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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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I was using Pinnacle 17 and then I decided to move it over to my new computer. I found out that the license they give you is not for one use on one computer at a time. It is for one download only. If your computer crashes you are out of luck if you didn't pay extra for their Preimium service. The same applies to any other download you may want to have. I am going to look for another one not from Corel or Pinnacle. Ken:)
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By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
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sony movie studio with hitfilm makes me happy :cool:
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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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Which version are you using? Home or Platinum? Ken:) Edit What is hitfilm? Part of the package?:)
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By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
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i got the platinum from amazon for a really low price at the time. They always seem to have higher prices on their main site.
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By hattori kun - 10 Years Ago
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Hitfilm pro 3 has its own video editor and compositor. Its a good alternative to Adobe premiere and aftereffects. They're also very flexible with license allowing up to 3 concurrent installs. You can also deactive licenses online with no limits.
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By Popeye - 10 Years Ago
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Hello Ken
I don't know if this is any good for you. However I recently bought for a Hospice I do voluntary work for. This had Adobe Photoshop and Premiere Video Elements. I bought it on Black Friday for $59 half price for the two programme bundle. I got a great deal. I think the bundle (on Amazon) was going for $129 originally. It may be worth a look.
P.S At home I use premiere Pro
HERE
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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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I made a Mistake!!! I am not looking at Sony Vegas. I am looking at Sony Movie Studio. I am comparing that with Magix Movie Edit Both have a version just under $100 and that is what I am comparing. Update: The car seemed to have a fuse that was not seated well enough. the guy moved it around a bit and the lights worked. That's one thing off my todo list. Ken:)
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By rgreenidge - 10 Years Ago
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Okay I got ya. The Sony Vegas version I had on trial was the $600 one, I wanted 5.1 audio; all those new versions I've never tried because it seemed like at the time only the Vegas had it. The other problem I had was converting my videos to DVD, only the Sony Vegas let me adjust the video rates and other characteristics, but on the lower price Sony authoring program it was fixed and the videos in what I was shooting looked like crap and had to many artifacts for me. The Sony Vegas has a huge learning curve a few years back. The price tag keeps me away now. And even with the $600 price tag, it does not let you make 3D Blu-Rays, which you can render on iClone, side by side or over and under; I don't like that cyan / red glasses 3D's, that iClone can let you render, but I tried it just to see how it looks. It works, but the colors look bad. Sony wouldn't let you buy the DVD authoring version that produced the best looking DVD's with the other versions, only the $600 Vegas.
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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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I finally figured out how to get a video and some music into the Magix program. I also managed to put a Narrator voice over the top of everything. Now I am working on a Title to place over the video while it is running. It looks like I may be using Magix. (Not that I managed to get the book punched on the right side of the paper. It was reading backwards before.) Ken:)
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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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I am downloading a trial of Magix to see if I can figure out how to make Titles and Credits with that program. So far I seem to have a mental block on that issue with Sony and Pinnacle though Pinnacle was what I used before to make them. For some reason I cannot do it this time. (Old Age again??) I need to get busy on a field that is in a drought and some country with a drought for now using iClone6. Ken:)
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By SchachMatt - 10 Years Ago
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Hi Ken, I am using Magix Video Deluxe now for some years - German versions since I live in Germany. If you trial it and get questions - I will be of help. Greetings from Germany, Gerhard
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By rgreenidge - 10 Years Ago
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Ken, with the Sony Vegas software what I loved about it that no other software seemed to have was it's menu functions. I wanted to make a tour video that if you got to a street corner, it was to give you a choice of going left, right, forward or to turn around. Only Sony Vegas gave me those options to select multiple buttons, to go to any film clip on the timeline at any point. Others just give me continue or loop, unless I missed something. Also Sony is not that easy and has a high learning curve. With Pinnacle and the others, I was limited to their menu screens and buttons. With Magix, I could use my own screen photos, move and create my own buttons, pix in pix, and set where I wanted video looping in the menus to start or just be fixed. Titles were easy, I can change the colors, including each letter. To make it easy I just pick one of the ones they have, and change the text. The text choices are normal or 3D. I usually add a black outline so you can see the text better with most backgrounds. I haven't used any of their menu backgrounds, I substituted my own photos. You can edit your background photo for the menus, and add text and put buttons next to them. The buttons, and chapter or title frames can be moved and resized to your liking in the menu screen. Like you I'm retired, and I want things to be easy to remember and to work with. Two things I never liked about Sony Vegas and Adobe was the prices, and Adobe didn't include 5.1 audio when I tried it out.
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By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
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I actually found sony super easy to use and learn....BUT it has a lot of options, plug in and features that allow you to really get into advanced editing ....and That's where the learning curve gets steep.....but for editing ? pfft...stuper easy .....you drag the clip in, point to the spot you want to cut ...hit s ...done..
Now if you want to get into advanced masking and rotoscoping ...better get some coffee lol!
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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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I have a trial of Sony Vegas and Magix on the computer now. I just hope I can get something made to try them out before the trial runs out on them. It will be a few more days until I have something to play with. Hopefully. Thanks for all the help. Ken:)
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By mark - 10 Years Ago
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I've used SONY Vegas for a few years now. I have Adobe CS6, before the Cloud version and it's still fine, but I just love the speed of editing in Vegas and all it's great audio filters. For me it's the "Swiss-Army-Knife" of NLE's. If you can get the Vegas suite version it will come with HitFilm I think which is awesome:D
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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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Managed to move the files over from the other computer for Pinnacle and find my old email with the serial number on it so I have it working on the New Computer now. Ken:) EDIT: Now I found that I cannot make a good title in either program and must relearn them over again. I may end up with the Sony Product afterall as I have seen a few things in it that I like better. Time will tell. Ken:)
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By justaviking - 10 Years Ago
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KenCoon (1/20/2015) Managed to... find my old email with the serial number on it so I have it working on the New Computer now.Excellent. :)
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By SchachMatt - 10 Years Ago
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check also Video deluxe Premium from Magix; it comes with many additional plugins
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By james_muia - 10 Years Ago
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I use Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 and Adobe After Effects CS6 with Element 3D plugin, and a bunch of Red Giant plugins.
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By elektron2kim - 10 Years Ago
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SchachMatt (1/20/2015) check also Video deluxe Premium from Magix; it comes with many additional plugins
I keep hanging onto Magix products. ;)
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By rgreenidge - 10 Years Ago
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Ken, I've used and tried them all; Adobe, Sony, Pinnacle and Corel who at one time was Ulead. It's a long story but I needed 5.1 audio, and I'm now looking to make two versions of my iClone movie, one in 3D after I finish the original. With iClone it's easy to render in 3D if you don't want to mess with the focal points you won't have to do anything. I use the side by side method. I've been making and selling video DVD's since they first were available, then Blu~Rays. Video Quality is more important to me than special effects or compression. A few years ago after being frustrated with the output quality I got from Pinnacle and Ulead (Corel), I searched and found Magix. My Blu~Rays looked like what I saw from the camera, no artifacts or dull colors from AVCHD to MPG2 conversion that Pinnacle and Corel gave me, and Magix (MPG4 output) didn't want $10,000 (Sony) to put 3D on a Blu~Ray. I always bought the Magix Plus version to get the 5.1 audio. Early last year I cross graded for their Video Pro X 6, because the price was right. The Movie Edit Pro Plus, has everything I need, and I found is no real big difference than the Video Pro X, except it has more color adjustment features, which would have been great for my older video cameras. My newest cam, has great color and white balance and is not needed so far. Go to the Magix site and download the free trial which ever one that fits your budget. I had no trouble putting the plus version on this computer, after putting their Video Pro on the other. They even come with sound sync so you could sync the audio, to another video track. That would be great to have split scenes in sync taken with two different cameras in clone, in two different places or rooms. I check and try the other free trial video editing software when they come out with a new version, and so far I find that nothing has made me want to change. I love it. Now if I can get something with 7.1 audio, I'll might go for that, but only if the video quality doesn't suffer.
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By animagic - 10 Years Ago
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I use Sony Vegas. I bought the Suite which comes with Hitfilm Pro 3.
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By jann - 10 Years Ago
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I use Magix too :-) Movie Edit 2015 Plus.
The basic use is quite easy. More advanced functions in Plus/Premium version can be a bit difficult to figure out, but absolutely worth learning as the program is very versatile and powerful (relative to the price). And it interacts nicely with other Magix software i have: Music Maker (background music), Xara Designer (masks, simple 2D animations, titles etc...), Xara 3D Maker (3D titles),...
Actually i got my first iClone as an extra software together with Movie Edit :)
I also have Serif MoviePlus X6. It's quite handy, and good for simple video editing. Not as advanced as Magix, but might be a good choice eg for CrazyTalk Animator users who are already familiar with Serif products in connection with Serif DrawPlus, which is recommended by Reallusion for CTA character and prop design.
Earlier i used Corel Video Studio. OK for some basic video editing. However, it was extremely unstable and crashed all the time :( ...almost as often as iClone 6.0 ;) ;) Very inappropriate joke, sorry :blush: :Whistling:
I have tried some different video editing software - but i keep always coming back to Movie Edit Plus :)
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By VegFile - 10 Years Ago
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Ken, You should be able to install your Pinnacle software on the new computer. Here is a link that might help. Prior to deleting from the old PC, be sure to cut and paste your activation keys in a document for future reference. Try installing the software on your new pc first before deleting on the old if that has to be done. I'm sure the customer service will help out if necessary.
http://unlock.pinnaclesys.com/premiumcontent/faq.aspx?Langue_ID=7
One suggestion for new software is the Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 11 Production Suite Version 11, the older version of this product. It currently is on sale at amazon.com for $25. This is a complete video editing and dvd creation package that likely close to being as good as the newest version. As a Vegas user myself, I started with the equivalent of the Studio HD and as I found that I enjoyed it/found it better than the competition, I eventually moved on to Vegas 10 and later Vegas Pro Suite (Vegas Pro 13, Hitfilm, DVD Architect, Sound Forge, lots of extra plug ins). Obviously the Pro Suite is much more expensive than the initial outlay for the Studio version but maybe the Studio version is just right for you at this point at least for comparison purposes. Here is the Amazon link for the Studio version.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Studio-Platinum-Production-Version/dp/B0051M6IPI/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1421700444&sr=8-6&keywords=sony+creative+software
I moved to IC6 recently and am getting used to it. Like the new interface but IC6 needs programming refinement which RL is doing I see.
Good luck, Ken.
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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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It is morning here now so I am back at it again. I forgot to mention that about $80 is my upper limit. I will go to $100 but not more. I am sure I can get something in that range. So far if I cannot get my Pinnacle back, I will be going with Sony MovieStudio, probably the Platinum edition. I should know by the end of the day here today. I have a trial edition now. Ken:)
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By planetstardragon - 10 Years Ago
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oh, ken, hitfilm doesn't come with the sony platinum btw ....it just comes with a built in plug in that allows you to integrate hitfilm. I don't want you getting bad surprises on that.
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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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It looks like Song Movie Studio will do what I need. It works a lot like Pinnacle17. I am wondering if I could just take the Pinnacle folders from the other computer and transfer them to the new computer with a USB drive or would I need something else to make the new computer recognize it. It seems like I would need some sort of install program for that. Ken:)
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By KenCoon - 10 Years Ago
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The Sony Platinum is $79.95 right now. They usually offer you some discounts if you don't buy right away. I am downloading the Trial now. It has the hitfilm inside it according to what I read on their site. I will see how that goes. I don't want to put out any more than that for another several weeks. I made a short thing with some background in it and am wanting to make it. I am going to bed now and will continue the download in the morning. Ken:)
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By Darren01 - 10 Years Ago
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I use Pinnacle Studio 12 But I purchased it on CD, so no licence issues. I have it installed on both my laptop and desktop
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By Draian63 - 10 Years Ago
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My suggestion is Hitfilm 3. Download the trial, it's fully working no time restriction; although you can only export to you tube in SD no more than 30 second... but you can really evaluate it... it is a firly good editor, with many SFX and can do many things as AE but much more easily... my 1/2 cent
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By justaviking - 10 Years Ago
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I use Pinnacle Studio, largely out of habit. I'm surprised you're locked to a specific computer. Have you contacted their Support? If you explain you have a new computer they should be able to help you.
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By nat woi - 10 Years Ago
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well http://www.magix.com/int/ they have a 30 day trial if you deside to get it hit me up first I have a extra one we can work out a deal http://www.magix.com/int/movie-edit-pro/detail/
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By Lost Filmmaker - 10 Years Ago
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Sony Movie Studio for now, probably change it sooner or later. Also Final Draft for screenplays, FL Studio and Audacity for scores.
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