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By jeffman1 - 5 Years Ago
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I know this seems like an odd question but I am doing a semi-realistic biblical game in unity and I am looking for the biblical philistine head piece. Does anyone know where I can buy or download that accessory for a character inside of character creator or I-clone? In addition, I am looking for clothing to match him (even the headpiece by itself would be great). I would really love it if someone made that to download here in the marketplace with goliath as a bonus that would be a few hundred dollar buy. I would create the headpiece but it seems like a pain in the neck to do so and time consuming (I'm using blender and have not taken many 3d art classes yet but only one in college and a few blender courses).
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By Kelleytoons - 5 Years Ago
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Can you show an image of that piece?
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By jeffman1 - 5 Years Ago
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Sorry for late reply was working a day job. Hoping to transition to game making but here is an example. I am trying to make the armor as well as the head piece.
 
That's an example, if you can do both be my guest. I prefer both. The shield and sword are easier to do but having something to go off of is great. If anyone knows of a 3d model already made of the above or similar please point me in the right direction.
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By gordryd - 5 Years Ago
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Not exactly what you are looking for, but you could probably use some of these elements:
https://www.reallusion.com/ContentStore/Character-Creator/Pack/Gladiator-Vol1/
https://www.reallusion.com/ContentStore/Character-Creator/Pack/Gladiator-Vol2/default.html
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By jeffman1 - 5 Years Ago
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I might be able to repurpose some of the weapons but the armor and headpiece is specific for both of my fighting armies. Maybe their might be a shield I can repurpose for one side. Look up philistine fluted helmet. Sometimes, I get the roman soldier one with the red looking piece that looks like a Mohawk.
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By Kelleytoons - 5 Years Ago
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Yeah, I find a ton of Roman mohawk helmets, but none of that particular... um, toilet scrubbing one <g>.
You might be able to repurpose one of these:
https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/21585
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By jeffman1 - 5 Years Ago
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I maybe able to repurpose some of the helmets. However, I guess I could make the whole thing from scratch in blender if I needed to. If you can find any of the armor they use for common Roman soldiers though I could definitely repurpose it because their armor was similar.
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By Kelleytoons - 5 Years Ago
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If you search the Daz website you'll find a lot of Roman armor (and some fantasy armor that might also be useful). Almost any of those pieces will work fine in CC3 through Transformer (and if you want to be sure just let me know which piece and I can test it out).
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By jeffman1 - 5 Years Ago
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Kelleytoons (3/25/2019)
If you search the Daz website you'll find a lot of Roman armor (and some fantasy armor that might also be useful). Almost any of those pieces will work fine in CC3 through Transformer (and if you want to be sure just let me know which piece and I can test it out).
I think I will repurpose the roman armor and do the head piece myself. Almost a 1/4 of the battles are with the philistines (not quite that much but going to be close). I made a good first time piece inside of blender already. Its just a cylinder with the top piece spread out but I will double check for roman gear first. I know their has to be similar roman armor that can be repurposed.
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By Delerna - 5 Years Ago
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Here is my attempt so far.
Still working on finishing off the texturing. Especially the hat
Also working on creating the other hat too
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By jeffman1 - 5 Years Ago
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A little bit more work on the armor and its usable bit overall its good work. I got the head piece I am working on but if your doing the same thing I cant wait. to see it. My hat may not have as much detail because my skills are not the same but I may be able to still make it look good. I'm looking forward to seeing what your working on.
Delerna (4/5/2019)
Here is my attempt so far. Still working on finishing off the texturing. Especially the hat Also working on creating the other hat too
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By Delerna - 5 Years Ago
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Thanks for your comments and recommendations and it may be something I will look into.
I do believe that the primary thing with 3D models is their texturing and I will be looking into that on the outfit soon. I may end up taking your advice but depends on what the texturing does to it.
For example here is the helmet with more texturing on it no change to the modelling. Textures and bump maps can add quite a bit of shaping to the model without using up more resources from more modelling.
The other good thing is the texturing abilities of CC appearance editing. So easy to adjust how a clothing model looks. Adding rust, dirtiness, seems, making different parts of the outfit look like metal, wood, leather etc etc.
I have also finished modelling the other helmet now. Need to texture it soon but looking into the outfit now. May model it some more depending on how the texturing goes. I wasn't going to texture it the same as your photo but I might look into that now just to be sure it can be made to look however it is wanted. Been thinking I may need to adjust the model roughness of the tunic but I have been thinking cloth flow would cover that as the character animates. I will be checking that out
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By jeffman1 - 5 Years Ago
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Delerna (4/6/2019)
Thanks for your comments and recommendations and it may be something I will look into. I do believe that the primary thing with 3D models is their texturing and I will be looking into that on the outfit soon. I may end up taking your advice but depends on what the texturing does to it. For example here is the helmet with more texturing on it no change to the modelling. Textures and bump maps can add quite a bit of shaping to the model without using up more resources from more modelling. The other good thing is the texturing abilities of CC appearance editing. So easy to adjust how a clothing model looks. Adding rust, dirtiness, seems, making different parts of the outfit look like metal, wood, leather etc etc. I have also finished modelling the other helmet now. Need to texture it soon but looking into the outfit now. May model it some more depending on how the texturing goes. I wasn't going to texture it the same as your photo but I might look into that now just to be sure it can be made to look however it is wanted. Been thinking I may need to adjust the model roughness of the tunic but I have been thinking cloth flow would cover that as the character animates. I will be checking that out
I would say that looks good. I got the helmet to look close to what I am looking for. Not like the photo because I am changing some things. I don't have the head holder for instance. Can I change the color of the head piece fibers in-game or would that break the model once imported into unity? I'm about to research the shield soon. If I get the shield done, I might be able to put Insignia on an assassin from the store and call it an archer. The rest of the characters for the philistine side I can use other models but need an Insignia to show difference between sides and not confuse people.
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By Delerna - 5 Years Ago
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Sorry I am getting old (63.5) and easily get confused with words and sentences lately.
I am guessing Can I change the color of the head piece fibres is the red hairish thing on top?
If that's what you mean I intend making that with 11 different colors by adjusting the texture.
Fortunately my texture editor makes it really easy to change the colors of things. Just click a button on the layer and I can repaint everything drown on that layer but it leaves the opacity parts alone.
As to using that in a game engine.....hmmm I haven't done much with game engines since I got into iClone. I used to be into game creation once upon a time but iClone took it over for me.
I do play a little with Unity still though and now that I am retired I might get back into it. As far as I am aware (been a while since I have done it) re-texturing models with Unities texturing abilities wouldn't break the model.
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By jeffman1 - 5 Years Ago
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Delerna (4/6/2019)
Sorry I am getting old (63.5) and easily get confused with words and sentences lately.
I am guessing Can I change the color of the head piece fibres is the red hairish thing on top?
If that's what you mean I intend making that with 11 different colors by adjusting the texture.
Fortunately my texture editor makes it really easy to change the colors of things. Just click a button on the layer and I can repaint everything drown on that layer but it leaves the opacity parts alone.
As to using that in a game engine.....hmmm I haven't done much with game engines since I got into iClone. I used to be into game creation once upon a time but iClone took it over for me.
I do play a little with Unity still though and now that I am retired I might get back into it. As far as I am aware (been a while since I have done it) re-texturing models with Unities texturing abilities wouldn't break the model.
I need the modeling experience anyways for the head piece. I have not done 3d modeling in awhile. I have to do both the Isreali and philistine sides for the game. The helmet pieces for the Isreali side are going to be different and they have different shields too. Either way, the armor is important because I might be able to reuse it or repurpose it for the other side.
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By jeffman1 - 5 Years Ago
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I posted what I have on the head piece part but if you have something better I'll use it. I only need to flatten some surfaces more, cut the top part of the mesh used for reference/create a hair mesh out of blenders particle system to add in (they have a hair option and it will make the top part look way better), and add in the indentions/jewels if any. Sorry for confusion, you've done a great job and I was just comparing the helmets as I might still use yours (I might use it on the Israeli side with some modifications or for another character in the game) .
jeffman1 (4/8/2019)
Delerna (4/6/2019)
Sorry I am getting old (63.5) and easily get confused with words and sentences lately.
I am guessing Can I change the color of the head piece fibres is the red hairish thing on top?
If that's what you mean I intend making that with 11 different colors by adjusting the texture.
Fortunately my texture editor makes it really easy to change the colors of things. Just click a button on the layer and I can repaint everything drown on that layer but it leaves the opacity parts alone.
As to using that in a game engine.....hmmm I haven't done much with game engines since I got into iClone. I used to be into game creation once upon a time but iClone took it over for me.
I do play a little with Unity still though and now that I am retired I might get back into it. As far as I am aware (been a while since I have done it) re-texturing models with Unities texturing abilities wouldn't break the model.
I need the modeling experience anyways for the head piece. I have not done 3d modeling in awhile. I have to do both the Isreali and philistine sides for the game. The helmet pieces for the Isreali side are going to be different and they have different shields too. Either way, the armor is important because I might be able to reuse it or repurpose it for the other side.
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