CC_Base_Hip missing when reimporting to CC2.1.


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By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
I exported a standar female CC2.1 character as fbx to model a hair for it, but when I want to reimport it I get this message "CC_Base_Hip missing". What can I do to fix that?
By Rampa - 8 Years Ago
Did you use Blender? or another application?
By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
I imported it into 3DCoat with no problem. Sculpted the hair on the headmodel itself, exported it out as a fbx again but when I try to reimport the fbx to CC I get that error.
Heres what the mesh looks like in 3DCoat:https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/9779eb74-2723-4e83-b33c-7ac0.jpg
I will try to add another sphere and scale it into the headscale and sculp the hair over again.
By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
I tried to remodel the hair on a seperate mesh and import it into iClone, but when I apply a pose from the animation library the hair wont follow. I tried to link the hairmesh, but it didnt help. When I attached the hairmesh to the body it went out of position when I applied a pose.
By Rampa - 8 Years Ago
The hair must be rigged to the skeleton. AFAIK there is no skeleton support in 3DCoat. So your export is missing all bones. Thus the error.

By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
I could try to add it to Blender. There it worked the last time I had to add something seperate to the rigg.
By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
I tried to do a rigg in Maya. My steps:

Rigging
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/8b605de6-7b48-495b-a533-583d.jpg


Checking rigg:https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/6beaec43-0d12-49df-bb0b-a51a.jpghttps://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/67be3b87-6043-492e-ab81-4817.jpg


https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/2a282e63-bbee-4c1d-badf-9f4b.jpgThen I tried to import it to CC2.1 with the hipbone this time, but I still get the message. Is the iClone bones some kind of custom bones and not standar Maya rigging bones, that isnt supported?
By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
I think the question is, how can I make the hipbone in the Maya rigg to a CC_Base_Hip bone?
By vidi - 8 Years Ago
The hair must be rigged to the skeleton

That mean you need to do exactly these steps in Maya. 
look video > 1min27
That works for all,  Hair, shoe, Cloth ... 

If you ready,  select all and export as FBX 2012 << very important !!! 
By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
Thank you, but I found this one https://www.reallusion.com/Iclone/pipeline/flow_character_maya_import.aspx which I find easier to follow. But when I come to "Convert" the convert button is greyed out. Why is that? I followed all the steps correctly.
By Rampa - 8 Years Ago
Is the model you have in Maya the CC base model? You cannot just make one. You need the specific CC skeleton and meshes.
By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
Its the standar female CC2.1 character. I dont find much info about this error on Google, so I hope its fixable. Thanks for all your time so far :) 
By vidi - 8 Years Ago
Thank you, but I found this onehttps://www.reallusion.com/Iclone/pipeline/flow_character_maya_import.aspx 
w
ich I find easier to follow

But that is for Nonstandard CHARACTER and not for CC. You need follow the steps otherwise it do not work.
By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
Ah, will try to follow the YouTube link instead. 
By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
Today I decided to outsource the problem some more and I think I found it. Here comes a long post:
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/e50c70ca-eda5-49b2-954a-f312.jpg
Image 1: These are the warnings that shows when importing a iClone rigg to Maya
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/d9cf6b89-6709-43cf-af77-c67a.jpg
Image 2: Looking at the info you can see which bones that have a problem and what the problem is. Here you can see the CC_Base_Hip isnt complete with the bind pose.
I think that is why Character Creator or iClone dosent find the CC_Base_Hip when re-importing.

 https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/82ccbe1c-6a6e-48db-9236-2476.jpg
Image 3: Also, this is a interesting one. 
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/e0d81320-6cf8-4d79-9976-7576.jpg
Image 4: But the animations and rigg works fine :) 



So, now I finally know what the problem is. Does this mean that I have to rebind all the bones? Will that destroy the iClone structure so the bones isnt compitable with iClone or Character Creator anymore? 


Hope som rigging experts can help, so we can solve this.

By vidi - 8 Years Ago

Does this mean that I have to rebind all the bones?

No, do easily follow the steps
By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
Thank you so much, very kind of you to do the tutorial. that fixed it! 
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/90148d3b-55bc-417c-9ce2-5df0.jpg

By vidi - 8 Years Ago
You are welcome ! :)

Cylinder DRESS in action video 


By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
Thats a great walkcycle :) So now that I know what to do, can I make a custom character and bind it to the bones for the Reallusion basemesh? 
By vidi - 8 Years Ago
can I make a custom character and bind it to the bones for the Reallusion basemesh?  
That is another story !
You can create CC Morphs and conforming  DRESS, Hair for CC ....  but not create a new CC Character from a different Mesh for using in  CC 
if you want a custom character, that is   iClone compatible,  you need  to make a Nonstandard Chracter , with 3dXchange 
No matter where the Character come from. important is only it is a rigged FBX 
Here an Exampele how can rig a Character and converted to a Nonstandard  . 



By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago
Thanks for your help again. Yes, I have 3DXchance pipline edition. What tool is the one in the video? Edit: I found it :) 
By vidi - 8 Years Ago
What tool is the one in the video? Edit: I found it 


Of course you can also use Maya  for  rigging .

By AasmundSchei - 8 Years Ago

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/07ffb481-d547-4839-bb5a-f267.jpgTo confirm, exporting character out of iClone for rigging custom assets and reimporting works too with the tutorial. Thanks again :) 
By vidi - 8 Years Ago
I'm glad it works now for you 
If you know how to do it is actually easy :)
By theorysharp - 8 Years Ago
vidi (7/4/2017)

Does this mean that I have to rebind all the bones?

No, do easily follow the steps

 
I was excited to find this. I followed all the instructions. When I tried to import to CC, I get this crash!!
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/8c5338b7-565a-4032-9a7b-fbfa.png



By theorysharp - 8 Years Ago
vidi (7/4/2017)

Does this mean that I have to rebind all the bones?

No, do easily follow the steps

 
I was excited to find this. I followed all the instructions. When I tried to import to CC, I get this crash!!
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/8c5338b7-565a-4032-9a7b-fbfa.png

update - I reset maya preferences and restarted computer... seemed to fix it