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By shadybearbklyn - 6 Years Ago
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I'm having an issue with LIVE FACE mocap. I'm connected via WIFI and it doesn't seem to be tracking correctly. Puckering and frowning hardly make a difference to the mesh on the iPhone. I have no problem cleaning up mocap, but I want to make sure I'm initially capturing the data in the best way possible. I've attached a video of a quick test. I thought that maybe a USB connection would be better, but no matter what I try it won't connect. [YouTube]The YouTube web page URL for the video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWUgEdUG3oY [/YouTube]
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By Kelleytoons - 6 Years Ago
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This doesn't look like a video, just a still image. But in any case, I would recommend connecting via ethernet (you'll need an iPhone ethernet adapter, which you can get for around $40). I get excellent results that way.
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By shadybearbklyn - 6 Years Ago
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Here's the link to the video Mike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWUgEdUG3oY
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By new-own - 6 Years Ago
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Yeah I am having the same problems. Not smooth, delayed animation, frame drops and skipping, and so on.
I can't seem to figure out the cause. I will let you know as soon as I solve this.
Here in the forum or anywhere else, you won't get any help. You have to figure things out on your own. That's my experience.
There is only Kelleytoons... but he told me to that I ask so many questions once I asked a question for the first time I ever post any. :S
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By Kelleytoons - 6 Years Ago
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First of all, there isn't only me -- lots of folks help around here. And you can *always* put a trouble ticket in to RL and they WILL get back to you with help. Here in the forum we users are the first line of defense as a rule but RL is there and very responsive.
And -- sorry I don't know what you're talking about "asking too many questions". Did I not attempt to help you? I always try and answer whatever but I'm an old man and sometimes I'm not in the greatest of health (not that that's an excuse but if I act grumpy at times perhaps it was a bad day). If you are having trouble getting some ANIMATION (as opposed to capture -- remember that the capture itself may look jerky but that's not the ultimate test. The ultimate test is what happens when you render out the animation you made. THAT should look smooth) we can investigate a lot of things.
And, Shadybear -- that animation you posted to (sorry if I never saw it) -- it DOES look jerky. Did you render to frames? You really need to render to individual frames and we would also need to know the FPS you were using. There are SO many factors in this stuff it's sometimes a long process to pin it all down.
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By animagic - 6 Years Ago
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I believe new-own is just disgruntled...:unsure: Everyone on the forum that helps out does so voluntarily and is not obligated to to so. Sometimes also, when you help out you never hear back, so that becomes discouraging.
Besides Kelley, Rampa and 4u2ges help a lot and many others do too, including myself.
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By Dan Miller - 6 Years Ago
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I would like to help more but I still don't know much :)
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By Kelleytoons - 6 Years Ago
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animagic (5/17/2020)
Besides Kelley, Rampa and 4u2ges help a lot and many others do too, including myself.
I didn't think he was just saying I was the only one helping on the forums, but that with an issue with Live Face I was the only one responding. Which may or may not have been true but still isn't all that important (we all have areas that either interest us more or are more in our wheelhouse of expertise). But, honestly, in those situations a trouble ticket to RL (where Rampa will most likely get involved anyway) is the best solution.
But thanks for giving some perspective -- there are times I do feel I'm not responsive enough but lately my energy levels have been WAY down (health but, as I said, no excuse. If I am to participate here I need to bring my best, or just not bother being here).
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By shadybearbklyn - 6 Years Ago
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I finally got my IPhone connected via USB and the capture is much better than WIFI. In order to connect an IPhone you need to have cell service. Although it’s connected via WIFI, the PC sees it as an Ethernet connection and without cell service, the PC does not recognize the connection. You do not need service once it’s connected, but without it you cannot connect via WIFI. Regarding the rendering, where do you select render to frames? I have render quality set to Final Render with super sampling. If the FPS is low when playing back, is that how it will render? I have a scene that runs at about 40 FPS in quick mode, but drops down to 12 FPS when set to High. One other thing. I posted this a few times and reached out to Reallusion, but haven’t figured out the issue yet. When I try to copy and paste a single frame from a single body part from the motion layer, it takes around 40 seconds to paste it. If I delete the viseme track, it takes about 3 seconds to paste the same frame.
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By Kelleytoons - 6 Years Ago
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You select render to PNG, and then render a sequence.
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By shadybearbklyn - 6 Years Ago
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Hey Mike,
I don’t see that option anywhere.
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By Kelleytoons - 6 Years Ago
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Stills (or whatever it's called), PNG, and then sequence (sigh -- do I *really* need to boot iClone up? It shouldn't be THAT hard to find. But I will if you really don't see it).
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By shadybearbklyn - 6 Years Ago
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I see. You don’t do render video, you render image and choose PNG sequence. Why is there a render video option if you use render images to accomplish the same task?
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By Kelleytoons - 6 Years Ago
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If you render to video it will render either a compressed sequence or, if you use uncompressed (like an AVI) a HUGE file which you most likely can't use anyway (and will need to re-render to a codec later). The only real time you should be rendering to video is for test purposes -- the rest of the time you render to a sequence and use your video editor to edit, add audio/FX, etc.
The other advantage to rendering to a sequence is you can re-render only certain parts of it (if you make some changes, for example). Or, if it crashes, only render the part you need to to fix it.
I don't know of ANYONE serious about their work that renders to anything other than sequences.
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By shadybearbklyn - 6 Years Ago
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Thanks Mike. I’m new to this so all help is greatly appreciated.
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By shadybearbklyn - 6 Years Ago
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Thanks Mike. I’m new to this so all help is greatly appreciated.
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By Nick GlassB - 6 Years Ago
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I'm not sure if my expectations are realistic. I've got an ethernet cable coming today. Should I expect a big improvement on the lip sync? On WiFi it was comparable to the iclone built in auto version. Great for facial expression and brining "life" to the face but not so great for speech without a very big clean up?
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By Kelleytoons - 6 Years Ago
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We know that RL has announced a brand new lip sync system that ought to bring a lot of improvements to that part of the process. You'd still want to use facial mocap, for the expressions, but for the actual sync itself if it works as promised it ought to solve all those issues. Time will tell.
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By Nick GlassB - 6 Years Ago
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Yeah I'd forgotten about that, supposed to be in 7.9 which I believe is due any time now. Not seen any update on it since it was penned for Q3 this year. Hopefully won't be too long.
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