PC Suggestions


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By JmsRyan - 8 Years Ago
I have a Dell XPS-8700 w/Intel i7 4790 and 32Gb RAM and a AMD Radeon RX470 video board. However, it seems very slow.After watching some of the webinars, I realize mine is extremely slow.Any suggestions on this machine, or what to purchase?Thanks!
By rollasoc - 8 Years Ago
I'm about to start building one myself, so currently investigating options.

What is your budget? 

I seem to have started with a £2500 Dell Alienware Aurora R7 spec, and whittled the component price down to about £1900 at the moment.  Hope to find the components cheaper.... Still looking! 

By JmsRyan - 8 Years Ago
No budget...want to stay under $2000
I had a salesman tell me that mine is a great machine and should be sufficient.
However, watching Kai's iRay rendering tutorial made me realize how slow it is. :(
By Rampa - 8 Years Ago
JmsRyan (10/29/2018)
I have a Dell XPS-8700 w/Intel i7 4790 and 32Gb RAM and a AMD Radeon RX470 video board. However, it seems very slow.After watching some of the webinars, I realize mine is extremely slow.Any suggestions on this machine, or what to purchase?Thanks!

It looks like all you need is a new Nvidia GTX card. Get the best one you afford, and that works with your power supply. I think a GTX 1060/6 Gig is a good minimum. The more VRAM, the better.
By kungphu - 8 Years Ago
Prices are way low for the GTX 1080Ti these days with the release of their new products. You have plenty of ram so the card should do the trick.
By JmsRyan - 8 Years Ago
Thanks guys!
I thought getting twice the minimum "2Gb or higher" would do the trick.
Live and learn.
By justaviking - 8 Years Ago
JmsRyan (10/29/2018)
I thought getting twice the minimum "2Gb or higher" would do the trick.


A 2GB "minimum" is actually "below minimum" according to most users here.

2GB = Tragic
4GB = Miminum
6GB = Good
8+ GB = Best

By animagic - 8 Years Ago
justaviking (10/30/2018)
JmsRyan (10/29/2018)
I thought getting twice the minimum "2Gb or higher" would do the trick.


A 2GB "minimum" is actually "below minimum" according to most users here.

2GB = Tragic
4GB = Miminum
6GB = Good
8+ GB = Best


It's sad that the RL sales literature is still not updated to what is realistic. "Minimum" is kind of a meaningless: it will perhaps open iClone, but you can't do anything with it.

I mean, the following for iClone 7 is so painful that it is beyond embarrassing, but it is what candidate users will see:

Dual core CPU
4GB RAM
5GB free hard disk space
Graphics Card: NVidia GeForce GTX 400 Series / AMD Radeon HD 5000 Series
Video Memory: 1GB RAM
Display Resolution: 1024 x 768
Color Depth: True Color (32-bit)

It doesn't matter that the Recommended requirements are slightly better, the listed 2 GB VRAM is inadequate, as Viking points out above.

Also, salespeople in stores have usually no idea (they think in terms of playing games). It's better to ask here first.
By JmsRyan - 8 Years Ago
How's an AMD Radeon RX-570 8Gb sound (only $260)?
A NVidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti w/11Gb is twice as expensive - but, I don't know if I'd gain that much.
I'm running 2 monitors and have a 600w power supply.
By animagic - 8 Years Ago
JmsRyan (10/30/2018)
How's an AMD Radeon RX-570 8Gb sound (only $260)?
A NVidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti w/11Gb is twice as expensive - but, I don't know if I'd gain that much.
I'm running 2 monitors and have a 600w power supply.

Certain features such as Global Illumination and the Iray renderer are only GPU-supported by Nvidia GTX cards. In case of an AMD card, those features use the CPU and system RAM, so they will be less efficient. To be further future-proof I would recommend Nvidia.

I have an Nvidia GTX 1080 with 8 GB VRAM and I run into limits, so 11 GB is no longer a luxury.
By JmsRyan - 8 Years Ago
Thanks!
By Kelleytoons - 8 Years Ago
Yes, you will ABSOLUTELY need an nVidia card, and the more memory the better (some folks just won't tell you the bottom line, but it's true).

I have both the 1080 and the Titan (with 12GB) and I still feel at times I don't have enough GPU.  It's like being too rich or too thin -- you can't.
By JmsRyan - 8 Years Ago
Is "MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11GB 352-bit GDDR5X Video Graphics Card GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11G" the same/good?
By Kelleytoons - 8 Years Ago
It's hard to go wrong with an MSI with those specs.
By kungphu - 8 Years Ago
Yup! 1080Ti should do ya fine. 11gb will do nicely. You shouldn’t run into limitations, plus whenever the next versions of iclone comes out, you’ll be better prepared. As Ani/KT mentioned before, running 8gb you could end up seeing limitations. Especially if you have GI and a bunch of particle FX.
By JmsRyan - 8 Years Ago
Hard to get a hold of an 11Gb...so, I am going with the NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Edition 8GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card
By Kelleytoons - 8 Years Ago
The 1070 works very well -- I actually think it's a better buy than a 1080 (I have a 1070 on one of my machines and it runs nearly as well as my 1080 -- in point of fact, that 1080 isn't even in a machine right now.  I had thought about selling it but if/when iClone ever supports multiple GPUs it might come in handy.  Or it might be hopelessly outdated by then :>).
By kungphu - 8 Years Ago
Hmmm, there should be plenty available on Newegg? For me I did run into issues on a heavy GI scene with multiple particles with a 1070. The 1080 ti was able to handle it no probs.But... that 1070ti was on a laptop. The desktop 1070 has a better performance than the laptop 1070 for sure. So not exactly an apples to apples. If it were me I’d spend the little extra for the additional 3gb of Ram, but that’s based on comparing a laptop 8gb card to a desktop 11gb card. So again, not quite apples to apples.