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By Dr. Nemesis - 8 Years Ago
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Has there been any word on the curve editor? It's essential to my use of Iclone and have been trying to consider that very carefully when deciding what version to buy.
Lately I've noticed that shop pages for Iclone and 3dXchange no longer make any mention of the curve editor.
https://www.reallusion.com/store/product.html?l=1
https://www.reallusion.com/iclone/pipeline.html
I'm wondering if it's no longer the plan to include it with the pipeline version of 3dXchange.
Either way it would be good to know as funds are limited and I need to know I'm not blowing budget on the wrong things.
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By Kelleytoons - 8 Years Ago
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RL has stated clearly it will come free with XChange Pipeline, or available separately for $150. I've never yet seen them change when they officially announce something (they *might* lower prices, but they rarely if ever completely change from an announced position).
I'd have to take a look at the various prices but it's quite possible getting Pipeline is still the best value for the money (it would have to be more than $150 than the Pro version for it not to make sense, assuming you also want the curve editor).
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By Dr. Nemesis - 8 Years Ago
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Kelleytoons (10/4/2017)
(it would have to be more than $150 than the Pro version for it not to make sense, assuming you also want the curve editor).
It is more. That's partly why I'm asking. Otherwise buying the Pipeline version would be the obvious choice.
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By eternityblue - 8 Years Ago
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Actually, RL told me last month it was only offered free with Pipeline through last month, so I upgraded to Pipeline.
If you upgrade to it, you will get a free curve editor, and this offer will end in this month. Otherwise, you will need to pay to get curve editor.
That was on 9/8
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By eternityblue - 8 Years Ago
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That said, I just looked at the Addon tab on the iClone product page, and it does list the curve editor as part of Pipeline still:
3DXchange 7 Access to millions of free models from 3D communityAccess to millions of free models from 3D community Import any character & motion into iCloneImport any character & motion into iClone Refine iClone content by sculpting & painting externallyRefine iClone content by sculpting & painting externally Connect users to the entire 3D industryConnect iClone 7iClone 7 users to the entire 3D industry comes free with 3DXchange 7Daz Genesis ExtensionDaz Genesis Extension comes free with 3DXchange 7 comes free with 3DXchange 7 PipelineCurve Editor Plug-in for iCloneCurve Editor Plug-in for iClone comes free with 3DXchange 7 Pipeline |
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By Dr. Nemesis - 8 Years Ago
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Then all is well! Although I didn't realise it had originally been stated as a temporary bonus.
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By eternityblue - 8 Years Ago
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Yeah, I don't even know how accurate that was, I admittedly got kind of pissed and felt like I was being pressured to buy 'now' or not have the chance to get the curve editor at anything approaching a sane price. Maybe it is still a limited time only deal. I honestly think it should be just included in iClone since every other 3d app I use has one included at no extra charge, and in the case of Blender and Cryengine, no charge at all. It seems something they should include to bring iClone up to par.
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By Dr. Nemesis - 8 Years Ago
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My memory might be off but I think the DUF files for Daz characters costed a fair bit before it became free.
My hope is that whatever reason there is to charge for the curve editor similarly doesn't last forever and eventually everyone will have access to it.
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By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
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Yes, I hope they havent forgotten the curve editor as it is a essential tool in a animation toolset. When asked for it they said it will be out in Q4, meaning now.
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By wires - 8 Years Ago
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AasmundSchei (10/11/2017)
Yes, I hope they havent forgotten the curve editor as it is a essential tool in a animation toolset. When asked for it they said it will be out in Q4, meaning now.
Q4 runs until 31 December. :Whistling:
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By justaviking - 8 Years Ago
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Dr. Nemesis (10/11/2017)
My memory might be off but I think the DUF files for Daz characters costed a fair bit before it became free.
My hope is that whatever reason there is to charge for the curve editor similarly doesn't last forever and eventually everyone will have access to it.
That's entirely possible.
Give it a full version, maybe two.
Imagine iC8 adding fluid simulations (at an added cost), then iC9 has another major new add-on feature. Maybe iC8 or iC9 will include the curve editor in the base product.
But we getting ahead of ourselves. First let's see how 7.1 is, later this year.
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By but0fc0ursee - 8 Years Ago
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It is advertised as a motion graph editor, not a curve editor.
Huge difference.
Curve Editor: (Surpass simple tangent adjustments).
~ Filters (Expression Editor)....matrix math.
~ Switch from TCB to Quaternion to Euler... on the fly.
....nevertheless, iClone users get to see the (x,y,z) tracks.
Hoohrayy!! :)
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By Dr. Nemesis - 8 Years Ago
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but0fc0ursee (10/11/2017)
It is advertised as a motion graph editor, not a curve editor.
Huge difference.
Swoop/but0f, See link in eternityblue's contribution to this thread. It says curve editor 4 times.
eternityblue (10/11/2017)
Also the video thumbnail at the bottom has a screenshot of Iclone open and the window says "Curve Editor"
*Edited to show both quotes.
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By but0fc0ursee - 8 Years Ago
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...delete duplicate post.
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By but0fc0ursee - 8 Years Ago
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Com 'On BigDaddy RL.. "Let 'Em CHANGE controllers and Add Expressions!" :Wow:
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By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
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Yes, its a pain editing the facial expression curves in the UnrealEngine animation editor :(
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By but0fc0ursee - 8 Years Ago
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AasmundSchei (10/11/2017)
Yes, its a pain editing the facial expression curves in the UnrealEngine animation editor :( Indeed it is. On the Unreal site it states... "If you are handling Morph Target animation, you will probably have a much easier time if you perform the animation in the 3D animation package from which you exported out the original Morph Target."
Game Engines are not known for awesome animation tools.
What you really want is to.... "Add Bezier Tracks!"
THIS makes animation layering "Super EZZZZ!"
If Reallusion allows you to "Change Controllers"... and add "Expressions"
...you will be one very happy camper. :cool:
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By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
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Atleast they could give us early byers a beta option :) As I understood those who bought the 3DXchange Pipline will get it for free.
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By but0fc0ursee - 8 Years Ago
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AasmundSchei (10/11/2017)
Atleast they could give us early byers a beta option :) As I understood those who bought the 3DXchange Pipline will get it for free.
(Read & Practice)
YOU can do it.;)
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By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
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I do pay for the things I want and I cant see any curve editor in iClone anywhere yet.
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By but0fc0ursee - 8 Years Ago
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I've waited since IC3 for a curve editor...
Kellytoons says 4th Qtr.
at the end of the day.... RL's said....."CURVE EDITOR"... NOT Motion Graph Editor.
...Yep, BigDaddy RL is gonna make it "BADAS", too. :kiss:
iClone 'B Havin' Thangs! :cool:
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By SeanMac - 8 Years Ago
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FYI https://kb.reallusion.com/Product/52536/Where-is-the-Curve-Editor-Plugin
For those that purchased the iClone 7 + 3DXchange 7 Pipeline package in Reallusion Store, the Curve Editor will be released along with iClone 7.1. Once this product is officially launched, we will send you a notification email to redeem. After redeemed, you may log into your Reallusion member account, go to the Order page, and download it from there.
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By animagic - 8 Years Ago
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I do pay for the things I want and I cant see any curve editor in iClone anywhere yet.
The curve editor has not been released yet.
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