WIP Aging Generator


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By Colonel_Klink - 6 Years Ago
While I have been struggling with getting back into modeling I have been working on an aging substance which will allow various levels of aging from partial to full face. At present the plan is to create an aging package for both CC2 and CC3 characters
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Jerome before aging effects

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Jerome after several aging effects are added.
By animagic - 6 Years Ago
I think this looks quite promising. People have been asking for aging effects or morphs recently.
By toystorylab - 6 Years Ago
Wow, that looks quite convincing...
Good job!

By justaviking - 6 Years Ago
Nice!  Smile
By sonic7 - 6 Years Ago

Impressive! I think you're doing well ....
I was reading (somewhere) - just a few days back - that *certain* body parts grow more (than others), with the aging process.
I *think* it was the nose and ears (possibly others), but it's interesting that this sort of 'imbalanced' growth it a tell tale sign of age (I assume even 'wrinkles' aside).
Nice work ! ....
By wires - 6 Years Ago
Bob,
Good to see you back again. This WIP looks very promising. SmileCool
By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
Progress is.. er... progressing.... Quite well in fact. Here's some wip pics to show I'm not slacking Smile

CC2 Aging Generator version 0.011
- 20 preset base aging bump maps
- 10 (so far) different facial detail areas (pores, wrinkles etc) each comprising a number of adjustable settings
- most settings are accumulative allowing for a variety of aging
Expected release date: TBA

WIP (being created in tandem with CC2 Aging Generator) CC3 Aging Generator that can be implemented inside Iclone 7


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Basic age bump map from character Creator


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Custom aging from CC2 Age Generator using a variety of integrated bump maps

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With Ambient Occlusion applied.

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A variant of aging from the tool

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Can be applied to all  CC2 characters from within Iclone 6 & 7. Does work inside Character Creator 2 & 3

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Mild aging applied to caricature

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A combination of sculpting, graph making in Substance Designer, fine tuning bump maps in Photoshop and making its way to Iclone CC2 Characters.

By toystorylab - 5 Years Ago
Looks great!
Want it in my toolkit... Smile
By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
Progress coming along for the CC3 Aging Generator (CC3 AgeGen). Still more tinkering and fine tuning to the substance to be done.


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By wires - 5 Years Ago
Do continue tinkering, this is looking really good. CoolSmoooothSmile
By mark - 5 Years Ago
Yep, I think you're on to something!!!! BigGrin Wink
By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
Just a quickie render showing a combination of skin texture and it's converted normal map merged with one of the 20 base face bump maps in AgeGen CC3
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By argus1000 - 5 Years Ago
I'm gonna grab it when it comes out, for sure.
By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
Combining facial feature morphs and the CC2 Age Generator. The results are...

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By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
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By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
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By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
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By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
Progress has been slow mainly because I'm learning a new 3D app called Rocket 3F, which has a free and pro version. Anyway I'm still tinkering with the age generator and working on ensuring that the shadow effects in iclone are not  too harsh on the custom normal maps. Anyway here is an update pic with one of the character morphs which will be in the release.
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Incidentally the cloth vest in that pic was created in Rocket 3F and converted in Character Creator 3

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By animagic - 5 Years Ago
Looks better and better. There was just a question about age wrinkles in another thread, so there certainly is an interest in your product.

I had never heard of Rocket 3F; something else to check out.
By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
CC2 Age Generator (AgeGen) has taken a while due to circumstances beyond my control. However I'm getting closer to a beta release of CC2 AgeGen for CC3.

One of the biggest challenges has been to work the Generator seamlessly with the Appearance Editor in CC3. It's not perfected yet, but as you can see by the screenshots I have posted here AgeGen is quite serviceable.

As AgeGen will be a continual work in progress (i.e. be worked on to improve it over time) it will be included free in a set of Age Generator sliders which includes 30+ head morphs plus various other head related sliders I've created over time. The package will also include 20 CC3 (in CC1 format) character projects as well as several other iClone avatar characters. Although not properly tested in iClone 7 AgeGen should work with CC1 (CC2) characters. The library will be available in the marketplace at a reasonable cost.

Work on CC3 AgeGen is ongoing, but until the Appearance Editor is functioning for CC3 characters CC1 characters can be converted after morphing and Cc2 AgeGen has been applied.

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By 3DChick - 5 Years Ago
Just chiming in to say YAY for this product! I use a lot of aging morphs on my Daz characters and am finding it tough to replicate those effects in CC3. Can't wait!
:-)
By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
Had not thought of the Daz to Iclone conversions. Will look into seeing how AgeGen will work  on them. Interestingly my first iClone experiments were with Daz characters, when CC1 was first released.
By Colonel_Klink - 5 Years Ago
Images from the AgeGen User Manual being prepared at the moment
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By toystorylab - 5 Years Ago
Cool...
Impatient w00t