Nothing personal Planet, but you're defending the indefensible.;)

You need to add the problems encountered on the English Forum to those on the French & German Forums & the Education Establishments that use iClone. Possibly Reallusion's core iClone Business. Like CrazyTalk & CrazyTalk Animator are.

The above being said, I thank you on behalf of iC6 Users for your iC6 Beta participation. You did your best, under what have turned-out to be trying circumstances. :)

I've been involved in various beta test programs, and an used to keeping the beta activities private, especially prior to release.

But I've never been told not to reveal, after the release, that I was a beta tester.

Many prefer to remain quiet about their activity.  Why?  To avoid being flamed in the forums.  I'm starting to see the wisdom of that anonymity.

Conclusions:

• PlanetStarDragon works for Reallusion
• MovieMachine works for a competitor

No?

So... when will people learn NOT to buy version X.0 of anything?  If you can't trust Reallusion to make a good initial release of a product, don't buy the initial release.  Once bitten, twice shy, right?  Even if Reallusion doesn't learn from their mistakes, you can.

I was thinking the same thing.  Didn't anyone wonder how Reallusion was able to showcase Inidgo renders by actual users on the day iClone 6 was released?  That sort of let the cat out of the bag.

Yes, that would be constructive.

Accurate bug reports, and a huge thing in my book, is a set of steps on how to duplicate the problem.  A problem that the development team can reproduce is 80% fixed.  If they can't duplicate it, it's much harder to fix.

"The beta testers were probably given a lot of goodies (payment or bribes, essentially) so they'd say good things about Reallusion and iClone 6."

I've already seen words to that effect in other threads.

LOL.

Some beta testers don't do much, so maybe they come out ahead.

Most spend many, many hours backing up their PC, installing, uninstalling, reinstalling software, hitting bugs, encountering dead ends, and a spend lot of time and effort typing up BUG REPORTS and verifying bugs that others found.

Assuming the beta testers got a "free" copy of iClone 6, which would be customary, the good beta testers probably worked for the equivalent of the astounding get-rich-quick rate of $0.07/hour.  Now that's incentive!

As I said, I've been in other beta programs, and often they are the harshest critics, especially in the privacy of the beta environment.  But they're not haters.  They make their cases strongly and passionately!  But they remain professional.  They move on to the next issue, helping to make the software better.

Justaviking didn't actually think so.  ;)

That's funny.  I'm growing fond of new UI, but that's still funny!

(Don't get me wrong, I still get lost a lot, and I haven't really pushed the new timeline features like I want to, but overall I think that in March if I were given the opportunity to keep the new UI or go back to v5's UI, I expect I'd vote for the new one.  But that doesn't mean I can't laugh at a good jab.  You get 2 points for that one.) 

In defence of our beta testers, they were given a shorter than ideal amount of time with the software but did an amazing job of tracking down issues in the time they had, even with no real documentation.

The biggest issue at the moment is that iClone 6's system requirements are much higher than iClone 5 and this has meant many IC5 users are simply not able to run the software.

I will say that for users whose systems meet the recommended specifications they will not be experiencing major issues. For sure there may be some stability issues and we are working hard to reduce these and correct remaining bugs in the upcoming 6.01 update.

What I would say is that if you are personally experiencing issues with iClone 6, then please contact us at Technical Support and supply your dxdiag.txt. We will certainly work with you to try and get the problems fixed.

http://www.reallusion.com/CustomerSupport/User/QForm.aspx

Bug there are many. Crashes there are often. System resources there are never enough. The new Indigo toy is just out of reach for mortal computers like mine.

All-in-all I have to give RL a thumbs up for releasing iClone 6 early, even though we have no manual and even though there are bugs, I still have my iClone 5 to fall back on if I have to, but honestly - the only reason I have opened V5 was to find transfer old content and assets to V6, Not a single time to actually use it for creating a scene (yet!).