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By MAe12 - 7 Years Ago
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Is there any way of moving the light controls or for that matter any other control widget from always being in the center of the screen?
It's always been an annoying aspect of iClone as it covers items from time to time.
Thanx,
MA
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By animagic - 7 Years Ago
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MAe12 (6/8/2018)
Is there any way of moving the light controls or for that matter any other control widget from always being in the center of the screen?
It's always been an annoying aspect of iClone as it covers items from time to time.
Thanx,
MA
For me the controls always appear at the side of the view port:
Are they in the center of the view port for you?
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By MAe12 - 7 Years Ago
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Thanx and I should have elaborated a bit. The directional light always shows in the center of the viewport. A spotlight or point light always has the move/rotate widget attached directly to the light so if the light is out of the viewport I can see no way of moving/rotating it unless I use the clunky XYZ up/down arrows which is abysmally slow. As there is no way I can find of opening another viewport with a different view, (the mini viewport is useless) it makes it very difficult to control fine lighting aspects.
Thanx,
MA
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By wires - 7 Years Ago
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Select a light in the Scene Manager tab - make sure that it is set to visible - and then click on the "Home" button at the top:
This will show the light, or any asset, almost full screen in the project window. You can now use the Move/Rotate Gizmos to make any required adjustments. You can zoom out in the scene to view what changes are being made, always with your light still selected.
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By MAe12 - 7 Years Ago
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Gerry,
Thanx but I know how to do all of this in iClone. What I'm referring to is moving/rotating a light when it's out of the scene. The only way to currently do so that I see is with the up/down arrows in the XYZ controls for the selected light. As there is no way to have a different viewpoint open it's a pain to work with lights in iClone.
Thanx,
MA
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By wires - 7 Years Ago
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If you add a 3D Block to the scene, place it where you can always see it, make it a Dummy object and Link a Light to it you can now rotate and move the Light by selecting the Box. Pressing Ctrl+D will hide the Dummy, but you can still select it in the Scene Manager and the Gizmos will be visible when making adjustments. It's best to give each Light control Dummy the same name as the Light being controlled.
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By raxel_67 - 7 Years Ago
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Use the transform section in the modify tab with your light selected, there you can either manually enter values or you can use your mouse scroll to change the values and if you ctrl+scroll the values are changed in larger increments ( could be shift+scroll, sorry too many softwares too many shortcuts). With this method you can adjust a spot light that is outside camera View very quickly
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By MAe12 - 7 Years Ago
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Thanx guys for the feedback but creating a dummy means that the object must always be visible in the scene.
Also, as I mentioned earlier, using the transform controls is very clunky...if they had scrubby sliders, that would be better but the modicum of control used now just plain sucks.
Thanx again,
MA
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By wires - 7 Years Ago
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MAe12 (6/10/2018)
Thanx guys for the feedback but creating a dummy means that the object must always be visible in the scene.
Also, as I mentioned earlier, using the transform controls is very clunky...if they had scrubby sliders, that would be better but the modicum of control used now just plain sucks.
Thanx again,
MA
Dummies do not have to be visible in the scene to use, and they are also not rendered.
Below only the Dummy outline is visible, along with the Rotate Gizmo:
In the screen grab below the Dummy outline visibility has been turned Off in the Scene Manager, but it can still be selected and the Position and Rotation adjusted using the Gizmo:
It is not even required to have the Light being controlled visible.
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By MAe12 - 7 Years Ago
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Gerry,
The controls are tied directly to the dummy or any object for that matter. That's the issue here...if we had viewports like Daz, Poser, Blender, Maya, etc., we wouldn't have to resort such as this. Nevertheless, it still won't work as the control must always be visible in the scene, tied to a dummy or not. Doing closeup reflection checks, shadow biasing, etc. is impossible by trying to control an object based on one viewport.
Thanx,
MA
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By justaviking - 7 Years Ago
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MAe12 (6/10/2018)
Thanx guys for the feedback but creating a dummy means that the object must always be visible in the scene.
Also, as I mentioned earlier, using the transform controls is very clunky...if they had scrubby sliders, that would be better but the modicum of control used now just plain sucks.
The object does need to be in-camera, or you won't be able to control it via the gizmo. That's why the use of the Mini Viewport becomes necessary.
The way you wrote that, it reminds me of this Feedback Tracker request:
http://www.reallusion.com/FeedBackTracker/Issue/Option-for-a-Floating-Gizmo-to-be-in-center-of-viewport
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By MAe12 - 7 Years Ago
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Yes, that is pretty much what I'm referring to but Reallusion doesn't seem to get the idea of a multi-viewport GUI like the rest of the world has.
Thanx,
MA
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By justaviking - 7 Years Ago
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MAe12 (6/11/2018)
Yes, that is pretty much what I'm referring to but Reallusion doesn't seem to get the idea of a multi-viewport GUI like the rest of the world has.
At the risk of looking self-centered, here is another Feedback Tracker item I posted that is very relevant to what you just said:
https://www.reallusion.com/FeedBackTracker/Issue/Multiple-viewports-to-aid-in-positioning-items-3-orthographic-1-free-form
In hindsight, I probably wrote it overly specific. If really should have been two different, but related, issues:
a) Multiple "working" viewports
b) An orthographic camera option
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By MAe12 - 7 Years Ago
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JAV,
I remember finding this post when researching my original query and it spells out in detail this huge iClone weakness. I've been with iClone since version 2 and upgrade every other version hoping RL will bring this app into line with pretty much everybody else on the planet but sadly they don't seem to give a flying f***. The lighting, DOF and lack of multiple viewports keeps me from investing my old (60+) life energy in such a toy GUI doing scads of 'workarounds' to problems that have been addressed for years in free programs.
Thanx for the link,
MA
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