find it and double click on it, then scroll to the bottom of the right column and the SSS is at the bottom of the list.
Hope that helps,
TS
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By jlittle - 5 Years Ago
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Hmm, I didn't see the SSS project either so I uninstalled and reinstalled the "IC7 Demo Project Pack" and it still didn't show up.
Jeff
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By mr_vidius - 5 Years Ago
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theschemer (7/23/2020)
Yes, I was referring to installing the Smart Gallery as I had not ever tried it until today as I had to, to download the SSS pack. :) If you look at the image Peter posted you will see the Smart Gallery tab and the Packages selected. But, in my case the IClone 7 Demo Pack Project shows up on the right side column. Find it and double click on it, then scroll to the bottom of the right column and the SSS is at the bottom of the list. Hope that helps, TS
well. it does not even show up at all. i checked the project folder, as if it did download, it should be in there. but no.
no sign of it. i'm left wondering.. what else did not download.
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By jlittle - 5 Years Ago
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I had shutdown iClone for a few minutes and then restarted it.
I clicked on the iC7 Demo projects in the Smart Gallery and it came up with an update notice.
After updating it now shows up.
Jeff
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By theschemer - 5 Years Ago
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Well, I am new to the Smart Gallery so I can't help there. But what I did notice (and will ask in the appropriate forum later) is I need to better understand how it works. :D After I bought the Ultimate pack and opened both the CC3 and IClone 7.8 and clicked update on the Smart Gallery it was really fast to complete. I am assuming it just syncs up the purchased content with your account but does NOT download any of it until you need it. So I just use the RLDownloader and do it manually and then answer "Backup and Replace" when the downloader says some of the content already exists. I do this so I don't lose anything that was named the same by accident over the years. Then later when I get around to it I look in the folders on my drive and see what is "really" an exact duplicate and delete accordingly.
TS
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By perrijk - 5 Years Ago
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Everything looks good. Do have question about the new spring effect for the spine. I cannot seem to see any change in the motions whether on or off. I am very pleased with the new mesh and the control over is much improved.
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By Peter (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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mr_vidius (7/23/2020)
[quote][b]
so sorry Peter. you say it's there, but it is not showing up. i uninstalled, then installed. 3 times.
and still nothing. any suggestions?
If you are still having problems with the SSS Demo project not appearing, try right clicking the "IC7 Demo Project Pack" in Smart Gallery and check if there is an Update option. If there is then clicking that option should show what is being updated like in the example image below. The new addition for the IC7 Demo Project Pack is the SSS Demo project.
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By toystorylab - 5 Years Ago
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By mr_vidius - 5 Years Ago
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Peter (RL) (7/24/2020)
mr_vidius (7/23/2020)
[quote][b]
so sorry Peter. you say it's there, but it is not showing up. i uninstalled, then installed. 3 times.
and still nothing. any suggestions? If you are still having problems with the SSS Demo project not appearing, try right clicking the "IC7 Demo Project Pack" in Smart Gallery and check if there is an Update option. If there is then clicking that option should show what is being updated like in the example image below. The new addition for the IC7 Demo Project Pack is the SSS Demo project.
there is no update option.
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By JimmyB7 - 5 Years Ago
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To get my SSS Demo to install I had to “Uninstall Content” fromthe “IC7 Demo Project Pack” using Smart Gallery. Close iClone. Clear all files that can be deleted from the Window’s “Temp” folder. Open iClone again, and reinstall IC7 DemoProject Pack. The SSS Demo Project thenfinally showed up.
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By mr_vidius - 5 Years Ago
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JimmyB7 (7/26/2020)
To get my SSS Demo to install I had to “Uninstall Content” fromthe “IC7 Demo Project Pack” using Smart Gallery. Close iClone. Clear all files that can be deleted from the Window’s “Temp” folder. Open iClone again, and reinstall IC7 DemoProject Pack. The SSS Demo Project thenfinally showed up.
well now. thanks you! i gave your plan a shot, and it worked. the SS project showed up.
thank you. i was starting to pull my hair out of my head on this one. not that i have much left. :D
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By mtakerkart - 5 Years Ago
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The SSS shader doesn't support opacity . I tried opacity with texture and opacity with the opacity mesh but the result is on or off...
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By Eric C (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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Hi @mtakerkart,
You are right about this. The opacity is not supported in our SSS Shader.
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By mark - 5 Years Ago
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For me...I Uninstalled the iC7 Demo Project Pack from the Smart Gallery., closed iC7 restarted iC7 and then reinstalled the Demo Pack in the Smart Gallery and the SSS demo was in the pack at that point.;)
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By Eric C (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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Hi @toystorylab,
For non-standard characters, you can adjust them with T-pose with our 3DXchange.
Hope that helps :-)
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By toystorylab - 5 Years Ago
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Yo, thanx...
Already did that, but inside iClone would have been more convenient.
But no problem so far...;)
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By virtualfilmer - 5 Years Ago
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Hi everyone :-)
The embedded character "Caleb" certainly looks much worse in the iClone viewport than I was expecting - and the iRay render is just awful.
Anyone know what's going on here?
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By zoralarousse - 5 Years Ago
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Hi Everyone,
I updated iClone to 7.8. I am searching for sss Shader project and I found nothing. In tab "Content", selected icone "Project", Project template, I have not the directory SSS Shader like on the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywg5BmwvGO8&feature=emb_rel_end 0:53
I tried to do again the synchronize but nothing new happens.
Somebody have an idea ?
Thank you very much.
Nadine
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By Peter (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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zoralarousse (8/3/2020)
Hi Everyone, I updated iClone to 7.8. I am searching for sss Shader project and I found nothing. In tab "Content", selected icone "Project", Project template, I have not the directory SSS Shader like on the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywg5BmwvGO8&feature=emb_rel_end 0:53 I tried to do again the synchronize but nothing new happens. Somebody have an idea ? Thank you very much. Nadine
Please read through the previous pages of this thread. There is lots of advice on how to get the SSS Demo Project to show up.
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By 4u2ges - 5 Years Ago
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virtualfilmer (7/31/2020)
Hi everyone :-) The embedded character "Caleb" certainly looks much worse in the iClone viewport than I was expecting - and the iRay render is just awful. Anyone know what's going on here?
Iray render in IClone with recommendations outlined here: https://forum.reallusion.com/453467/iRay-broken-with-new-CC33-update-dark-red-skin
Plus special lights setup..
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By Eric C (RL) - 5 Years Ago
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Thanks @Peter and @4u2ges for the explanation and links!
Eric
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By Ascensi - 5 Years Ago
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SSS mode doesn't seem to work with opacity which is needed for water and liquids in general... I noticed that refraction enabled also disabled opacity .. are these bugs? if opacity hasn't been added to the SSS spec for compatibility with opacity is this something Reallusion is working on/can commit to? thanks. I was thinking I wouldn't need to use Iray SSS if iClone SSS can be setup in iClone and work with Iray with Opacity :)
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By mtakerkart - 5 Years Ago
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@Ascensi
https://forum.reallusion.com/FindPost452512.aspx
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By HooDooPhonix - 5 Years Ago
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wasnt there supposed to be improved viseme suport in english and german?
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By StyleMarshal - 5 Years Ago
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yes , coming with IC7.9
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