Windows 10 issues


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By Dragonskunk - 11 Years Ago
Just installed Windows 10 and there are a few things a bit off.
In iClone all the sliders buttons are invisible until the mouse is right on top of them, thing is, the buttons are no thicker than the line of the slider. Very difficult to move them by using the mouse.
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By planetstardragon - 11 Years Ago
yer a brave soul lol,  i still have my upgrade downloaded but uninstalled till everyone works everything out....

I was just reading this article on windows 10 being the last windows operating system ?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/

now this is what's interesting about that statement -  the end of the windows 10 mainstream support is October 13, 2020 (extended support ends in 2025 )  does this mean that in 5-10 years,  windows will be replaced by an entirely new operating system ? :ermm:

especially curious is that intel is moving away from desktops
http://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-to-leave-desktop-motherboard-business-by-2016/

Meanwhile,  DX12 is all about the AMD...... so is amd the future of desktops ...and intel the future of mobile ? hrmmm
By Cellygon - 11 Years Ago
I just installed Windows 10 yesterday and do not have this problem... But maybe it's helpful to know that I did a fresh install rather than a simple upgrade. I did do a simple upgrade and ran into issues and bugs and glitches. So I decided to just wipe my drive clean and do a fresh install and everything is working fine now. Now I'm just trying to get all my files and other applications back.
By jlittle - 11 Years Ago
planetstardragon (8/2/2015)
I was just reading this article on windows 10 being the last windows operating system ?

What I've heard that means is that there will be no more numbered Windows (i.e. Windows 11, 12, etc.) it will just be called Windows.
I've also heard that they are also going to force all Windows 7 & 8 Home editions to update. You can defer the update for up to about 8 months but then all bets are off.
The other thing to note is that it looks like the Windows OS is going to a service base model (think Adobe) (think Office 365).
No more buy once and use for several years, it will be pay by the month/year.
With this model, says Microsoft, your device (desktop, tablet, phone, etc.) will always be up-to-date with the latest and greatest.
It's also been said that the troubling thought with this model for an OS is that it could open all sorts of doors for unwanted advertising being forced on your screen (think Google targeted ads on your desktop).

Jeff


By Rampa - 11 Years Ago
There will probably be a bunch of odd glitches that are unique to individual hardware/software set-ups.

Mine is that the wind motion for the Speedtree iTrees stopped working.
By jlittle - 11 Years Ago
Cellygon (8/2/2015)
I just installed Windows 10 yesterday and do not have this problem... But maybe it's helpful to know that I did a fresh install rather than a simple upgrade. I did do a simple upgrade and ran into issues and bugs and glitches. So I decided to just wipe my drive clean and do a fresh install and everything is working fine now. Now I'm just trying to get all my files and other applications back.

Yes, I prefer a clean install myself but it becomes a problem when you have many many applications to reinstall. I typically upgrade/replace my computer every three years and just did so last year. I'm not looking forward to reinstalling everything AGAIN so soon and "hope" that all the programs work on Win 10. It takes me typically a week to reinstall all my programs on a new computer and get them configured the way I want them. It's rare that an OS upgrade fully works for all applications and I gave up on them many years ago. Only clean installs for me. I also wait about a year to install any new OS so the biggest bugs are worked out. I'm still running Win 7 Pro and am happy with it. I have one test computer with Win 8 but that's it. I can wait for Win 10 until the initial dust settles and I see an advantage to install it (or am forced to).

Jeff
By planetstardragon - 11 Years Ago
a plan i was considering,  was to get another drive ( an ssd hybrid )   -  then mirror my current drive.   Once windows 10 is registered,  do a fresh install -  then migrate from the original drive.     I was thinking of just migrating the data and reinstalling -  but might be possible to migrate the entire program too.
By planetstardragon - 11 Years Ago
Just think,  now with Windows 10,  the military can do the ultimate botnet to Ddos the rest of the world on demand! :w00t:

why do I get the feeling eventually operating systems will be created and controlled by local governments ? :ermm:
you have to admit,  microsoft is getting quite Orwellian...err ..aggressive with their approach to windows 10!

By jlittle - 11 Years Ago
planetstardragon (8/3/2015)
-  but might be possible to migrate the entire program too.

Not sure how you would migrate a program. Data yes, but a program ...
Each program can install various files (dll's and com servers) in various parts of the system and usually need to register those files, as well as various classes and program info, in the registry. That whole process is done during the install. There can also be conditional branches in an install (depending upon the CPU type (Intel vs AMD), OS, graphics card, etc.) that are taken to install different support files for the hardware found in the system.
Trying to track down and migrate all the files and registry entries would be more work than just re-installing the program.

I have only two (old) programs, that I can think of, that I can migrate by just copying their directory over to a new computer. It works only because they are simple programs and do not use the registry and any support files are in the same directory. They are the exception. Most modern programs use the registry and various support files.


Jeff

By planetstardragon - 11 Years Ago
there are some possible options,  such as virtualizing the apps,  but you are right,  it may be more trouble than it's worth.

I'm still going to do the mirror drive approach though,  this way i can keep my current windows 7 drive in tact -  from what i understand ....you have to upgrade first to get windows 10 registered, so you can do a true clean install.   you can make a boot up usb or cd,  but it has to be registered to your machine first.    Thanks microsoft :pinch:


By bluemidget666 - 11 Years Ago
I have just installed windows 10 on my windows tablet, it took me 2 goes to get it to install ok.
All works fine, it took a few days to settle in and work smoothly , don't know why but one thing stands out as needing work, the GFX drivers often crash and sometimes is slow at re drawing the screen.
I am using it on a Microsoft device and it has these issues, so my guess is the GFX drivers might by the issue.

If they are you can expect updates to fix them shortly.

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I hope windows 10 does not go he way of Adobe, having to subscribe and pay a monthly fee unless it is for features I can either live without of find in other places.

£10 a year for the new edge browser and Ill make Firefox my browser but that would mean the new AI Siri would be will not work at her best.

In the end it may well prove a blessing for OS like Linux, if we find ourself trapped by microsofts plans .
By Dragonskunk - 11 Years Ago
I have a disk image of Windows 7 if it gets too annoying for me I'll just wipe 10 and go back to 7. I always keep all my project files on another drive.

For contrast here are my personal improvements I discovered with Win10:

No more taking exactly 1 minute to identify a network before connecting to the internet.
No more waking all sleeping drives before I can use 3DX.
Fast load of the OS, then again it is always faster when the OS is a fresh install but still a bit faster.
Better size and spacing of the taskbar icons mean no need for a fat 2 row of icons to see them all.
I kept getting BSOD when using iClone hasn't heppen yet. Peter said no one else is complaining about BSOD so it may have been the driver for my GTX 780ti.
By Alien Maniac - 11 Years Ago
Ahh Windows 10  on 3 laptops now and all is OK except
My main RL software programs laptop
I installed the MS Kinect from Rl. It  says:
The drivers  Kinect10.dll and openNI.dll are missing. Not found, nadaa
I even tried again to install the two programs from RL......NADA
I had windows search for the drivers and nada. So what to do?
I have the MS Kinect V-1 camera. I thought the drivers were included?

Anyone have a clue?
By kmiteff_20091227013941124 - 11 Years Ago
Hi, Dragonskunk:

I keep as many files as possible on separate drives and arrays, but iClone is one of those packages that seems to want to keep content in the User folders.  I notice when you install iClone 6 it give you a option to pick another media path for your content.  Does this work?  Or does it introduce more problems than it is worth?  Ultimately, I would like to do the same thing for my Daz3D/Poser libraries. DAZ 3D is an absolute mess...   
By Dragonskunk - 11 Years Ago
kmiteff_20091227013941124 (8/21/2015)
Hi, Dragonskunk:

I keep as many files as possible on separate drives and arrays, but iClone is one of those packages that seems to want to keep content in the User folders.  I notice when you install iClone 6 it give you a option to pick another media path for your content.  Does this work?  Or does it introduce more problems than it is worth?  Ultimately, I would like to do the same thing for my Daz3D/Poser libraries. DAZ 3D is an absolute mess...   


Everything works fine on my end all is in the D: drive. I think it glitched on first use of iClone that all folders appeared empty then restarted and all is visible and good since.