LIpstick Creation Prop Modification


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By mayaenvogue2016 - 7 Years Ago
Hi,

can anybody explain how can I change a prop mesh so that my lipstick applicator looks authentic? Below there are 2 pics for comparison: the real lipstick applicator has a special top with a "cut-off" look, which is designed to make it easy to apply the lipstick and it is the important feature of  it.  The one I have created - on the other pic-does not. I have tried to combine two props to create a  somehow realistic-looking top, but it is not satisfactory. Maybe anybody can help with a good idea how I can edit mesh, or, even better: Does Reallusion have any specialized prop-creating software? I do not want to use any external prop creating software (like Blender etc) on this stage. Many thanks in advance for your suggestions.


https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/37b7b5b6-03ee-4fac-acaa-6914.jpg

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/b6fa267f-c479-4c72-9532-7ab2.jpg
By wires - 7 Years Ago
There is perhaps a way to what you want using just iClone and Character Creator, but I don't know if the result would be 100% perfect for your needs.

In iClone select one of the default CC characters and then attach a Cylinder from the 3D Block Props folder to it - Cylinder_004 may be the best choice. I wouldn't worry too much about the size of the cylinder at the moment. Select the Character and then select "Edit in Character Creator" in the Modify Tab. In CC select the Cylinder and then "Edit Mesh". It "should" be possible to make adjustments to make it look like a Lipstick.

If, and when, you get the result that you want send the Character, with attached Cylinder, back to iClone. In iClone detach the cylinder from the Character and save it as a Prop that you can use to build your own Lipstick after scaling.
By mark - 7 Years Ago
Brilliant thought Gerry! Never would have thought of that. And while I might have been able to achieve it a little faster in Lightwave or Blender it worked pretty good! Bravo! :D
By 4413Media - 7 Years Ago
There is a way, it is sadly in Blender, but it is incredibly simple and it takes less than a minute to do. It involves a Boolean modifer. When I have the time tonight, I can provide a very quick tutorial covering this or if you are able to, I can easily modify the mesh. 
By wires - 7 Years Ago
Tho OP clearly asked for a solution without using 3rd party SW.
By 4413Media - 7 Years Ago
I am aware of that, but editing the mesh in the software would not achieve the best results in that image above. A Boolean cut with a slight bevel is the easiest and quickest option, plus it will be the best look by producing that sharp cut as seen with the image. Limited options though, it's why I jumped to the Boolean solution. It's a lot easier to have a mesh cut through another with a click of a button than mess with vertices :) 
By JimmyB7 - 7 Years Ago
wires (7/24/2018)
There is perhaps a way to what you want using just iClone and Character Creator, but I don't know if the result would be 100% perfect for your needs.

In iClone select one of the default CC characters and then attach a Cylinder from the 3D Block Props folder to it - Cylinder_004 may be the best choice. I wouldn't worry too much about the size of the cylinder at the moment. Select the Character and then select "Edit in Character Creator" in the Modify Tab. In CC select the Cylinder and then "Edit Mesh". It "should" be possible to make adjustments to make it look like a Lipstick.

If, and when, you get the result that you want send the Character, with attached Cylinder, back to iClone. In iClone detach the cylinder from the Character and save it as a Prop that you can use to build your own Lipstick after scaling.


I tried this just for fun and it works amazingly.  I used the "Smooth" function to shape the cylinder.  I have no final product to show as it would take some effort to get it perfect.  I just wanted to verify it is doable.:D
By JimmyB7 - 7 Years Ago
About 2 minutes in Character Creator
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/6b224516-808a-4746-aace-a156.png
By Delerna - 7 Years Ago
I have seen some comments in the past relating to linking props to characters and working with them in CC but been too busy with other things to look into its possibilities. One thing I do wish is that iClone had a similar ability to adjust objects meshes like CC can with clothes and characters. Now I finally see its possible to send props to CC and edit their meshes there. Thank you for pointing this out wires. Much appreciated and I will definitely be looking into discovering the possibilities of this now.
I still wish we could do it to props in iClone too but it is what it is and I just use whatever I know is available to do what I need.
By Delerna - 7 Years Ago
Oh, and I meant to thank you too JimmyB7 for showing what you did. Helped me to see CC's abilities on this topic for my needs better.
By 4413Media - 7 Years Ago
Gave it a go in iformat and blend.
By mayaenvogue2016 - 7 Years Ago
Thank you Benjamin so much for your  help!!! Since I do not  yet posses 3D exchange, I could not have been able to do it myself.  Now my lipstick gets  its proper and realistic top!!!
By mayaenvogue2016 - 7 Years Ago
Thank you Gerry very much, it is a super idea  when one does not want to use any exterrnal software.... also for the future. Turning a prop into an "accessory" and thus enable modifunig it in CC. The other question is if  I could get that smooth  resul with the furrther props. To this I just accepted  help from Benjamin Tuttle.