which green for a wall?


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By power - 15 Years Ago
Hi:

Posted at another forum, but this is directly related. Which green should I use to paint a wall to do the videos?

TIA

:)
By afterThought - 15 Years Ago
What I did was print off a square on my computer with R:0 G:255 B:0. Take it to your paint/home hardware store and ask if they can match it. Hope this helps :)
By mrjrm - 15 Years Ago
You can also save yourself the trouble of painting and go on eBay and purchase a Chromakey screen... Green/Blue... Just get the size you want (polyester is wrinkle free) and put it up and take it down whenever you want... Plus you can use it to cover items and sit on them to create the image that you are riding something (horse, motorcycle...). That's what I did... ;)
By jwm2002 - 15 Years Ago
I too purchased some background screens - both from B&H Photo:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=chroma+key+backgrounds&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

They also sell paint as well.

By Apparition - 15 Years Ago
The problem with green paint is: it is very difficult to pigment correctly.

Curiously, pure "green paint" should be VERY bright, almost lime color, just as said in here, the way you see a pure green 255 field on a tv monitor.

But the high luminosity of such paint cannot easily be produced because:    Paint or dye are what is called the "subtractive synthesis"     this means:  White light, reflected from a pure white surface, bounces back passing through the "dye" which filters the reflected light, removing all red and blue components.

Perfect green dyes are difficult, specially for wall paint.

O the other hand, colors as seen on a computer monitor are produced by "Additive synthesis":  Pure colored light is combined to produce the colors.   A totally green screen is produced by a transparent green filter (within the LCD mosaic) and a pure white back light behind the mosaic in the LCD screen.   So what we see is pure direct filtered light and not bounced back light.

In practical situations, where it is difficult to buy a green CK background, it is much easier to make a BLUE backing, with paint.   Blue dyes are much better and the results are almost perfect blue reflected light.

So...  What to do?     Is up to your choice and paint availability.

I go BLUE in my school lab, and we get good chroma out if it.   Also...  Blue contamination in the superimposed video is easier to correct than green spill.   Even a slightly blue contamination is not as bothersome as the green one.   Blueish pictures are more tolerated than greenish ones...

What do you think about it?

Mike

By animagic - 15 Years Ago
A very helpful explanation. Also, a blue wall in the house might be better tolerated by the wife... :P

One alternative to a green wall that I saw in a YouTube tutorial was using a green ping-pong table on its side. Would that work?
By Apparition - 15 Years Ago
He,he!:D

Playing ping pong with this table will be more difficult, but you can make one player lay on the ground and the other hanging with ropes from the roof.... :hehe:

Oh! I see... You wanted the table for a chroma key cyclorama! :w00t:}
I guess the ping pong table would do, but might have a white cross right on the image.

Better go blue. And paint the garage inner wall, green. You have then two choices. Don't paint the bathroom green... It might be good for esoteric bathroom pop videos, but wifey might "Pop-a-head" for doins such! :P

Mike
By animagic - 15 Years Ago
Mike, I hadn't thought about the garage! It will encourage me to clean it out, which WILL make wifey happy...
By Apparition - 15 Years Ago
Well! Your garage is coming to life. And a new PostProduction studio is born! Zuijlen Light and Magic!

Your bathroom is saved, wifey is happy and you will have green chroma on one side, blue on the other and white for any case, in the middle wall!

Cars are going to live on the street, and all junk in the garage is going to where it belongs... The junk yard!

Happiness is great! :D

Mike