CTA Crashes Anytime I have more then 5 little mates in a Scene


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By arsenewenger - 7 Years Ago
Hi everyone, I have a major problem with CTA 3 (pipeline version). Anytime I have more then 5 little mates in a scene the program simply crashes. For a second the scene will appear with the little mates missing a few sprites and then just crash. How can I mitigate this problem?

I have the latest version of crazytalk pipeline version and using it on a macbook pro.



By kylelee - 7 Years Ago
This is my testing...
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/bfaba92d-851f-4936-a1e9-a0b2.png

You can try to adjust Preference settings to lower.
By danielhew123 - 7 Years Ago
Hi Kyle,  I also have problems with the little mates collection.  The little mate characters cause serious lags in the software.  I have documented this on my recently YouTube video.  Garry pyes character have a lag associated with them. I haven't found a solution for my problem yet.  The character file size might be part of the problem.  I recently purchased a couple of flat characters from the store. I've had absolutely no trouble with them.  Anyway thanks for sharing your experience. I thought that I was the only person having trouble.
This is my video showing little mates problems.



Hopefully you find a solution for your problem with the characters. I still trying to find a solution for mine.

have a great week
Coolhewitt 23
By jlittle - 7 Years Ago
Hmmm, I'm not running a Mac but Win 7/i7 3.5GHz/16GB Ram/GTX 970 and I dropped 6 Little Mates onto my stage, gave them each animation (moving at the same time) and it ran fine, no crashes.

Jeff
By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
Hi guys. Garry Pye here. Creator of The Little Mate series of G3 characters for CTA3. I think you'll find the reason that the Little Mates characters can cause a lag issue on some machines when you have multiple characters on screen is because of their file size. The average Little Mate character is 14mb to 20mb in size, whereas the average G3 Elastic Folk character is 4mb in size and the average G2 character is 1.5mb in size. 

The reasons for the file size differences include- 

1) G2 characters are vector files which are smaller than G3 characters which are PNG sprite based. 
2) I tend to put a LOT of additional sprites in my characters to give users the widest possible range and variation. Some of my characters have over 60 mouth mouth sprites whereas the Elastic Folks have 15. THis is because I use sprite swapping to create the range of character expressions as opposed to facial puppeteering. 

The speed at which multiple characters on screen will run can depend on the machine youre running them on. For instance I run CTA3 on 2 desktops and a Surface Pro and get different speeds myself. I havent experience crashing however, and I have had multiple characters on screen. 

One solution would be to edit the characters youre working with by removing the sprites you do not need (eg. hair colours or styles youre not using) and this will reduce the file size and in turn speed up working with the character. My apologies that you are having these issues, and if ever you have any questions regarding my products, never hesitate to email me at garrypye@bigpond.net.au as I am always happy to chat. 
By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
Just quickly in response to CoolHewiit who suggested I "copy a lot of my own artwork" and don't change very much between my Little Characters, I'd just like to post this shot here of the current range of Little Mates I have available. Rather than thinking of it as copying my own artwork, I prefer to think that I am offering a series of characters that have a consistent look and feel about them, but with a wide range of individual looks. Much in the same way that Lego characters work, or Smurfs. And given that each character sells for $10US and often come with free bonus content,I think I give a fair amount of value for money in the work I produce. I think it is unreasonable to suggest that by reusing the hand, eye and mouth sprites on this series of characters that i am in some way taking a short cut or taking the easy way out. If I were to create an entire new set for each character, the price would certainly increase from $10US per character and then I'm sure Coolhewitt would be the first to complain that my content is too expensive.  I appreciate that Coolhewiit said "I haven't done a lot of videos with his stuff." I'm okay with this. In fact, if you would prefer to just focus on videos of your own content instead of mine, and leave me to do my own videos, I would appreciate it. If anyone would like to sepak to me directly, I am always available to chat via garrypye@bigpond.net.au https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/1c613c80-dae1-4ce6-87ad-bc5d.jpg
By arsenewenger - 7 Years Ago
Hi everyone thanks for the feedback. The problem still persists with CTA crashing anytime I add the sixth little mate (different characters). I don't think it's the machine since I am using a pretty new MacBook pro. 

Thanks Garry for the tips on scaling down the size of the little mates, I'll try that to see if it solves the issue.

Also, I wanted to thank you for creating all the great content and always providing help. The little mates are amazing and bring life to CTA. I don't think I would even use CTA without your content.

Cheers.
By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
Thanks for the feedback arsenewenger. Glad you like my content. I assure you there is plenty more on the way. Im not finished yet! Sorry the software crashes continue with larger groups of characters, even though youre using a more powerful computer. Its a weird one. Like I said, i run CTA3 on three machines - 2 PC's and a Surface Pro. The Surface Prop being the most up to date machine definitely runs everything with less load times. 
If ever you have any questions about my work or would just like a chat about CTA3, I am always around at garrypye@bigpond.net.au or you can drop by my CTA3 Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/garrypyeanimations/ and pick yourself up some great free content. If you swing by my page, be sure to drop me a private message to say hi! Have a great day.  

By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
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By vepop - 7 Years Ago
Hi garrypye,
I'm always tempted to purchase your characters but hold back my intention because CTA is my platform in sharpening my skill on creating my OWN characters.
Your characters might appear 'same' to Daniel but it is the look that makes the cartoon characters unique.
It is a GarryPye's signature!  Every cartoonist should have their own style.



By vepop - 7 Years Ago
Hi garrypye,
I'm always tempted to purchase your characters but hold back my intention because CTA is my platform in sharpening my skill on creating my OWN characters.
Your characters might appear 'same' to Daniel but it is the look that makes the cartoon characters unique.
It is a GarryPye's signature!  Every cartoonist should have their own style.



By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
Thanks Vepop. Glad you like my characters. And let me offer any help I can if you are in the process of learning to create your own G3 characters. Pop over to my Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/garrypyeanimations/ and send me a private message to say hi and I'll help in any way I can. I've produced a lot of G2 and G3 characters now, so I might be able to shed some light on it for you. There are a few hints and tips I can offer that might speed up the process. And since you say you've been tempted to purchase my characters, I tell you what I'd like to do. If anyone reading this post would like to test drive my Little Mates characters then I would like to offer Little Mate #1 - Ted and Little Mate #2 - Carol to you absolutely free with my compliments. All you need to do is either private message me on my Facebook page or email me at garrypye@bigpond.net.au


By vepop - 7 Years Ago
Hi Garry,

Thanks for the offer.
I've sent email for that and at the same time made a purchase of Lil'Mates #16 Nurse, #18 Security and Office.




By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
Vepop. Thank you very much for your purchase. I would appreciate your feedback on the characters here if you get the chance. Also, be sure to send me a Facebook private message on my CTA3 page at https://www.facebook.com/garrypyeanimations/?ref=bookmarks and say hi. And if you do that I can hook you up with the free Little Mate Ted and Carol today. Otherwise it will be tomorrow when I return to work. Look forward to chatting with you. 
By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
By the way Vepop, since you purchase Office Little Mate, when you 'Like' my CTA3 Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/garrypyeanimations/?ref=bookmarks you will also be eligible to receive a second, stand alone version of this character in a different suit colour, so you have an even better ability to customise his look. A lot of my characters and packs come with bonus content and all you need to do to get that content is join my Facebook page and send me your Proof of Purchase token or key that comes with your purchase.  
By vepop - 7 Years Ago
Wow Garry!  You're too generous.
By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
If anyone would like to take some of my Little Mates characters for a test drive, I am happy to give away a couple of the Little Mates characters for free and let people make their own decisions. But thank you for your message. And thank you for also joining my CTA Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/garrypyeanimations/
By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
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For those of you who may have heard Daniel Hews negative comments about my Little Mates series of characters in his recent Youtube video linked to in this forum post thread, then you may have hesitations about taking the leap to purchase my content if you don't already own some. But I'm going to help you with that. In his Youtube video, Daniel Hew suggests that my Little Mates "Really have some type of problem when you're dealing with them" and that "you'll notice that he copies a lot of his artwork" and of my characters he says "they're almost exactly the same". Now I can't ask you not to believe Daniel Hew unless I'm prepared to put my money where my mouth is. And since my reputation as a Reallusion Content Developer is very important to me, I am prepared to do just that. So if you would like to send me an email to garrypye@bigpond.net.au or a private message via my CTA Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/garrypyeanimations/ then I would like to offer you the first two Little Mates in the series - Little Mate #1 - Ted and Little Mate #2 Carol absolutely free with my compliments. But I think it's important that you get to test drive my content and form your own opinions instead of taking the word of one negative review. In addition, i will send you a stand alone version of Ted in a different outfit, so you have an alternative for him that will increase your ability to customise him. And be sure to check out all the great free content I have available in the Reallusion Marketplace. I hope to hear from you soon. 
By toystorylab - 7 Years Ago
Though most of my work is done in iClone on my side, i wanted to know if this issue is serious
or a lack of performance of the computer on the OP`s side...
Thanx to Garry for his generous offer (Ted +Carol FREE)...
I applied 9 little mates + motions
and i have NO ISSUES at all...

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My specs are:

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By vepop - 7 Years Ago
My Little Mates test. 
It works fine except that I have to close the other 3 programs which run simultaneously.



By vepop - 7 Years Ago
My Little Mates test. 
It works fine except that I have to close the other 3 programs which run simultaneously.



By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
Vepop, thanks so much for taking the time out to test my Little Mates. I hope you like me content and I hope to see you on my CTA Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/garrypyeanimations/ again real soon. Anything I can ever do to help, never be shy about calling on me.  
By garrypye - 7 Years Ago
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For anyone interested in testing some of my content before taking the leap to purchase my paid content, feel free to add this collection of hand drawn, large format, high quality PNG props (and even a full scene) to your collection. You can download them from my Dropbox folder today at https://www.garrypyecreations.com/crazytalk-animator-content/free-content/
I would appreciate any feedback you have to offer, and be sure to join my CTA3 Facebook page to get even more! 
By hebrew777 - 6 Years Ago
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