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By Ola(RL) - 8 Years Ago

Cartoon Animator 4 - 360 Head Creator

Dear All

This WIP 2 shows how Reallusion breaks through the limitations of 2D Art, and delivers a practical way for 2D animators to create characters with advanced animation along with vivid expressions. The 360 evolution streamlines the workflow for Head Creation, Expression Setup, and directly to the animation core with face key editing, puppeteering and the timeline system. Apart from introducing a set of 360 assets and new professional animation library, users also have the path to convert existing content into 360 heads with a full range of motion.

Know More About Cartoon Animator 4

With the new feature "360 Head Creator" of Cartoon Animator 4, you can easily turn a 2D art into a 3D animation.

Find out what "Smart IK" can do.

Quickly Transform a 2D Face into a 3D Head

Full Featured 360 Head Creator

Photoshop 360 Creation Pipeline

360 Performance Systems

Cartoon Animator 4 - Smart IK

This WIP 1 demonstrates how Reallusion made 2D Character Animation more precise, powerful, yet more intuitive. Say goodbye to foot sliding, sinking or floating problems, the new Smart IK/FK system not only switches automatically, it makes creating amazing cartoon animation so much easier. Posing with locking end effectors gives you power to precisely animate characters with scene interaction. In addition, you can perfectly adapt motion files with different body shapes from our motion library, even fine-tune the character's stride or alter its motion genre.

Know More About Cartoon Animator 4

With the new feature "Smart IK" of Cartoon Animator 4, you can do IK/FK animation without actually learning the complex concept and it takes only 1/4 of the time what other animation software needed.
Find out what "Smart IK" can do.

Smart IK (Inverse Kinematic)

Easy IK Editing: No more foot sliding, sinking, or floating problems. Easy-locking feet and hands for unlimited motion possibilities.

Intuitive Auto IK/FK Switch: Drag-and-move end effectors for IK editing, directly rotate joins for FK editing. Other animation software may take hours to do this, Cartoon Animator needs only end effector on/off clicks.

Stretch Animation: Enable animation creation with more diversity by freely extend any character’s end segments - head, hands and feet.

Precise Scene and Prop Interaction: Works for all kind of motion behavior. Lock hands and feet to precisely interact with scene objects.

Works with All Kinds of Cartoon Characters: Correct backward knee bend animation for quadruped animals.

Smart Motion Retargeting

Adapt Motions to any Character Scale: Works with all Template-based Motion - human biped, quadruped, wings, spine bone.

Creative IK Motion Varieties: Auto-align character bones to the Motion Data pose, regardless of the character’s initial pose setting.

Create IK Rig

Auto IK Rig: Imported Photoshop Template Characters will have IK rig automatically to save creation time. Still, you have the freedom to add IK locks to selected bone segments.

Custom GUI: Snapshot a character with a custom pose to create a Character Rig GUI.

Let me show you what Reallusion team had created with this new feature.
THIS IS ONLY SHARED TO FORUM MEMBERS, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES TO SEE THEM.
Welcome to spread.

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Looks like you can customize your own animated stickers with Cartoon Animator.

How to get Cartoon Animator 4 special offer?

I already have CTA3:

Any purchases made from the Reallusion Content Store with the accrued order value of over $299 in the period between December 1st to the 31st of 2018 will qualify you to a fee copy of CTA4 - Pipeline Edition.
Upgrade to CTA4 with the member price upon its official release.

Know More

I do not have CTA3:

Buy CTA3 Pro or Pipeline Bundles and Get a free copy of CTA4 Pro or Pipeline
Plus Monthly Exclusive Bonus
This Software Store Offer is available from Nov. 28th 2018 through CTA4 launch
2018 Holiday Exclusive Bonus ($79 value) ends on Dec. 31st 2018

Know More

By hcameron90 - 8 Years Ago

Well This is amazing and just what we needed...thanks Reallusion.

By danmo30400 - 8 Years Ago

More one step to become number 1 :

Please add other languages, as french, spanish...

Or at least, language string resource in separate file. So third people can translate for you.

By justaviking - 8 Years Ago

It talks about the ability to interface with PhotoShop.

Does it need to be PhotoShop, or will GIMP work too?

By obenkyounuma - 8 Years Ago

Why December 2018?

I purchased Crazy Talk Animater 3 the day before yesterday.

And I bought additional content today.

By jann - 8 Years Ago

Looking great! But the pricing is very confusing!! What is the upgrade price from CAT3 to CA4?

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

justaviking (11/28/2018)

It talks about the ability to interface with PhotoShop.

Does it need to be PhotoShop, or will GIMP work too?

It's still early days and not yet confirmed, but like CTA3 you will likely just need an image editor compatible with PSD files and layers.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

obenkyounuma (11/28/2018)

Why December 2018?

I purchased Crazy Talk Animater 3 the day before yesterday.

And I bought additional content today.

Unfortunately there has to be a start date and there will always be some customers who purchase just before a new promotion starts.

However if you have any concerns, please contact Customer Support and they will be able to help you with any questions about eligibility for this pre-order promotion.

Note: Any content you purchase will still be usable in Cartoon Animator 4.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

jann (11/28/2018)

Looking great! But the pricing is very confusing!! What is the upgrade price from CAT3 to CA4?

This is a pre-order promotion aimed primarily at new customers.

Existing CTA users can either buy the required amount of content to get a free copy of Cartoon Animator 4, or can just upgrade in the normal way once CTA4 is released.

By LPmoviestvs - 8 Years Ago

Peter (RL) this is not out to late next year right how long will the price say like that before it go up just arking

By jann - 8 Years Ago

Peter (RL) (11/28/2018)
This is a pre-order promotion aimed primarily at new customers.
Existing CTA users can either buy the required amount of content to get a free copy of Cartoon Animator 4, or can just upgrade in the normal way once CTA4 is released.

And the upgrade price will be...?

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

lp_movies/tvs (11/28/2018)

Peter (RL) this is not out to late next year right how long will the price say like that before it go up just arking

The release date is not yet confirmed but it is tentatively scheduled for around the end of Q1 2019. The special pricing for the software offers will continue right up to the release. The Content Store offer begins on the 1st December but ends on the 31st December 2018. :)

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

jann (11/28/2018)
And the upgrade price will be...?

The member/upgrade price will be revealed at the time of release. However you can expect it to be in line with normal member/upgrade prices.

By kungphu - 8 Years Ago

Hey Peter,

With the new 4th gen IK avatars, will we be able to use mocap data for motions similar to the previous gen avatars???

By AriToons - 8 Years Ago

Those of us who have CTA3 when we can upgrade? What date?

By cbyas - 8 Years Ago

Will the characters be able to turn 360 degrees like in CTA2?

By vepop - 8 Years Ago

Creating a G3 character wearing a long dress is very challenging.
Hopefully, CTA4 resolves the issue.
Will the CTA4 characters still be sitting like the CTA3 characters?
eg.

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/50ce2546-7002-4e6b-90b9-cbd2.jpg

By Piotrastra - 8 Years Ago

Sounds interesting. I'll wait after the pre-sale period ends. I'm not the only one to wonder what the costs of upgrade will be for the CTA3 owners. And how about face motion capture for, say, android or windows? For now, it works only on iPhone, and even with iPhone, not all models are included.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

kungphu (11/28/2018)

Hey Peter,

With the new 4th gen IK avatars, will we be able to use mocap data for motions similar to the previous gen avatars???

Hi...

Importing full body 3D mocap motions for G2 characters will still be possible but not for the G4 characters. However more options for facial mocap for G4 characters will be included in CTA4.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

ElAriel (11/29/2018)

Those of us who have CTA3 when we can upgrade? What date?

We will be offering a special upgrade price for existing CTA3 users who wish to upgrade to CTA4. Prices will be confirmed nearer to the release date.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

cbyas (11/29/2018)

Will the characters be able to turn 360 degrees like in CTA2?

G4 characters will have 360 degree heads but not bodies.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

vepop (11/29/2018)

Creating a G3 character wearing a long dress is very challenging.
Hopefully, CTA4 resolves the issue.
Will the CTA4 characters still be sitting like the CTA3 characters?
eg.

Obviously development is still ongoing but I think you will see good improvements thanks to the new animation systems coming in CTA4.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

Piotrastra (11/29/2018)

And how about face motion capture for, say, android or windows? For now, it works only on iPhone, and even with iPhone, not all models are included.

CTA4 will offer additional facial mocap solutions using plug-ins, including using your webcam. These are tentatively scheduled for Q2 2019.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

obenkyounuma (11/28/2018)

Why December 2018?

I purchased Crazy Talk Animater 3 the day before yesterday.

And I bought additional content today.

UPDATE:

For those who purchased CTA3 after November 1st 2018, you can contact Customer Support and request a refund. You will then be able to choose the CTA3 Pro/Pipeline promotion and get a free upgrade to CTA4. Alternatively you can simply upgrade to CTA4 for a special price once it is released.

By vepop - 8 Years Ago

My suggestion is to make the program able to animate additional sprites for each body parts.
For example: CTA3 can only animate a single 'hip' sprite. Additional one is not working.
Hopefully, this will happen to CTA3 also.

By kylelee - 8 Years Ago

vepop (11/29/2018)

Creating a G3 character wearing a long dress is very challenging.
Hopefully, CTA4 resolves the issue.
Will the CTA4 characters still be sitting like the CTA3 characters?
eg.

Hi Vepop,

I have sent you a message, please check your email, thanks.

By vepop - 8 Years Ago

Hi Kyle.

Thanks.

By sovannmy - 8 Years Ago

I had reach out for support and just have got the answers as bellow:
................................................

Dear Sovann,

Thank you for contacting Reallusion.

There are three possibilities to get your CTA4:

1. If you purchase Pro or Pipeline Bundle Packages you will get a Free Upgrade to CTA4 in 2019.

2. If you purchase content in Dec. with an accumulated value of $299, you will get free CTA4 Pipeline.

3. Upgrade with special member price after CTA4 official launch in 2019 Apr.

https://www.reallusion.com/cartoon-animator/smart-ik-animation.html#pre-sale

Since you already have CTA3 Pro, I would suggest you either choose solution 2 or 3.

To take advantage of our content accumulation ($299) event, please see the content offers provided in our Content Store:
https://www.reallusion.com/contentstore/2d-animation.html

Please feel free to let us know if you have any further questions.

Best Regards
Jana
Technical Support
Reallusion Inc.
.....................................
Hope that help!!
Sovann

By morelia.frank - 8 Years Ago

I am confused about this point as well. Is the Pipeline version compatible with all programs that import and export PSD or only Photoshop? For example, will the templates work with Affinity Designer or Affinity Photo, both which handle PSD files.

By richinri - 8 Years Ago

I have CTA 3 Pro. It appears I can upgrade to Pipeline and purchase an animation pack (G3 Power Tools Vol 1) for $279 and get Version 4. Is this correct?

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

morelia.frank (11/30/2018)

Affinity Photo and Designer should work fine with the PSD templates just as they do now with CTA3 Pipeline.

By dvnmedia - 8 Years Ago

As I Also purchased CTA 3 Pipeline on 26th Nov, two days ago, am I entitled to a free Version 4 or can I get a refund on my purchase then simply repurchase it so I do Qualify?

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

richinri (11/30/2018)

I have CTA 3 Pro. It appears I can upgrade to Pipeline and purchase an animation pack (G3 Power Tools Vol 1) for $279 and get Version 4. Is this correct?

Yes if you purchase a qualifying CrazyTalk Animator 3 Pipeline Bundle then you will be entitled to a free upgrade to Cartoon Animator 4.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

dvnmedia (11/30/2018)

As I Also purchased CTA 3 Pipeline on 26th Nov, two days ago, am I entitled to a free Version 4 or can I get a refund on my purchase then simply repurchase it so I do Qualify?

As it stands now you don't qualify because the promotion started on the 28th November.

So the best thing to do is contact Customer Support and request a refund. Then purchase again and you will qualify for a free copy of Cartoon Animator 4 Pipeline. :)

By LPmoviestvs - 8 Years Ago

Peter (RL) hi peter just order crazytalk 3 pipline and i got nemail just say about the not about the free things am getting or Free Upgrade to CTA4 in 2019.
Also Enjoy Our Special Gifts ($79 value) During this Holiday Season! saying it in a email

By morelia.frank - 8 Years Ago

No, not correct per the deal offered on the website ... If you already have CTA3, you have to purchase $299 worth of content between December 1 (tomorrow) and December 31 to automatically qualify for a free upgrade to Cartoon Animator 4.

By sovannmy - 8 Years Ago

I do not have CTA3:

Buy CTA3 Pro or Pipeline Bundles and Get a free copy of CTA4 Pro or Pipeline
Plus Monthly Exclusive Bonus
This Software Store Offer is available from Nov. 28th 2018 through CTA4 launch
2018 Holiday Exclusive Bonus ($79 value) ends on Dec. 31st 2018

I just bought CTA3, expected to get a free upgrade to CTA4 Pipeline. How can i receive 2018 Holiday Exclusive Bonus ($79 value)? Thank you

By vidi - 8 Years Ago

:w00t:
I'm looking forward to it

Even though I do not show much in public, I spend so many nice hours with all my RL products and have so much fun.

RL surprise me again and again. I love this company

By 51fxdesigner - 8 Years Ago

RE: Cartoon Animator 4 (vs. CTA 3) -
It is always amazing to me how software companies / developers will literally stand on their head to recruit NEW customers and virtually give away NEW product, but for those of us who have supported Reallusion for many MANY! years - we get crumbs.

While this may seem like "sour grapes" or software envy it really isn't, BUT it does leave one to ponder why is it those who have been the consumer backbone of companies like Reallusion with loyalty, promotion >> of product to both clients and artists alike, just to be in essence "taken for granted" for that support.

I have no issue with Reallusion placing a "price" on a worthy upgrade - but it should be evenly distributed across the board. For example, I have invested time and MONEY in supporting and touting the merits of Reallusion products. I have purchased their applications, their after market content, as well as to offer personal and professional examples of the product's potential and use, along with constructive commentary in an effort to "make an improved" specialty product (Reallusion software). I dare say, to the point of collectively spending considerably more (over time) than what the NEW customer has to spend to "qualify" for the free Animator update / product (vers. 4).

I felt slighted when Reallusion offered Motion (facial) capture albeit with a caveat >> in that it will only work with an iPhone - anyone with an Android product was left on an island. Now as improved as Reallusion products have evolved, "GIFTS" are being showered on all NEW comers, but the rest of the "community" is in essence, being told, "oh, I'm sorry - this promotion doesn't apply to you.

In reading some of the comments tonight - I think it is rather callous of Reallusion to MAKE someone who supposedly missed an artificial "start date" by a day or two have to jump through hoops to qualify for the Cartoon Animator 4 give-a-way. Internally, Reallusion knew what was coming and when the announcement was going to "drop". Just a little forethought would have minimized the confusion and alienation being felt by these NEW customers to the Reallusion product line.

AND one last thought - If Reallusion already has a firm price (and advertised) on the new version I am almost certain, they have a pretty good idea what the upgrade price model will be as well - even at this stage of development. Reallusion products are impressive and technically sound - however their "people skills" need some work. Just Sayin'...

Oh... Something else to consider - all of these so-called "features" as seen in the teaser preview video - can I assume then that while "technically" CTA 3 (pipeline) works, when compared to the new "Version 4", CTA 3 is at best, an out-dated and inferior product and what we thought (and promoted by Reallusion) as "cutting edge" technology, was in reality, just an interim solution - a stop gap measure, perhaps a "BETA" version; while the "kinks" were being worked out in this "Version 4 update". And how clever of Reallusion to give the core product a NEW name to justify the perception of a NEW product, versus one that has been "fixed" and void of major technical issues, as experienced by many loyal end-users.

By ianmp - 8 Years Ago

Really looking forward to the new CTA4. Hopefully the developers will take the opportunity to introduce a 'dark mode' option for the UI, now becoming more common and particularly important with large hi-res screens where a light coloured UI can be very glaring.

By brothertcoleman - 8 Years Ago

Will there be the ability to record direct body movements rather than change body angle scroll timeline and repeat since G4 can’t use the motions we import like G2?

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

morelia.frank (12/1/2018)

CTA3 Standard and Pro users you can purchase a qualifying CTA3 Pipeline Bundle and get a FREE copy of Cartoon Animator 4 Pipeline. You don't have to use the $299 content offer. That is just another option.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

51fxdesigner (12/3/2018)

I think you have misunderstood the offer. We have not forgotten existing CTA users at all. Existing users can either purchase $299 worth of content during December to get a FREE copy of Cartoon Animator 4, or simply upgrade for a special price when CTA4 is release next year. So to clarify, existing CTA users won't be expected to pay full price for CTA4.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

brothertcoleman (12/3/2018)

Will there be the ability to record direct body movements rather than change body angle scroll timeline and repeat since G4 can’t use the motions we import like G2?

Do you mean full body motion capture?

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

ianmp (12/3/2018)

I don't think this is currently planned as an option but I will pass on your request. :)

By LPmoviestvs - 8 Years Ago

Peter (RL) with the webcam and add on comeing well they work with both pro and pipline of cartoon animator 4

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

lp_movies/tvs (12/3/2018)

Peter (RL) with the webcam and add on comeing well they work with both pro and pipline of cartoon animator 4

This has not been confirmed yet but I will check and get back to you as soon as I know. Just to clarify, facial mocap using a webcam will not be available upon release and is scheduled for Q2 2019.

By 51fxdesigner - 8 Years Ago

Peter,

I DO appreciate your reply. Thank you.
I am NOT being argumentative, I was simply pointing out a perception that has been around for a number of years regarding Reallusion's efforts to recruit new customers.
Obviously, Reallusion has the right to take whatever path they choose. I merely was pointing out a consumer's perspective each time there is a product announcement / launch.

I am fully aware that (as has been Reallusion's practice) an UPGRADE price will be made available to existing product users. I assumed that with my initial response to Reallusion. I was simply voicing one consumer's opinion as it applied to how one might feel with these so-called promotions.

In all likelihood, when Version 4 becomes available I WILL support the new product and purchase an upgrade. That really wasn't my point.
I appreciate the strides and advances Reallusion has put forth, I really do - BUT I still feel Reallusion should be a bit more flexible with how they treat their client base. Again, I will reference the case of several users who posted their frustration with having to request a refund and RE-purchase the bundle in order to receive the product update at little or no cost. As an experienced e-commerce developer, this should NOT be required or made to place the responsibility on the consumer to make it right. Frankly, without these same individuals willing to put their faith (and dollar) in YOUR product - Reallusion would cease to exist.

Again, I am merely offering a reasonable perspective, while respecting Reallusion's business model and opinion on this matter. Thanks again, Peter for your reply.

FX Designer

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

lp_movies/tvs (11/30/2018)

Did you purchase Crazytalk Animator 3 Pipeline on its own? You need to purchase or upgrade to one of the qualifying Crazytalk Animator 3 Pipeline bundles to get Cartoon Animator 4 Pipeline free plus the Holiday Season bonus. The qualifying packs are clearly marked like the one below.

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/143bbd62-bd0c-4dc6-acb3-8372.png

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

51fxdesigner (12/3/2018)

Thanks for explaining more. We do appreciate you taking the time to share your views.

Just to clarify one point, the refund offer was for customers who purchased before the promotion started and so didn't qualify. We did this as a good will gesture so I don't really see how this is a bad thing. :ermm:

By LPmoviestvs - 8 Years Ago

Peter (RL) yes mate i saw what i did after i order had a lot happen last week they refund me know so did you find out before i oder pro about the mocap mate thanks for the reply if that would be comeing to pro and pipline

By brothertcoleman - 8 Years Ago

brothertcoleman (12/3/2018)

Will there be the ability to record direct body movements rather than change body angle scroll timeline and repeat since G4 can’t use the motions we import like G2?

Do you mean full body motion capture?

Yes, there wasn't an ability to record our custom animations for the G3 characters, we had to key frame all of the animations ,I was thinking along the lines of Iclone's Direct Puppet's ability to record our own custom body movements.

The same with free bone characters and items,its nice to be able to preview the movements in real time in composer mode but why not a way to record the movements instead of having to key frame everything.

By taka_ - 8 Years Ago

Just 1 thing

I wrote few times telling about what I consider a bug in your program

I work as software developer for another company

it is about the exportation of the animation in video

I wrote again a short >>

I set an animation like opening a door (is a good example to understand the situation)

1 - then you click 3D button and you set the camera perspective

2 - you play the animation and you see a door opening from a side perspective (perfect ! )

3 - you go to export the animation to video. the result is a video playing from front side view, it doesn't respect what program is really showing you (total fail ! )

4 - I sincerely think if the program can do it then when you export you should have an option to front view or custom perspective (or similar configuration)

I am owner of CTA 3 Pipeline and I will consider upgrade to CTA 4 if at least that had been solved

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

taka_ (12/5/2018)

I set an animation like opening a door (is a good example to understand the situation)

1 - then you click 3D button and you set the camera perspective

2 - you play the animation and you see a door opening from a side perspective (perfect ! )

3 - you go to export the animation to video. the result is a video playing from front side view, it doesn't respect what program is really showing you (total fail ! )

4 - I sincerely think if the program can do it then when you export you should have an option to front view or custom perspective (or similar configuration)

I am owner of CTA 3 Pipeline and I will consider upgrade to CTA 4 if at least that had been solved

Hi Taka

3D View in CTA is only for setting the Z Axis values of objects in your scene. Crazytalk Animator is 2D software, and so the view is always from the front (like viewing a painting). If you want to see objects at different angles in CTA, then they need to be drawn or created that way to start with. You can't use the camera to view objects in your scene at different angles.

Really to have this kind of 3D functionality you will be better working in a full 3D environment using iClone which supports using toon characters.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

brothertcoleman (12/5/2018)

Yes, there wasn't an ability to record our custom animations for the G3 characters, we had to key frame all of the animations ,I was thinking along the lines of Iclone's Direct Puppet's ability to record our own custom body movements.

The same with free bone characters and items,its nice to be able to preview the movements in real time in composer mode but why not a way to record the movements instead of having to key frame everything.

Thanks for explaining more. I will pass on your request to the CTA team for consideration. :)

By sara.hack - 8 Years Ago

Hi there,
This looks very interesting and I will look forward to seeing the new version. But I just wanted to ask if you are thinking of going back to 360 degree characters like you had in CrazyTalk2?
Also would it be possible for you to develop some more 'off the shelf' characters to buy that are...how do I put this...attractive cartoon characters? Sorry but the current ones are really awful and very limited. I work for a large organisation and we need good quality characters in all different styles of dress, with suits for office workers, with casual wear, different ethnic types, all sorts of characters. The standard ones just don't cover it, are unattractive and have silly bouncy walks. There was more choice with the old G1 and G2 characters.
Many thanks,
Sara

By Holden7 - 8 Years Ago

I recently bought CTA3 to work primarily with 3D motions and G2 characters. I’m wondering which of the following new features in CTA4 might work with G2 characters:

-Customize Elastic Motion Effects
-Smooth Head Turn/G4 360 Head Creator
-Smart IK Animation
-Custom End Effectors for Free Bone Characters
-Motion Retargeting

Can a smooth turning G4 head be put on a G2 body?

I’m assuming...
- Custom IK Rig GUI/ Photoshop Design Pipeline (PSD import/export)
... won’t work with G2’s. Is that correct?

How about:
- Plug-in Facial Motion Capture
Will it be useable with G2 characters directly or via G4 heads on G2 bodies?

Thanks!

By Kazakovdg - 8 Years Ago

Hello! Immediately apologize for the bad English,because I am not a native speaker.

Is it possible based on CrazyTalk Animator / CartoonAnimator, create something similar to Character Creator for 2D characters?Maybe it's a stupid question, but I'm still interested.

By Ihms - 8 Years Ago

I'm looking forward to the new software abilities of the software, the characters and props that I can create along with the animation that I'll develop. This looks like a great time for Reallusion.

By rohaidzam.rashid - 8 Years Ago

Is there a way to render CTA with alpha channel? (Having transparent Backgrounds so we can composite in a video editor) That would be an awesome feature!

By AtlantisPS - 8 Years Ago

I have Crazy Talk Animator 3 Pipeline (purchased as Presale with CTA2). From what I can gather from the Reallusion website, if I spend USD $150 (on sale) to rebuy CTA3, I'll get Cartoon Animator 4 upon release, or, I spend USD $299 in content (which I have previously purchased, so don't need any more), and get CA4 upon release?

Can you tell me if the above is correct, and is there going to be and upgrade price for CTA3 owners?

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

AtlantisPS (12/10/2018)

Can you tell me if the above is correct, and is there going to be and upgrade price for CTA3 owners?

Hi...

You will get a free copy of Cartoon Animator 4 Pipeline if you buy one of the qualifying Crazytalk Animator 3 Pipeline BUNDLES (see below). Just purchasing CTA 3 Pipeline on its own again won't get you a free copy of CTA4 Pipeline. However as you already have CTA3 Pipeline you may prefer to wait and just upgrade to CTA4 Pipeline when it is released.

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/c40f9058-5d59-40f0-b0b1-15d0.png

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

rohaidzam.rashid (12/9/2018)

Is there a way to render CTA with alpha channel? (Having transparent Backgrounds so we can composite in a video editor) That would be an awesome feature!

If you have the Windows version of CTA3, then you can export in Sequence Image PNG format and this will give you a transparent background. You can then load the Sequence Images into your video editor ready for compositing. If you have the Mac version, then you can export using the ProRes 4444 video option and this will include an alpha channel.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

kazakovdg (12/6/2018)

Hello! Immediately apologize for the bad English,because I am not a native speaker.

Is it possible based on CrazyTalk Animator / CartoonAnimator, create something similar to Character Creator for 2D characters?Maybe it's a stupid question, but I'm still interested.

CrazyTalk Animator already has Composer mode which is very much a 2D character creator system. For example for our G2 characters you have a library of heads, uppers, lowers and shoes that can be mixed and matched to create a huge variety of custom characters. Plus for G3 characters you can send these back and forth to your image editing software for custom creation and to change clothing, add accessories etc (Pipeline version).

By Piotrastra - 8 Years Ago

As usually, newcomers ( those who buy CTA 3 now) get the newest version for free.
Those who have been using CTA 3 for a while, will have to buy an upgrade. That's business.
I wonder, though, what the member price might be when the software is released ?

By AtlantisPS - 8 Years Ago

Thanks Peter,
Is there an idea on upgrade price, when released?

Cheers, Matt

By art225 - 8 Years Ago

Looks great but I really hope you lower the price for folks who own CTA 2 and CTA 3. Seems like you introduced the idea of 3d head and body movement in CTA 2 but these don't work on G3 characters (i wondered why this wasn't launched for CTA 3 characters). In addition we were able to change strides with sliders in CTA 2 but these also don't work on G3 characters vice versa and it seems like something similar is coming to CTA4. I feel that if you make a new version you should also update the characters made by reallusion so that they are compatible. For example I bought all these animations for G2 characters that I can't use for G3 characters. Sometimes I want my G3 character to behave like a G2 character (changing 3d angles of character) but its not possible without making the character all over to work like a G2 character. I'm not complaining but I feel more folks will purchase your character content if they know that it will be compatible without hassle on future versions of your software. I would be really happy if my purchased G3 characters are updated for all these G4 features such as 360 degree head turn, and smart IK, etc. Please don't take my post as negative but something to think about when you launch new versions of your software. I love your software and I'm looking forward to see all the new features in CTA 4.

Thank you!

By Holden7 - 8 Years Ago

Thanks for replying to my questions about G2 in CTA4 kylelee.

Peter, can you tell us if a few of the new features in CTA4 will work with G2 characters? Specifically:

- Smart IK (Inverse Kinematic)
- Intuitive Auto IK/FK Switch
- Stretch Animation
- Smart Motion Retargeting
- Facial Motion Capture

These are exciting additions and it would be great if they worked with G2's.

I bought CTA3 Pipeline a couple of days before CTA4 was announced, and can still return it to buy the bundle version that includes the upgrade to CTA4. But the bundle is an extra $130 and I'm trying to figure out whether it's contents and CTA4's new features will be useful to me (I originally bought the non-bundle pipeline as I figured I would center my work around G2, not G3).

Having spent a large amount of money in the Reallusion store in November, I'm trying to make an educated and economically responsible choice. Knowing which new features work with which generation of characters would help guide my choice.

Thanks so much.

By sovannmy - 8 Years Ago

I just bought CTA3 Pro in Dec 2018, just want to get your confirmation, will i get CTA4 Pro or CTA4 Pipline?
Thank you

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/a72c8612-fd56-4931-a751-b264.jpg

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

AtlantisPS (12/10/2018)

Thanks Peter,
Is there an idea on upgrade price, when released?

Cheers, Matt

The upgrade price will be announced nearer to the release date but you can expect it to be in line with normal upgrade pricing. Cartoon Animator 4 should be released around April 2019.

By sara.hack - 8 Years Ago

Hi Artstar,

I absolutely agree with you and this is what I also find frustrating with the software and it's upgrades. There doesn't seem to be a consistent approach when the software is developed and a thought for the users of the software and how they are going to work with the new version. I am all for new features but it's important to try to make them compatible with previous versions. So far I have not used this software for work jobs. I have dabbled with it but the characters in CT3 are very unattractive and wouldn't work for the sort of animations we would use them for. I also don't have a lot of time to develop my own so having a good selection of well drawn off the shelf characters to buy would be brilliant. I feel Reallusion are missing a trick...or several tricks here.

The other thing is that the demos need to use good quality characters and not silly hand drawn stick men. This has got better in more recent videos but those characters are still available in the software for some reason. It seems they are aiming it at amateurs not professionals.

But having said all of that I also don't want to be too negative as in general I think the software is really good and has a lot of potential for me to use it.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

Artstar (12/10/2018)

Thank you for the feedback.

All previous characters and motions you may have purchased will still be usable in CTA4 when applied to the correct generation of characters. It is understandable that many users see the next generation of characters as being replacements for the previous generation but that is not really the case. Each generation has their own style and features. For example if you wish to work with characters that can be rotated 360 degrees and use 3D animations then G2 is the way to go. However if you want easy to create and customise characters that can use the "Elastic Motion" system then G3 is the better choice. It really all depends on your needs and the style you wish to work in.

By sara.hack - 8 Years Ago

But can you customize G2 in the same way you can customize G3? Maybe I have missed a feature there...

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

sovannmy (12/11/2018)

I just bought CTA3 Pro in Dec 2018, just want to get your confirmation, will i get CTA4 Pro or CTA4 Pipline?
Thank you

If you only purchased an upgrade to CrazyTalk Animator 3 Pro on its own then unfortunately you won't qualify a free copy of Cartoon Animator 4 Pro.

You need to have purchased one of the qualifying Bundles that show the free offer such as the one below.

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/f09566d5-1275-4d3a-a8ca-ca5d.png

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

sara.hack (12/11/2018)

But can you customize G2 in the same way you can customize G3? Maybe I have missed a feature there...

G2 characters are fully customisable using the "mix and match" system. So for example you can choose a different head, hair, upper clothing, lower clothing and shoes etc to create an almost unlimited number of different characters without needing to touch an image editor or have artistic skills. And the more G2 add-on packs you buy the more content you will have in your G2 wardrobe to give you even more options.

Please se the video below for an example of how they can be customised with add-on packs.

By sara.hack - 8 Years Ago

OK thank you but are they fully customiseable in the same way that the G3 ones are using a Photoshop template?

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

sara.hack (12/11/2018)

OK thank you but are they fully customiseable in the same way that the G3 ones are using a Photoshop template?

Because G2 characters are multi-angle they are more difficult to create from scratch (hence the mix and match system). However for those who do want to invest time in creating their own characters we do supply a Flash template and a DrawPlus template but not a Photoshop PSD template.

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

Holden7 (12/11/2018)

Most of the new animation features coming in CTA4 will apply to our latest generation characters only. Because G2 characters are multi-angle they use their own 2D and 3D Motion Key editors for animation. However facial motion capture will be available for G2 character heads.

By sovannmy - 8 Years Ago

Sorry if i gave you not complete info. Here what i bought. Can i qualify for a free copy of CTA4 now?

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/de45053e-e965-476c-9ab3-f01b.jpg

By Holden7 - 8 Years Ago

Thanks for the information Peter. I appreciate your answers to our queries!

By art225 - 8 Years Ago

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However if you want easy to create and customise characters that can use the "Elastic Motion" system then G3 is the better choice. It really all depends on your needs and the style you wish to work in.
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Yes but thats my point. I would like both elastic and multiangle since I do use this software for clients I need my animations to look consistant. In other words make G4 multiangle and elastic and I'll be happy. Thanks :)

By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago

Artstar (12/19/2018)

Yes but thats my point. I would like both elastic and multiangle since I do use this software for clients I need my animations to look consistant. In other words make G4 multiangle and elastic and I'll be happy. Thanks :)

Unfortunately this is really a case of the old adage "you can't please all the people all of the time".

When we introduced multi angle G2 characters, the general response was that they are great but it takes too long and requires too much effort to create custom characters.

So with G3 characters we prioritised making them easy to create but to do this we had to lose the multi angle aspect. This is because multi angle characters are always going to be much harder to create with a longer creation time because of the sheer number of parts required. This is unavoidable unfortunately.

Because of this dilemma having both options available seems the best, if not a perfect solution for now. :)

By art225 - 8 Years Ago

Can we please know the upgrade price if I purchased CTA3 pipeline?

By jtglidepath - 7 Years Ago

Thanks. I assume this means that the .psd file, no matter how it was created, must have layers with the proper naming conventions and layer order? For example, there would need to be a head layer, a right foot layer, etc. Correct? If so, are the naming conventions documented anywhere?

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

jtglidepath (1/10/2019)

The provided PSD templates and documentation show the correct naming conventions that need to be used. If you want to try this out we have a trial version of CTA3 Pipeline and the PSD templates available.

By sovannmy - 7 Years Ago

Will i qualify for a free copy of CTA4 now? See below items I bought.

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/ab74491d-bd2e-41ba-81a0-223d.jpg

By Redspark - 7 Years Ago

Hi, I'm completely new to CTA. I bought the Pipeline version through the special offer last month and have been interested in creating some characters for a YouTube series I'm interested in making. However, I'm struggling with what can and can't be done with the different Generations. With CTA4, can we mix some of the new technologies into G2 characters? Like Mesh warping and 360 head turn? Will there be an efficient way to develop G2 characters other than the G2 template? (I don't consider the composer efficient just convenient for small changes) May be support for an SVG template? Thanks.

James

PS: Sorry if some of these questions have obvious answers. I just don't have the experience yet. :(

By Tarampa Studios - 7 Years Ago

Can't wait for CA4!!
LOVE the new name!!...
It sounds sooo much more professional.

Fun Fact:
A lot of my work comes from government grants and contracts, however they'd never get approved with the word "Crazytalk" anywhere in the list of resources, so I've actually been calling it "Cartoon Animator" for the past 3 years already, LOL

But, I'm so excited, I'm busting to ask;
... will the new features include:
* ability to rename our custom image layers in the scene manager?
* ability to render animated gifs & swfs with & without clear backgrounds so we can use them in websites and powerpoint presentations again?
* ability to render videos in 4K (3840x2160), same as we can in iClone? (Not just pngs from CTA3, as at present.)
* ability to use a wider range of swfs from any source? (not just adobe)
* ability to see the hierarchy of linked props in the Scene Manager, same as we can in iClone?
* ability to save avatars and props which have sub-props/accessories attached, same as we can in iClone?
* ability to adjust the colour of popvideos/MP4s etc that are dragged in as props, same as we can in iClone?
* ability to adjust/trim/loop video textures of props in the timeline, same as we can in iClone? (the video track seems to be missing from props in CTA3)
* ability to take better thumbnail snapshots for our custom assets, like we can in iClone, instead of having so much wasted white space?
* ability to hide the scratch area behind a wide dark grey/black frame/border to help visualise the finished scene easier, while still being able to click and move each asset while it's out of frame?
* ability to move assets, even when their visibility is switched off?
& ability to change the pivot points for everything - as easily as we can in iClone with 1 click - without having to do so much messing around so we can also resize/tumble/spin everything so much faster?

By alpicat02 - 7 Years Ago

The webpage mentions that webcam facial mocap will be possible at launch. Will this have the same capabilities as using an iphone with a truedepth camera or will it be more limited?

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

alpicat02 (1/27/2019)

The webpage mentions that webcam facial mocap will be possible at launch. Will this have the same capabilities as using an iphone with a truedepth camera or will it be more limited?

The basic functionality will be the same but there will be some differences between the two systems that will be explained nearer to release. However to clarify one point, the release of the Facial Mocap Plug-in for CTA4 is currently scheduled for Q2 2019 and not available at launch.

By alpicat02 - 7 Years Ago

Good to know thanks - was just wondering whether it's worth saving up for an iphone (or ipad) with truedepth camera or not. If you say there are some differences then my guess is that it would logically work better with the truedepth camera than a webcam, so for the best results it probably makes sense getting the iphone - though of course won't know for sure for a few months!

By sharmasimmi579 - 7 Years Ago

Since CTA4 is wip, recommending one feature to be added of search in content of app. Searching in props, actor, animation etc like Iclone. It gives lot of eaae.

By Faktengag - 7 Years Ago

Is it possible to create an additional "stand alone" projector?
So a customer can use my toon for his purposes without the main program..

By ImmortalDreams - 7 Years Ago

I am super impressed with this. It's going to be a breakthrough for animation. I am so psyched for this, I can't even find the words! ^o^

By ToonaciousD - 7 Years Ago

Wow, I can't wait! I'm so glad I upgraded to Pipeline instead of upgrading my Moho! Some amazing improvements that convinced me to be the most creative without fighting the software.

Mind pre-blown! (Can't wait to be full blown).

By leocarofiglio - 7 Years Ago

Hello there!
I wonder why the character cannot move 360 degree on CA4 since now has been introduced the 360 degree head!

I'm still not satisfied with the release of this new product that imho has no big improvement to justify a new release BUT I would be totally fine with it if I could finally have a full 360 degree movement but guess what? I can do it only with the head! I always feel you make one step ahead and one back. I'm sure that the 60 degree movement of character could be achieved as well as the 360 degree head.

By brookelustig - 7 Years Ago

I have to agree with this sentiment. I'm surprised that the ability to have G3 characters naturally turn to different angles has not been a implemented for CA4. Just adding this feature would be worthy enough for a new product release. Right now, CA4 looks cool but the fact that it's missing something as basic and foundational as rotating character body angles is extremely disappointing and makes any animation created with CA4 limited.

leocarofiglio (2/4/2019)

By Redspark - 7 Years Ago

brookelustig (2/4/2019)

Making the head "appear" to be 3D by translating, masking, swapping, etc. layers around may seem simple since CTA in some ways already had some of these features, I suspect it required some effort to rework those features. Also a lot of effort looks to be put into wrapping it all together into an easy to use composer as they have done. From my experience, that's no easy task. Also, making a single joint seem to rotate is a lot different than a complete body. The complete body of a G3 character appears to be a single piece of artwork that is bent by mesh warping. Without segmenting the body into pieces again like the G2 characters and drawing each joint from various angles, it won't be easy to rotate an individual part to get complete 3D movement. And then we're back to whining about why it takes so much effort to draw a multi-angle character and why the character doesn't animate as smoothly as a G3.

I'll take the head improvements and hope that the same smooth animation can be extended to the body later on. It looks awesome to me. If I need multi-angle movement, I'll use a G2 character for now.

By Faktengag - 7 Years Ago

Hello, a question to the Reallusion Masterminds,

this is my idea:

A combination of 2G movements with the 3G character.
In this case the 2G figure is the skeleton of the 3G toon.
So I create the animation first and then it has to be possible to
link between the skeleton and the pictures from 3G.
Of course we need the pictures for the whole turn around too.

Happy programming...

By michaellegge52 - 7 Years Ago

I will be a beta tester for the Mac version. What's the progress on it? I've seen no sign of it yet.

By rejjyvampiar - 7 Years Ago

I want to know whether this Software is ready for 2D animation production for TV cartoon.
I want to start new animation series, and want to use cartoon animator 4,

just wanted to know whether it is ready for production, without any problems. glitches, and bugs???/

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

rejjyvampiar (2/19/2019)

Cartoon Animator 4 is not released until April but there is no reason why it can't be used for a television cartoon series. All the tools are there to create professional level animation. You just need to provide the creativity.

By janarae - 7 Years Ago

I'd like to make a feature request to improve the text in thought bubbles and titling in CTA4. I'm very excited about the animation improvements in these demos and can't wait to put it to use...but sometimes you need a character to say or think something with text on screen, and I hope that CTA4 might have some room in the development efforts to address text and titling.

One of my biggest gripes about CTA3 is that the text is fuzzy when inserting a bubble or subtitle from the SFX Text menu. The text is much more pixelated than the surrounding graphics, so it really sticks out and I end up having to use another tool outside of CTA3 when I need text in a project. The border of a Thought bubble or Speaking bubble is also more jagged than other graphics, so this feature as a whole could really use some attention.

Improving the clarity of the text would make me very happy, and would allow me to do more of my video annotations right inside of CTA. But even better would be if animation behaviors could be applied to text titles as well. Being able to slide-in, fade-in, bounce-in, etc. text that is defined directly into the application would be a huge time saver! Right now, if I want text to get fancy, I have to create the text as an image and then can apply special animation behaviors to the image...but that is very time consuming and a pain to switch between applications. If I could apply the animation behaviors that are already available in CTA for an image to be applied to text, I would be a very happy camper!

Not only would this feature request would be a huge boost to my own productivity in CTA, I think it would make CTA more attractive to more marketing professionals. Being able to display text in a compelling way within a video is very important to me as a marketer, especially for videos intended for social media where some statistics show upwards of 80% of videos are watched with the audio turned off. Highlighting key points in text on-screen has become a necessity in this industry.

Here's an example of a frame preview from CTA3 where you can see that the text is fuzzy in Comic, Realistic, and Subtitle objects:

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/26ff3ca2-d52b-453b-832e-3028.png

By southend - 7 Years Ago

Hi, I'm looking to use CTA for business.

Mostly I'm hoping to use animation to communicate with people who learn visually.

So as an example I might explain (via voiceover) that a particular nutrient improves the brain the digestive system. In my animation I would want to put a sort of light around the brain and the digestive system.

So this would require me to have a way to overlay some sort of light circle on parts of my image. From the training I've seen, I don't know how I could do this now in cta3 let alone the new program. [EDIT: In the help doc I just discovered a 'reduce opacity' animation for props that will let me do this! I somehow also just discovered an "import compound prop" on a Pipeline help page that might also allow this. Your main videos don't cover this prop stuff which I have to dig for.]

Anyway, I'm mostly going to animate props (ideas, stats, symbols) that I have drawn myself.

Would the new CTA4 have any improvements for people like me?
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By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

janarae (2/20/2019)

Thank you for the feedback. The CTA team will look to improve on this and have added it to the "to do" list.

For now, if you have the Pipeline version you can use the PSD import options to bring in your own text bubbles.

By Anonymous2020 - 7 Years Ago

By tpetmezas - 7 Years Ago

Peter wrote:
"Unfortunately this is really a case of the old adage "you can't please all the people all of the time".
When we introduced multi angle G2 characters, the general response was that they are great but it takes too long and requires too much effort to create custom characters.
So with G3 characters we prioritised making them easy to create but to do this we had to lose the multi angle aspect. This is because multi angle characters are always going to be much harder to create with a longer creation time because of the sheer number of parts required. This is unavoidable unfortunately.
Because of this dilemma having both options available seems the best, if not a perfect solution for now."

Indeed "having both options available seems the best, if not a perfect solution". However, the truth is that nobody complained about how hard it is to draw multiangled characters. We do love drawing multiangled characters. We all did complain, though, about how not functional where the tools provided by CTA2 in order to let us create our own characters. It was a complete frustration. Our compaints should have led Reallusion in improving CTA's tools for multiangled character creation, and not cutting multiangled characters at all, which in this case reminds me another old adage we say in my country: "The head aches, then cut the head". CTA, even before its first release, was introduced as a 2D animation software that was supposed will provide 3D functionallity to 2D characters. So, none is whinning for providing two-angled characters only to those who are pleased with limited animation. We do complain, though, for not improving multi-angled characters as well. Right now not both options are equally available as you say. For example, a photoshop template to help us create G2 characters would be such an improvement, as at he moment only vector images are supported with G2 characters. Face morphing in CTA4 proceeds toward the correct direction. But without a functional body moving and being framed in 3D space, such beautifully moving heads look rediculous on a limitedly moving body. CTA4 is still a giant, but with legs out of clay. In order to become the real Giant it deserves to be, needs to bring back urgently multiangled character creation improved support. And that means you should work harder to make our work easier.

By ImmortalDreams - 7 Years Ago

Can you give us a general idea when in April it will be released? Like, there were some delays when CTA3 was coming out, so it would be nice to know. Thanks!

By Faktengag - 7 Years Ago

Peter,
can you confirm that Reallusion observes Adobe's Character Animator?
This is your competitor.

What about the idea to include CT too?

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

ImmortalDreams (4/1/2019)

Can you give us a general idea when in April it will be released? Like, there were some delays when CTA3 was coming out, so it would be nice to know. Thanks!

Unfortunately, the release date has not yet been confirmed but I'm not aware of any delays at present.

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

Faktengag (4/1/2019)

Peter,
can you confirm that Reallusion observes Adobe's Character Animator?
This is your competitor.

What about the idea to include CT too?

I think it's fair to say the CrazyTalk Animator team are fully aware of the other 2D animation software currently available. :Whistling:

By Faktengag - 7 Years Ago

Peter (RL) (01.04.2019)

Faktengag (4/1/2019)

Peter,
can you confirm that Reallusion observes Adobe's Character Animator?
This is your competitor.

What about the idea to include CT too?

I think it's fair to say the CrazyTalk Animator team are fully aware of the other 2D animation software currently available. :Whistling:

So do the same. And better!
This apple-mobile-thing was unnecessary (my opinion).
And my question to Crazy Talk? Create one new big program.

Or ignore regular customers and concentrate your work to new kids, who dream about "making television shows".

By soytinatiu - 7 Years Ago

frankly I like the program. I see no reason it couldn't be used in tv program. Hope fully the 360 degree heads can be connected to past types of figure too as that would be a big plus, and eventually I predict that same tech will be expanded to the whole body/object, but they just need time. one step at a time I suppose.

By Faktengag - 7 Years Ago

I think it's fair to say the CrazyTalk Animator team are fully aware of the other 2D animation software currently available. :Whistling:

So do the same. And better!

Take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j_v0RLQa8k

By AriToons - 7 Years Ago

When is the launch?

By Kazakovdg - 7 Years Ago

Apparently after April 25th.

By easygamer - 7 Years Ago

Hi,

Reallusion started recently a 'Before CA4 launch-content-sale' (their words, give or take) which is due to end on the 25th of April. As per the title of this sale, this means that CA4 should be released between the 26th and the 30th of April.

The developer also confirmed there are no delays with the release so, the above estimate should be fairly accurate.

Thank you.

By peggyscottpjs - 7 Years Ago

I didn't want to miss out so I thought I'd better ask? Has Cartoon Animator 4 launched yet? I'm waiting...

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

peggyscottpjs (4/14/2019)

I didn't want to miss out so I thought I'd better ask? Has Cartoon Animator 4 launched yet? I'm waiting...

Not yet. When it is released it will be announced on the website and this forum. I don't think you will miss it. ;)

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

tpetmezas (3/24/2019)

Indeed "having both options available seems the best, if not a perfect solution". However, the truth is that nobody complained about how hard it is to draw multiangled characters. We do love drawing multiangled characters. We all did complain, though, about how not functional where the tools provided by CTA2 in order to let us create our own characters. It was a complete frustration. Our compaints should have led Reallusion in improving CTA's tools for multiangled character creation, and not cutting multiangled characters at all, which in this case reminds me another old adage we say in my country: "The head aches, then cut the head". CTA, even before its first release, was introduced as a 2D animation software that was supposed will provide 3D functionallity to 2D characters. So, none is whinning for providing two-angled characters only to those who are pleased with limited animation. We do complain, though, for not improving multi-angled characters as well. Right now not both options are equally available as you say. For example, a photoshop template to help us create G2 characters would be such an improvement, as at he moment only vector images are supported with G2 characters. Face morphing in CTA4 proceeds toward the correct direction. But without a functional body moving and being framed in 3D space, such beautifully moving heads look rediculous on a limitedly moving body. CTA4 is still a giant, but with legs out of clay. In order to become the real Giant it deserves to be, needs to bring back urgently multiangled character creation improved support. And that means you should work harder to make our work easier.

Hi...

I did pass on your feedback to the CTA team and they would like to assure you that multi-angle characters have not been abandoned completely. For now, the priority is to have a character creation system that makes it easy for everyone to be able to create their own custom characters. However, the team will continue to look at ways to make multi-angle characters easier to create for everyone, and will certainly consider reintroducing a new generation of multi-angle characters at some point in the future if a solution can be found.

By AriToons - 7 Years Ago

Reallusion, please dont forget the G2 characters, please.

By sumate_it - 7 Years Ago

How about status of Crazy Talk Animator 4?, Nearly end of April.
Please update.

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

sumate_it (4/26/2019)

How about status of Crazy Talk Animator 4?, Nearly end of April.
Please update.

Cartoon Animator 4 is still on schedule to release before the end of April. ;)

By coolhewitt24 - 7 Years Ago

Hi Everyone,

Today is April 28th 2019 at 8:30pm and CTA4 hasn't been released. Less than 48 hrs left in April.

Take care, I hope its worth the wait.

By technicely - 7 Years Ago

Curious about the MOCAP software that was apart of the CTA 4 schedule (but sold separately). I haven't heard any more news about this and hope that this will be available the 29th as well? I cant wait to see if this will be a viable solution and also if there are particular webcams that the software works with.

By similarly - 7 Years Ago

I'm losing my mind waiting for this. I have a birthday coupon worth an extra 10% off in the store ... good until the end of April, and I'm saving it for this, but if it doesn't release by the end of the month, my coupon goes [poof].

By daeotten - 7 Years Ago

Would of been nice to have CTA4 for the weekend.

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

generally_happy (4/28/2019)

Barring any last minute problems, Cartoon Animator 4 should launch on the 29th. Not long to wait now.

By similarly - 7 Years Ago

Thank you! I'm super excited for this! Originally, I wasn't going to get it, since I haven't had time to use CTA as much as I'd like (even though I bought CTA1, 2 and 3 over the years), but CTA4 looks so amazing! I really hope I'll have the time to work with it.

By pgibouin - 7 Years Ago

Good news, CA4 seems one of the most advanced tool for 2D animation. I'm waiting to upgrade the licenses of my studio as well. By the way, I think Peter is talking for US Pacific Time zone which my be the 30th for Asian and European customers. But no problem for me, I can wait a few more hours ;-)

By sumate_it - 7 Years Ago

Can we start the countdown for CA4 yet? Very excited.

By hillcape - 7 Years Ago

It's the 29th everywhere in the world now.

By hillcape - 7 Years Ago

Going insane waiting for Cartoon Animator 4 to drop. Insane, I tell ya.

By WildZooGuy - 7 Years Ago

Is Cartoon Animator 4 running behind schedule? it's the 29th and I've been waiting all year for this.

By soytinatiu - 7 Years Ago

People, my mental health is at stake here... and my heart might give out. It's the 29th and no Cartoon Animator 4. We are using the western calendar I hope:). Now speaking seriously, there appears to be a delay. I figure there was either a) a problem they're fixing at the last minute to make sure ca4 it top notch, b) Everybody worked so hard on CA4 they couldn't wake up this morning:) or c) there was a huge last minute response to the cta3 purchase with upgrade offer -take advantage of that if you don't own it by the way!.
If it's a) it is what it is and I'm sure they're doing their best. Still like to know. If it's c) they might have a conundrum as who wouldn't want to let ppl get the offer to get cta3 and receive the upgrade. If this is the case my suggestion would be to go ahead and release CT4 if it's ready, but still allow people that don't own cta3 to take advantage of the old offer for a couple of days. I would make both ppl that own cta3 and those that don't, happy too.

By Faktengag - 7 Years Ago

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/233ef50c-975c-4e2f-aea0-c667.png

By scribbley3rd - 7 Years Ago

I've seen that people have been playing with the Beta versions some time ago as a video was referenced.
Let's hope there's an update posted soon and all features are available on day one or soon after as it's not right charging for features that haven't been implemented yet.

Here's hoping they look after their customers who have V1, 2 and 3 (some of us haven't had V3 that long really). :)
Really hope V4 lives up to expectations and isn't too difficult to grasp. :)

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

WildZooGuy (4/29/2019)

Is Cartoon Animator 4 running behind schedule? it's the 29th and I've been waiting all year for this.

Unfortunately, there has been a small delay to the release of Cartoon Animator 4. I'm really sorry to have to bring this bad news. We now hope to release CTA4 on the 30th (still just in April).

We do apologise for the disappointment caused.

By WildZooGuy - 7 Years Ago

Knew something was up, unfortunately I have to work all this week so I won't be able to buy it until like Friday.

By technicely - 7 Years Ago

When will receive information about the MOCAP? Will this be built in or a separate purchase available at the same time?

By Jason.Holt - 7 Years Ago

That sucks, but thanks for the update :)

By similarly - 7 Years Ago

My birthday coupon says "Valid until April 30th." I hope I'll still be able to use it. Would be nice.
Meanwhile, absolutely losing my mind waiting for this!!! So excited!

By coolhewitt24 - 7 Years Ago

Hi Everyone,

30th April 2019 @ 9:30 am Asia. I predict a 90% that their products won't be released until May.

take care everyone

By similarly - 7 Years Ago

I really do think we'll see it within the next 24 hours, or April 30th USA time. It's just hard to be patient. I have CTA1, 2 and 3, and this is the most excited I've been for a reallusion product.

By victorp_sg - 7 Years Ago

Cartoon Animator 4 is now available for download in Reallusion Hub. It's about 578.0MB in size. Together with this release are also trial version of Motion Live 2D Plug-in (8.0MB), Face3D Profile for Motion Live 2D Plug-in (26.0MB), and Live Face (iPhone) Profile for Motion Live 2D Plug-in (4.0MB). :)

By pgibouin - 7 Years Ago

generally_happy (4/30/2019)

I really do think we'll see it within the next 24 hours, or April 30th USA time. It's just hard to be patient. I have CTA1, 2 and 3, and this is the most excited I've been for a reallusion product.

Yes, so am I. I don't think Peter from RL will come here evryday saying there is a new 24 hours delay :-)
We'll probably get it in the afternoon of April 30th in Americas, during the night of 30th to May 1st in Europe and in the morning of May 1st in Asia.

All my support to the Reallusion team, I'm sure they're working hard to bring us the best product they can.

By stuwhit - 7 Years Ago

Hi All, Im downloading CTA4 Pipeline Now. Check your accounts. Im UK. :)

By pgibouin - 7 Years Ago

[quote]stuwhit (4/30/2019)

Hi All, Im downloading CTA4 Pipeline Now. Check your accounts. Im UK. :)[/quote

Nothing for me but I was not eligible for the free update to CA4, we still can not upgrade to CA4 by paying the license update. I think they need to update the website as well to allow customers to upgrade. Probably in the next hours.
I'm in France.

By pgibouin - 7 Years Ago

The website has been updated, evrybody can now upgrade. CA4 is really a very promising tool for 2D animation.
Pipeline version is at a reasonnable price, even for the other bundles it price is OK, but I find expensive the all in one version (mandatory if you want to use Apple Face ID function) - $449 !!

We are clearly moving to a professional grade software.

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

coolhewitt24 (4/30/2019)

Hi Everyone,

30th April 2019 @ 9:30 am Asia. I predict a 90% that their products won't be released until May.

take care everyone

You were wrong. Feel free to apologise for doubting us. :P

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

generally_happy (4/30/2019)

I really do think we'll see it within the next 24 hours, or April 30th USA time. It's just hard to be patient. I have CTA1, 2 and 3, and this is the most excited I've been for a reallusion product.

You were correct. Cartoon Animator 4 is now available. :)

https://www.reallusion.com/cartoon-animator/

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

pgibouin (4/30/2019)

All my support to the Reallusion team, I'm sure they're working hard to bring us the best product they can.

Thank you for your kind words. The whole RL team appreciate it. :)

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

technicely (4/29/2019)

When will receive information about the MOCAP? Will this be built in or a separate purchase available at the same time?

You can find out all about the facial motion capture options on the page below (Available Now).

https://www.reallusion.com/cartoon-animator/2d-facial-motion-capture/default.html

By ezupowam - 7 Years Ago

How can I get "Coupon Code"?

By AlanN - 7 Years Ago

Shocked to find that some of the promised features are an additional cost, don't remember reading that before today. despite MOCAP for the iphoneX being part of CTA3 its now another $199 or $99 for the webcam version.

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

ezupowam (4/30/2019)

How can I get "Coupon Code"?

Coupon codes or vouchers are normally sent to customers via email as part of special offers or as a bithday gift etc.

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

AlanN (4/30/2019)

Hi...

The Live Face function in CTA3 was only a facial mocap solution that worked with iPhone X. However to provide a complete and powerful live performance system in CTA4 we needed a new mocap platform that will offer more possibilities (for body, hands etc.) in the future. That is why we developed the Motion LIVE 2D Plug-in, Face3D profile, and LIVE FACE (iPhone) profile.

Furthermore, since CTA4 has the 360 Head Creator function, the facial mocap data through 2D Motion LIVE to CTA4 can also now display up to 360° angle definition.

However, as not everyone needs these live performance features, we have made it into an optional plug-in so only users that need this solution, will be required to pay for it.

In the meantime, CTA3 Pro and Pipeline users can still use the Live Face function in CTA3 to do facial motion capture and import the motion data to CTA4. This motion data is compatible with both CTA3 and CTA4.

Please note: The motion data recorded in CTA3 does not have 360° angle definition.

By sumate_it - 7 Years Ago

How much for upgrade CTA3 to CA4 with Facial Mocap Bundle ?

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

sumate_it (4/30/2019)

How much for upgrade CTA3 to CA4 with Facial Mocap Bundle ?

The upgrade price for the Facial Mocap Bundle should be $219 (Full price $398). Note: Prices can change slightly from user to user depending on your previous version purchases.

You can upgrade HERE.

By scribbley3rd - 7 Years Ago

I'm feeling very undervalued as a customer.
Correct me if I'm wrong but at the time of writing new customers can get CTA 4 with the Mocap plugin for $249. Existing customers get it for $219..
As a customer who's had V3 for less than 8 months it feels poor and this is from someone who worked in the software publishing industry for over 12 years.
$30 saving is a bit mean and I too thought web cam functionality would be included. At least let us get $50 which is 25 percent.... you can't tell me there is 80 percent
new code since the last build of V3.

I'm feeling very disillusioned not reallusioned at the moment. If you'd have been kinder it'd have been a no brainer but now I will have to try the trial and really consider my purchase. Do you sell the plugins separately and how much are they as it doesn't feel like we're saving on them being loyal customers?

Product looks great though and it's just a shame about the above dampening some of our enthusiasm.

By scribbley3rd - 7 Years Ago

For new customers. :)
Make sure you install the trial version and then purchase (from within the trial) as you may get a better price on the bundles you wish to use :)

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

scribbley3rd (4/30/2019)

Hi...

In the launch sale, the CTA4 Facial Mocap Bundle price for new customers is $269, not $249. That means existing customers are saving $50.

Currently, you can also purchase the Motion LIVE 2D plug-in and Face3D profile (Webcam mocap) separately for $99 but you will normally always save money buying a bundle.

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/36425af4-d7a7-41c8-a6bd-0738.png

By AlanN - 7 Years Ago

At the risk of sounding argumentative. We should NOT be paying for something we already had in a previous release (even if it was allegedly less capable), retaining the old version to fill the gap is a nonsense. in the product roadmap we have been seeing for many months, the mocap features were never listed as optional extras..
I'll say no more

By panjin1107 - 7 Years Ago

It was said that,people who buy CTA3 pro or pipeline can get a free 4,where is it?I have CrazyTalk Animator 3 PRO (Apple Store)，buy at 03/08/2019，

By scribbley3rd - 7 Years Ago

Sorry Peter, Happy to be wrong.

If you install the trial version of CTA 4 and goto upgrade
(I'm not logged in as it opens a different browser).
On the upgrade page the upgrade price is clearly $249 for the mo cap and Pipeline.
(you save $149)

I'm pretending to be a new regular customer here and this is what I see on my screen.
Also it's not really a trial when you can't record using the mo cap just see a preview. The icons are the same as previous versions and it just feels a bit rushed sadly.
Again saving $30 over a regular customer doesn't feel fair to me. At $199 or below I wouldn't be typing here I'd have gone for it and felt like a valued customer and wear
my facebook badge with pride.

By scribbley3rd - 7 Years Ago

Peter (RL) (4/30/2019)

scribbley3rd (4/30/2019)

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/d40dbca2-b7ca-491e-8a39-bc80.png

I am registered blind, maybe that's effecting something here. :D

By Redspark - 7 Years Ago

When I log in and go to Buy CTA4, my price is $149. I purchased in December during the sale that was suppose to get CTA4 for free. Am I trying to upgrade the wrong way? Thanks.

James

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

panjin1107 (4/30/2019)

It was said that,people who buy CTA3 pro or pipeline can get a free 4,where is it?I have CrazyTalk Animator 3 PRO (Apple Store)，buy at 03/08/2019，

The buy CTA3 get CTA4 FREE offer applied to purchases of qualifying bundles from the Reallusion Store. The offer did not apply to purchases of just CrazyTalk Animator 3 Pro or Pipeline on their own. It had to be one of the special bundles that were listed in the Reallusion Store during the promotion.

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

Redspark (4/30/2019)

When I log in and go to Buy CTA4, my price is $149. I purchased in December during the sale that was suppose to get CTA4 for free. Am I trying to upgrade the wrong way? Thanks.

James

Hi James

As I mentioned to another user, the buy CTA3 get CTA4 FREE offer applied to purchases of qualifying bundles from the Reallusion Store. The offer did not apply to purchases of just CrazyTalk Animator 3 Pro or Pipeline on its own. If you only purchased CrazyTalk Animator 3 Pipeline on its own and not part of one of the qualifying bundles, then sadly you won't be entitled to free copy of Cartoon Animator 4.

By Redspark - 7 Years Ago

Peter (RL) (4/30/2019)

I have to say, that I didn't find that very clear from the promotion. I clicked on the promotion and bought CTA3 Pipeline specifically for the free upgrade. If CT3 Pipeline was not a qualifying option, why was it on the purchase page at all? As a first time buyer, that was clearly confusing. You have to make these things idiot proof or idiots like me won't get it. ;)

I did purchase the Motion library and the G2 Power Tools afterward but I don't suppose that counts towards it. :(

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

scribbley3rd (4/30/2019)

As I mentioned in a previous post, prices can vary slightly due to past purchases and there are often special offers being run such as offers for trial users. The price of $269 is the price a new customer would pay who is visiting the Reallusion Store for the first time.

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

Redspark (4/30/2019)

If CT3 Pipeline was not a qualifying option, why was it on the purchase page at all?

The purchase page of the Store lists all products for sale which is why CTA3 Pipeline was listed on its own. However, those bundles that included a free copy of CTA4 were clearly marked.

What I would suggest is that you perhaps contact Customer Support and explain that you did purchase other products but not as part of a bundle. They will then be able to let you know if you qualified for a free copy of CTA4. Please use the Support Form below to contact them. Thanks.

https://www.reallusion.com/CustomerSupport/UserEx/QForm.html

By grouchmaxweb - 7 Years Ago

CTA4 has the 360 Head Creator function is this working on the trial version? I cannot see how it is accessed or any specific tutorials? So how do we know if this function is a workable solution.
I also think the upgrades seem to be very expensive. Especially as an elite member

By Sorochek - 7 Years Ago

Hello, I recently purchased CTA3 Pro in your store for a promotion: "Cartoon Animator 4 Pro can be obtained free of charge when you buy CTA3 Pro (US $ 99) at the Reallusion store." Now I have difficulty with poor English, and I can’t find my free copy of Cartoon Animator 4 Pro. I will be very grateful to you if you help me figure out where I can download my copy. Thanks you.

And one more question, with Cartoon Animator 4 Pro, can I import files from Photoshop? Or do I need a Pipeline version for this?

By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago

Sorochek (5/1/2019)

And one more question, with Cartoon Animator 4 Pro, can I import files from Photoshop? Or do I need a Pipeline version for this?

Hi...

As I mentioned to others, the buy CTA3 get CTA4 FREE offer applied to purchases of qualifying bundles from the Reallusion Store. The offer did not apply to single purchases of just CrazyTalk Animator 3 Pro or Pipeline. If you only purchased CrazyTalk Animator 3 Pro on its own and not part of one of the qualifying bundles, then sadly you won't be entitled to free copy of Cartoon Animator 4.

If you have any concerns about this, please contact Customer Support using the link below. They will then be able to confirm for you if you qualified for a free copy of CTA4. Thanks.

https://www.reallusion.com/CustomerSupport/UserEx/QForm.html

By scribbley3rd - 7 Years Ago

grouchmaxweb (5/1/2019)

I was looking at this too trying to work out how we go about setting up a 360 head on a new custom character. I am also struggling with the upgrade price being around 80 percent of the product to new customers. I looked in help to look at what's new and if it's all worth nearly the entire price of the product again in less than a year. Maybe send an email to sales? :)

I'm glad that $30 is a slight amount of money to some but to others it can make a difference if you can easily save it being a new customer :) I'm always for the customer :)