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By Ola(RL) - 8 Years Ago
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CrazyTalk Animator Presents
LIVE FACE for LIVE Facial Mocap!
To all CrazyTalk Animator users:
We are here to deliver the new update of CTA 3.3. In this update, you will find a new app called LIVE FACE.
LIVE FACE is an APP for iPhone Face ID (True DepthCamera) that supports Mac and PC CTA 3.3 for 2D animation and custom character design. After setting up the IP connection, CTA3 users can realtime animate cartoon characters’ facial features including; eyeballs, eyes, brows, mouth shapes, and head rotation. Besides generating real-time live shows, users can also record the animated data for further editing.
Beside LIVE FACE, CTA 3.3 also fixed tons of bugs for users to have a better animating experience.
You can 1. Check the new features and bug-fix in CTA 3.3 from version update HERE.
2. Check out the new product page of "LIVE FACE" HERE. 3. Download to the brand new "LIVE FACE" for your iPhone X from HERE.
Bugs Fixed
From the launch to the release of CTA 3.3, Over 32 fixed defects were Released. Check out > Over 20 issues are Assigned to the team to work on, and aim to be released in a future update. Check out > Around 13 issues are set Active for the team to verify and take care of. Check out >
New FeaturesLIVE FACE
An iPhone APP uses Face ID (True DepthCamera) for 2D animation and custom character design. Set up the IP connection to CTA 3.3 and animate facial features including eyeballs, eyebrows, mouth shapes, and head rotations in real time. Generate real time shows and record animation data for further editing.
Zero Pose setup Can be used to initialize the default facial expression unrestricting the setup location with the following benefits: -Freedom to position your iPhone X anywhere you want. -Auto-calibrate painlessly for facial expressions.
Support different Facial Mocap Profiles for both sprite-based and image-based character with front and side facing options.
Support for synchronous facial mocap and audio lip sync. Audio recording requires desktop microphone.
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By orbit anime - 8 Years Ago
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Will you also do LIVE Face for the andoroid-based phone cameras?
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By appleianer - 8 Years Ago
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When is version 3.3 planned in German? I'm sorry, I can't access it.
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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appleianer (6/15/2018)
When is version 3.3 planned in German? I'm sorry, I can't access it.
The German version is normally a few weeks after the English release. Please keep a check on the German website or forum for the release announcement.
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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oerlat_20100215052425578 (6/14/2018)
Will you also do LIVE Face for the andoroid-based phone cameras?
The initial release is for the iPhone X only due to the camera requirements. However we will continue to evaluate other phones that have a compatible camera.
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By plabrie - 8 Years Ago
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It would have been very interesting if there was android too
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By danlcort7 - 8 Years Ago
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I am trying with my Samsung grand prime
but
I dont know why CTA 3.3 Pipeline doesn t open the facial mocap panel .
do you know why , it is new ,
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By garylearntech - 8 Years Ago
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Hi danlcort7, you just said it yourself - you've got a Samsung grand prime, but only the iPhone X is supported initially.
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By sjonesdc - 8 Years Ago
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Will the LIVE Face Mocap work on an iMac? and can the captured facial Mocap be used in iClone?
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By garylearntech - 8 Years Ago
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Hi sjonesdc - Yes, the LIVE Face on an iPhone X will work with CTA 3.3 on an iMac.
I'm not an iClone user, so I don't know about that. Within CTA it is possible, using the Collect Clip functionality, to Export Facial Motion and then reapply that to another character in CTA 3.3. For example:
 
In Content Manager, the files are saved to Animation > Custom > Face. If you can get LIVE Face motion into iClone, then I expect it would be via these files. I've attached the file which was produced in the first image above (MOCAP facial export.ctFCS) and then applied to the second one for you to try this out in iClone yourself.
If you want to install it first into CTA 3.3, drop the unzipped file into this path on your own machine:
/Users/Shared/Reallusion/Custom/CrazyTalk Animator 3 Custom/Face/
Good luck!
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By sjonesdc - 8 Years Ago
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garylearntech (6/17/2018)
Hi sjonesdc - Yes, the LIVE Face on an iPhone X will work with CTA 3.3 on an iMac. I'm not an iClone user, so I don't know about that. Within CTA it is possible, using the Collect Clip functionality, to Export Facial Motion and then reapply that to another character in CTA 3.3. For example: In Content Manager, the files are saved to Animation > Custom > Face. If you can get LIVE Face motion into iClone, then I expect it would be via these files. I've attached the file which was produced in the first image above (MOCAP facial export.ctFCS) and then applied to the second one for you to try this out in iClone yourself. If you want to install it first into CTA 3.3, drop the unzipped file into this path on your own machine: /Users /Shared/Reallusion /Custom /CrazyTalk Animator 3 Custom /Face /
Good luck!
garylearntech,
Thank you for the information and the file. I'm a PC person and just started using a Mac (needed to do this for a new job). I will try your file and let you know.
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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sjonesdc (6/17/2018)
Will the LIVE Face Mocap work on an iMac? and can the captured facial Mocap be used in iClone?
The facial animation captured isn't compatible with iClone. It's for CTA3 only.
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By j-wag - 8 Years Ago
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Any ETA for Android?
Any chance that Faceware will work for this?
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By sjonesdc - 8 Years Ago
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Peter (RL) (6/18/2018)
sjonesdc (6/17/2018)
Will the LIVE Face Mocap work on an iMac? and can the captured facial Mocap be used in iClone?
The facial animation captured isn't compatible with iClone. It's for CTA3 only.
I found that out!
Thanks!
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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j-wag (6/22/2018)
Any ETA for Android?
Any chance that Faceware will work for this?
It isn't simply about an iOS or Android version sadly. The strict requirement is the Face ID system that is only built into the iPhone X. That is why the iPhone 8, 7, 6 etc. aren't supported because they don't have Face ID cameras. However with new developments coming along, it is possible we may see the same system on other platforms so an Android version may come at some point.
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By j-wag - 8 Years Ago
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Thanks Peter. $1350-1550 in Canada for an iPhoneX.
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By Diamond D - 8 Years Ago
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Good idea but unless they come out with a webcam pc version, it's useless for me. Not all of us can afford such phones as I'm basically retired and on fixed income, not to mention the cost to upgrade to CTA3.3, you don't make it easy for people like me and I'm sure a few others on here to make any extra money. I've spent thousands on your products over the years, but not a whole lot to show for it. Sorry, but had to vent and get my 2 cents in.
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By rfbindl - 8 Years Ago
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Why not use computer camera (like Adobe does) instead of iPhone or Android? Or will you support that?
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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Diamond D (6/27/2018)
not to mention the cost to upgrade to CTA3.3, you don't make it easy for people like me and I'm sure a few others on here to make any extra money.
If you already have CrazyTalk Animator 3 there is no cost to upgrade to version 3.3. It's a free upgrade.
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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rfbindl (6/28/2018)
Why not use computer camera (like Adobe does) instead of iPhone or Android? Or will you support that?
Unfortunately the technology we are currently using requires an iPhone X. It won't work with standard webcams. However we are always looking at alternative options for the future.
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By 51fxdesigner - 8 Years Ago
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As a long time registered user of both CrazyTalk (since Ver. 4) and Animator - I have been a loyal advocate for promoting Reallusion Products and Software.
However, as an Android User I am VERY DISAPPOINTED that REALLUSION takes the position of supporting only iPhone devices.
I PAID the same amount for the software as iPhone / Apple users, but get FEWER FEATURES than an Apple / iPhone user.
As of April 2018 - Android devices OUTSELL iPhone devices with a 55% marketshare compared to the iPhone marketshare of 44%** As compiled by Statista.com and yet, REALLUSION chooses NOT to support Android OS devices. You justify your reasoning with a referral to facial ID UI - when in fact there are other methods (available TODAY) that allow ALL USERS to utilize their phone or WEBCam, regardless of its OS to do realtime / neartime Motion Facial Capture.
It is obvious, just in the short time frame since the 3.3 update, (CTA 3) - that there is a market demand for a similar feature for us who use and are happy with Android devices.
Reallusion - you are walking a slippery slope - I don't think you want to alienate YOUR market share of Android users by touting (RATHER LOUDLY) this new feature for iPhone owners ONLY. Companies larger than yours have miscalculated the demand/requirements of their users and frankly - only to fall into the abyss of - "they were great at one time..."
We should not be penalized because we use a device that outsells the iPhone. I personally feel, you are missing a great opportunity by willfully slighting CTAnimator Customers who own Android devices. This position needs to be re-examined.
I support Reallusion - but the lack of features offered to others for the SAME SOFTWARE, AT THE SAME PRICE is morally wrong! I especially get miffed when hard statements include: "To all CrazyTalk Animator users:" when in fact, the announcement is only for a segment of CTA users, NOT ALL. Reallusion, you are on the verge of making a tactical error in judgement. A statement I don't make or take lightly - it is not a threat, however - the bottomline is this - if you are bent on supporting only a fraction of your CTA users - then as a user, we will have no choice but to look elsewhere, when as a software developer you choose to shine us on, with vague commitments for desired and viable features and nothing more than "Maybe in a future release..."
This scenario is somewhat similar to when CTALK 7 was introduced as new and improved over CTALK 6, until its users realized multiple characters were not supported anymore. I appreciate and understand change happens - but to be selective as to who gets to use new features and who doesn't just doesn't sit well. (Kind of reminds me of the French Revolution and the mis-steps of Marie Antoinette & King Louis XVI - it didn't end well for them either).
Reallusion, I am not the enemy - I am offering some common sense advice - Having been in the animation arena, for over 30 years, I have earned the right to express a perspective as an end-user of your otherwise quality product(s), and provide some constructive criticism now and again. At the same time, when you do something worthy of applause, I have no problem with exclaiming your merits to one and all (<< AND HAVE!).
For those who have a need for a similar product (not quite Apples to Apples << no pun intended), there is a software called FaceRig by Holotech Studios that does facial MoCap with no special 3rd party hardware other than your Android phone (and camera - works with a WEBcam as well). It does NOT compete in the same manner as CTA, therefore there should be no harm mentioning the product here - There are several flavors of the software AND the animation is quite good AND it records / animates speech. It is available via STEAM. I want to be clear - I am an animator, nothing more - I am not promoting anything other than a possible solution for those who wish to find an alternative to a feature NOT AVAILABLE to Android Users.
Do a simple Google search for more info.
There is an image attached of the "live" handshaking between your Android device and a Desktop PC.
C'mon Reallusion - the technology already exists - Android users DON'T want to go elsewhere - but stop slapping us in the face with features we can't utilize.
EXPERIENCED Registered User - CTALK Pipeline CTA 3.3
FX Designer
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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Hi...
Thank you for the feedback. This has been passed to the CTA team for review.
We do understand the disappointment felt that this new feature is currently only available to iPhone X users, but we will certainly look at other facial mocap options for future upgrades.
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By Rogue Anime - 8 Years Ago
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Well, in this case I have to agree with the above user & relay my sincere disappointment as well on this subject. I was REALLY excited about the new CTA3 features until I realized I don't have that $1000. phone it takes to actually USE these exciting new features. (& after springing the full Monty for the double Neuron, I couldn't afford the 'Faceware' for my iClone, so this was a heckuva teaser)
Sorry, Peter, but I have this 'thing' about Apple, and I will NOT use their products @ALL. I should hope this post helps you folks over there, as we REALLY wanted this as well, and we're out in the cold freezin' :crying: ~V~
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By 51fxdesigner - 8 Years Ago
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Peter (RL) (6/29/2018)
Hi...
Thank you for the feedback. This has been passed to the CTA team for review.
We do understand the disappointment felt that this new feature is currently only available to iPhone X users, but we will certainly look at other facial mocap options for future upgrades.
I am NOT trying to be unreasonable - but this just should not be the case - I have no clue as to how REALLUSION determines what features to add / remove from their products, but providing what is essentially "CRIPPLE-WARE' for a percentage of your users is for lack of a better term, unprofessional.
Dangling a carrot that only SOME of us can enjoy, only incites an angry mob mentality. (<< LOOK! There I am, among the crowd! - Hi Mom!)
Making comments like, "We do understand the disappointment felt" is an insult. Peter, I have no doubt you are being sincere, but it doesn't address or offer a plausible solution. I am fortunate enough to have alternative methods to achieving similar results, as advertised for iPhone users regarding CTA 3.3 - but it is very apparent, many users of CTA 3 don't have that option. To be clear, we have access to iPhones - but on a personal level, I prefer and use Android devices - I'm just not an 'Apple techie'. Yes, I realize that's a choice I willingly made, but it doesn't excuse RL from the impact of the decision they made.
DESIGN 101 - When creating software / products / presentations - you MUST have the goal of making your effort obtainable to the masses, not for a select few. Cross-platform compatibility and function is a key component to success and use of any given brand / product / entity. To not adhere to this basic premise, will only court disaster.
It is apparent here! Instead of focusing on the merits of this feature - you (RL) are having to address users like myself from a position of defense and offer meek apologies - And imply (intentional or otherwise), it's NOT RL's fault we chose to use an Android OS instead of an iPhone - and to that end, this "feature" is very narrow in scope and use regarding compatibility with other iPhone models. Thinking outloud here - I just feel there was a RUSH to release this without a clear objective as to who you are marketing this feature to. Did RL really believe there would be no blow back or shade from users who can't access / use this obviously popular tool?
Respectfully, whoever thought releasing this feature for just SOME CTA 3 users, is a bonehead. Offering this as a BETA or Unofficial Feature Release, might have been a better option - but to simply shutout so many other users - is just illogical. Sorry.
I like, support (purchase) and use your mainstream products as well as several add-ons (RL and 3rd party). But I'm telling you - unless RL takes a more serious approach to supporting ALL of their users (CTA3), it will be a mistake, that in the end, will cost you loyalty, product purchases and positive reviews.
FX Designer
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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Hi 51fxdesigner,
It is important to remember that all the plug-ins we release have certain hardware requirements. For example in iClone to use Perception Neuron full body motion capture requires hardware in excess of $1500. Even facial mocap in iClone requires a plug-in ($900+) plus a good quality webcam.
While it may feel different for CTA3 because the hardware requirement is a phone, the situation is the same. It is simply a hardware requirement and nothing to do with iPhone vs Android. It also does not cripple CTA3 if you don't have the hardware. Like all plug-ins that require additional purchase, these features are optional and not a requirement.
So really the question is, if the requirement was a generic $1000 piece of hardware instead of an iPhone would you feel differently?
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By 51fxdesigner - 8 Years Ago
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Peter (RL) (7/2/2018)
Hi 51fxdesigner,
It is important to remember that all the plug-ins we release have certain hardware requirements.
While it may feel different for CTA3 because the hardware requirement is a phone, the situation is the same. It is simply a hardware requirement and nothing to do with iPhone vs Android. It also does not cripple CTA3 if you don't have the hardware. Like all plug-ins that require additional purchase, these features are optional and not a requirement.
So really the question is, if the requirement was a generic $1000 piece of hardware instead of an iPhone would you feel differently?
Peter,
I appreciate the feedback.
As mentioned earlier, it is not personally an issue with me, because (fortunately) I have both access to an iPhone X with its built-in depth camera AND I have access to several MoCap softwares using an ordinary webcam for realtime facial capture as well as several apps that support MoCap on an Android device.
I have no issue whatsoever with RL's release of a 3rd party dependent "plug-in". However..
My point in this entire conversation was how RL took the position of clearly having a feature that pits the haves against the have nots.
Also RL's position / defense as you again mentioned in your comment - regarding a requirement for a 3rd party hardware proprietary handshake between CTA3 and 3rd party is not always true in terms of having to make an outlandish purchase for certain types of motion capture.
While best quality is always the objective, acceptable results can be achieved with lower end / consumer grade hardware/software.
My constructive criticism, was directed to the fact - CTA3 and/or RL's powers that be, made a deliberate decision to only support a limited user base who happen to have a specific iPhone model. I accept that - the problem I had was (and is how) the "feature" is being advertised on the CTA3 product page(s).
I use / enjoy / promote Reallusion products (both on a personal and professional level) - have for years and will continue to do so.
My disappointment was simply the fact RL at the time of this launch, only offered a MoCap solution for a small sector of RL's users. That was compounded by follow-up statements that clearly did not address any timeframe or solution for the "REST OF US".
It is my hope RL continues to explore a MoCap solution (plug-in) for Android and/or WEBCam devices compatible with CTA3. And if so, a solution is brought to the masses sooner, rather than later.
Specifically addressing your last statement regarding a 3rd party generic hardware requirement versus an iPhone - YES I would view it differently.
A number of us, do not care for or support Apple products for a variety of reasons, admittedly some are personal in nature (an inherent bias) and some are with merit.
Privacy concerns regarding facial recognition is one of my red flags - in particular, how some ToS (terms of service) and licensing protect the brand, but not the user and how those who accept these agreements in exchange for using the application, basically in many instances, give up control / protection of their personal content / data / face. While not a fanatic or necessarily paranoid about what may be transmitted or shared, I still have a healthy respect for what is individually mine, (if only an illusion).
I am old enough to remember when (and use) the first generation of computers (both PC and MAC) - it was then, given a choice, for both work and personal use, I chose PCs. Over the years, I have used Apple products from time to time, but I am a PC person. Its technology has served me well and as my work today is selective and not a means for required income, I still am of the same mindset to stay loyal to the PC brand.
A brief illustration - last year my wife's iPhone had battery issues - it took no fewer than 3 appointments, 2 trips to an Apple store and a series of long waits to only be told, the battery / phone could not be repaired - AND another iPhone purchase was the only solution.
This year, my Samsung Galaxy needed its battery replaced. I went online, made the purchase, two days later I got my shipment and replaced the battery, (including free shipping) for less than $20 USD.
FX Designer
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By Piotrastra - 8 Years Ago
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A lot of excitement about android. I'm also a bit disappointed, but reallusion is an American company, so they think about the local market first (iPhone is primarily used in the USA, isn't it). I hope however they will try to extend it to Android soon. Maybe it's just the ninitial phase and later Android will find it's Live Face too. :-)
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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51fxdesigner (7/2/2018)
It is my hope RL continues to explore a MoCap solution (plug-in) for Android and/or WEBCam devices compatible with CTA3. And if so, a solution is brought to the masses sooner, rather than later.
Thank you for explaining more. We do appreciate you taking the time to share your feedback.
Please be assured we will be exploring all options for mocap in CTA3 so hopefully we can offer some good news for non iPhone users in a future upgrade/version.
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By richardgaspa - 8 Years Ago
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What!!! You mean I can't use the LIVE feature because I don't own an iPhone? Why can't I use this feature with my Google Pixel? I have been supporting your company from the very start paying for upgraded versions year after year. Do you not value me as a customer just because I use a Google Pixel and not an iPhone? I spend the same price as an iPhone customer, but now don't get the same features. Almost sounds like a class action suit in the making. - Deplorable customer service at the very least.
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By garylearntech - 8 Years Ago
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@richardgaspa Yet. You can't use the live feature yet.
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By Ola(RL) - 8 Years Ago
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51fxdesigner (6/29/2018)
As a long time registered user of both CrazyTalk (since Ver. 4) and Animator - I have been a loyal advocate for promoting Reallusion Products and Software.
However, as an Android User I am VERY DISAPPOINTED that REALLUSION takes the position of supporting only iPhone devices.
I PAID the same amount for the software as iPhone / Apple users, but get FEWER FEATURES than an Apple / iPhone user.
As of April 2018 - Android devices OUTSELL iPhone devices with a 55% marketshare compared to the iPhone marketshare of 44%** As compiled by Statista.com and yet, REALLUSION chooses NOT to support Android OS devices. You justify your reasoning with a referral to facial ID UI - when in fact there are other methods (available TODAY) that allow ALL USERS to utilize their phone or WEBCam, regardless of its OS to do realtime / neartime Motion Facial Capture.
It is obvious, just in the short time frame since the 3.3 update, (CTA 3) - that there is a market demand for a similar feature for us who use and are happy with Android devices.
Reallusion - you are walking a slippery slope - I don't think you want to alienate YOUR market share of Android users by touting (RATHER LOUDLY) this new feature for iPhone owners ONLY. Companies larger than yours have miscalculated the demand/requirements of their users and frankly - only to fall into the abyss of - "they were great at one time..."
We should not be penalized because we use a device that outsells the iPhone. I personally feel, you are missing a great opportunity by willfully slighting CTAnimator Customers who own Android devices. This position needs to be re-examined.
I support Reallusion - but the lack of features offered to others for the SAME SOFTWARE, AT THE SAME PRICE is morally wrong! I especially get miffed when hard statements include: "To all CrazyTalk Animator users:" when in fact, the announcement is only for a segment of CTA users, NOT ALL. Reallusion, you are on the verge of making a tactical error in judgement. A statement I don't make or take lightly - it is not a threat, however - the bottomline is this - if you are bent on supporting only a fraction of your CTA users - then as a user, we will have no choice but to look elsewhere, when as a software developer you choose to shine us on, with vague commitments for desired and viable features and nothing more than "Maybe in a future release..."
This scenario is somewhat similar to when CTALK 7 was introduced as new and improved over CTALK 6, until its users realized multiple characters were not supported anymore. I appreciate and understand change happens - but to be selective as to who gets to use new features and who doesn't just doesn't sit well. (Kind of reminds me of the French Revolution and the mis-steps of Marie Antoinette & King Louis XVI - it didn't end well for them either).
Reallusion, I am not the enemy - I am offering some common sense advice - Having been in the animation arena, for over 30 years, I have earned the right to express a perspective as an end-user of your otherwise quality product(s), and provide some constructive criticism now and again. At the same time, when you do something worthy of applause, I have no problem with exclaiming your merits to one and all (<< AND HAVE!).
For those who have a need for a similar product (not quite Apples to Apples << no pun intended), there is a software called FaceRig by Holotech Studios that does facial MoCap with no special 3rd party hardware other than your Android phone (and camera - works with a WEBcam as well). It does NOT compete in the same manner as CTA, therefore there should be no harm mentioning the product here - There are several flavors of the software AND the animation is quite good AND it records / animates speech. It is available via STEAM. I want to be clear - I am an animator, nothing more - I am not promoting anything other than a possible solution for those who wish to find an alternative to a feature NOT AVAILABLE to Android Users.
Do a simple Google search for more info.
There is an image attached of the "live" handshaking between your Android device and a Desktop PC.
C'mon Reallusion - the technology already exists - Android users DON'T want to go elsewhere - but stop slapping us in the face with features we can't utilize.
EXPERIENCED Registered User - CTALK Pipeline CTA 3.3
FX Designer
Hi oerlat_20100215052425578 and all other CTA users
Reallusion has heard your voices and we are here to offer you some clarifications.
1. Why did Reallusion choose iPhone X only for live facial mocap?
As Apple announced iPhone X around the end of last year, Reallusion saw the demonstration of what "True Depth Camera" can do to Animoji.
We instantly started the development of using its capability to track up to 57 face signals to create live facial mocap.
While others are announcing their plans about connecting iPhone X, Reallusion had already launched "LIVE FACE" for CTA3.
The reason, sore reason, we choose iPhone X is because the animation quality it provides.
2. Can we say this feature is for All CTA 3 Users?
Yes, we can.
Why?
No one knows about this outside Reallusion yet.
Connecting with iPhone X is only the first step of CTA3 live facial motion capture. (as mentioned, iPhone X provides ready-to-use and high quality hardware.)
In our NEXT CrazyTalk Animator BIG UPDATE, CTA will be able to support RGB cam.
I can not say when or which version, but with the success of connecting with iPhone X, it brings us closer to this goal.
So, I would say this eventually will benefits all future CrazyTalk Animator users.
3. Why did we choose not to connecting with Android system now?
Sadly, the current Android phones do not provide tracking system as accurate as the "True Depth Camera" of iPhone X.
However, once there is an Android model which provides the solution, we will not hesitate to connect.
Hope this clarify things.
CTA 3.3 + LIVE FACE on iPhone X = live 2D facial mocap
This is a process, not a destination.
BR,
Ola
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By cbyas - 8 Years Ago
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That is a non answer answer if I ever read one.
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By 51fxdesigner - 8 Years Ago
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Ola (RL) -
As a CTA3 user, I DO appreciate the feedback.
I mean no offense, but once again, in re-reading this response several times:
1) we are no closer to a plausible solution for Android Users of CTA3
2) frankly, I was taken aback by the seemingly 'cavalier' attitude as referenced
by your response with: "Can we say this feature is for All CTA3 Users? Yes, we can. Why? No one knows about this outside Reallusion yet. .... I can not say when or which version..." Huh!?!, What? As of this post - Yes, you can state that - BUT it isn't the truth.
I'm not here to make trouble, honest - but stop with the PR babble. The fact remains, there is
NO SOLUTION currently available to ANDROID users of your CTA3 product.
I also am dismayed by the comment regarding:
"Sadly, the current Android phones do not provide tracking system as accurate as the "True Depth Camera" of iPhone X."
AGAIN - NOT A TRUE STATEMENT - Right now, I have a Windows 7 OS that is using an Android Samsung 4 MINI << (About
as low end as it gets (consumer-wise)), that is ported via a USB port handshake as a "lab-grade" test bench WEBCam that
interfaces with a product called FACERig (which is an older technology as well - circa 2012-2014, since updated thru 2018) and
allows for REAL-TIME MoCAP and is as accurate as your iPhone X. << SEE FOR YOURSELF, just Google 'FaceRig on Steam'.
My point is this - the technology DOES exist for Android Devices (and WebCAMS) to interact with MoCAP applications.
From their inception - APPLE has always been an US versus the world mentality / technology - I at one timed owned one of the very
first IBM 2 drive Floppy* (5.25" Disk) computers AND NO HARD DRIVE with a single Intel 8088 Processor @ 4.77MHz << and these disks*
did actually flop (bend). I then migrated to the XT (w/10MB HDD) CGA Display (16 colors) and upgraded again and again and again up to today
using multi-core processors with 64GB of RAM and $1,000.00 PC-based Nvidia graphic cards with 5TB HDDs along with 32" flat screen monitors (dual).
Just like the hardware 'evolution' described here, I have no doubt Reallusion will offer some type of resolution for MoCAP for Android users of CTA (Version
to be determined). The only question is - in what year?
The above mentioned MoCAP (via STEAM) is quite capable of some impressive AVATAR facial expression and capture.
The tracking is very accurate and the feedback from the camera (or Android phone) is nearly realtime and can be used
in a variety of ways.
RL you obviously will do what you think best for your business model. Which is fine. I would suggest however, that if there
is no real progress yet, then simply stop dangling that 'carrot' in front of the masses with no real tangible results. It's like
poking a hornet's nest in a willow. At some point, you will get stung and it won't be pleasant.
Respectfully,
FX Designer
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By aniacha - 8 Years Ago
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There is something missing in CT Animator 3.3
Hi, I'm a new user but i hit something strange at the begining.
I can't see PSD Out button in Composer Mode, Icon is missing!
Is that bug or am I doing something wrong?
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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aniacha (11/7/2018)
There is something missing in CT Animator 3.3
Hi, I'm a new user but i hit something strange at the begining.
I can't see PSD Out button in Composer Mode, Icon is missing!
Is that bug or am I doing something wrong?
Hi... A couple of things to check:
1. Do you have Crazytalk Animator 3 Pipeline? Only the Pipeline version has PSD in and out.
2. Do you have a G2 character loaded in Composer mode? If so that will be the problem. G2 characters do not support PSD in or out. Try loading a G3 character and check again.
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By aniacha - 8 Years Ago
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I got CT Animator PRO, now I get it. Is there any way to upgrade my version to Pipeline?
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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aniacha (11/8/2018)
I got CT Animator PRO, now I get it. Is there any way to upgrade my version to Pipeline?
If you have just purchased Crazytalk Animator 3 Pro (within the last 14 days), then you could simply request a refund for the Pro version from Customer Support and then buy the Pipeline version. That often works out the most cost effective. Alternatively if it is outside of the 14 days, you can upgrade by visiting the page below. If you ensure you are logged into your Reallusion Account you will see the Member Upgrade price.
https://www.reallusion.com/store/product.html?l=1&p=cta
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By magnoliaPower - 8 Years Ago
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Hi everybody,
I would like to thank Reallusion to create this LiveFace App. It is enjoyable in CT3 (and more expensive with iClone because I had to buy the profile to use it ;).
To the people who are disappointed: were you so angry when Adobe Premiere became compatible with the 4K camera despite the fact you don't have any 4k camera? Were you so wroth when the GoPro app was able to handle Fusion 360 camera despite you just have a simple GoPro? And when your 3D software editor announced it could handle multiple GPU? Was it so scandalous that some of us could afford multiple GPU servers for rendering while other has "only" an outdated graphics card? Many other examples could be found.
It is a fact: iPhone has a very specific hardware that no other smartphones have. But soon, there will be a competitor with such hardware configuration.
As an iPhone user, I would have been so disappointed if Reallusion would have announced it could make this improvement but would not just because it is not possible with other phones nowadays.
I strongly believe that Reallusion would prefer to offer an Android equivalent, just to increase her revenues and make happy customers!
So, thanks again. And just not focus to that point (it is a good to have, not a must-have), CT3 and soon CT4 (or whatever its name) offer so much otherwise.
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By communitylife - 8 Years Ago
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Is Liveface (via iphone x) able to detect eye movements while wearing glasses.
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By Peter (RL) - 8 Years Ago
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communitylife (12/28/2018)
Is Liveface (via iphone x) able to detect eye movements while wearing glasses.
Yes eye movement can still be captured even when wearing glasses.
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By c.r.clothier - 7 Years Ago
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Hi,
I was just thinking about buying CTA 3 and this feature would be a real selling point as someone with little real experience in animation. I had a look on the iTunes App Store at the app and saw that it was free. However there was just one review for the app and in that review it mentions that there is an additional $400 charge to be able to use this feature. I have had a look on the Reallusion website and found no mention (as far as I could find) to any additional fee for this feature.
I just wished to know, is there a fee on top of the price of the CTA 3 software for this feature? Or is it included in the price?
Thank you
Chris
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By Peter (RL) - 7 Years Ago
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Hi Chris
There is a trial version which is free to try but the full version requires purchasing. There are three versions available with different feature sets. If you are interested in creating your own characters you will need at least the Pro version. However, if you only plan to use the included characters or characters purchased in the Content Store, then you can just go for the Standard version. You can see the full list of differences HERE.
And to find the current prices, including bundles that include a FREE update to Cartoon Animator 4, please go HERE.
I hope this helps a little.
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