"Insufficient Disk Space on Drive C. ICLONE needs minimum 2268 MB to execute properly...( Not exact but pretty close ).."

I was surprised because my drive C had more than 200GB free space !!

Generally speaking, the duration of the project will have very little impact on the size and the loading of the project (someone please correct my if I'm wrong).  By far the biggest factor should be the contents of that project.

A 10-second long project with 800 props and 50 avatars will load a lot more slowly than a 10-minute clip of Chuck walking around on a terrain with one tree.

QUESTION:  Is it only iClone that gives you grief?  Does MS Word open quickly?  Is Internet Explorer quick?  How about launching iClone without loading a project, is that fast too?

Hmm... dumb theory... If you have a bunch of iClone project assets on a second disk (HDD), could it be running very slowly for some reason?  I would love to see your Crystal Disk Mark results for all the disks in your system.  Maybe we've been looking in the wrong place???

It's the converting data part (or whatever it's called) that is confusing and takes a long time. What is there to convert, if it has already been saved once in the iClone version you're currently running?

I've posted that several times, Job, without a logical Reply. :unsure:

Not only do Projects Data Convert, some Templates do, as well.

As an aside - IMO, the iC5 increased Timeline to 15 minutes is a mistake, in that it can lull an inexperienced User into happily banging-out a 15 minute Project,  finding that eventually it won't Open.

Peter, I knew I had read it before... A logical answer?...:crazy:

Anyway, we have now established sufficiently that it's not just rampart who has this problem.

Shall we keep this thread for discussing as it has a more descriptive title?

First - About the malware... I am so sorry.  I should have taken the time to link you to a reliable site.  The tool itself is clean, but some download sites are deceptive.  They often have a lot of "fake download buttons" and it's hard to tell what's an advertisement, what is a link to malware, and what is the correct download button to use.

Speaking of malware, not that you'll trust my recommendation right now, but Maleware Bytes is a highly regarded tool.  It has a free version.  (The free version runs only on demand, meaning after you've been infected, while the paid version provides continuous, proactive protection.  I run the free version anytime I suspect I went to a bad place.)  You can get it directly from their web site:  Malwarebytes.org

ABOUT THE DISK SPEED RESULTS:

I translated the numbers into "how many times faster your SSD is than your HDD":

A very short description of the numbers are:

• Sequential read/write - This is similar to reading/writing a nice large file on a freshly defragmented disk
• Random read/write 512KB - I think this is similar to working with a large, but somewhat fragmented file
• The last two rows row simulate working with lots of small files, and you can see the stunning difference in your two drives... nearly sixty times faster on one measurement.

In the very best scenario, your HDD is still only half as fast as your SSD.  So whatever problems you're having with iClone, it would only be worse without your SSD.

MORE ANALYSIS:  Both your SSD and HDD values seem somewhat on the low end to me, but not horribly bad.  I have one HDD that gets values similar to yours, but I have newer ones (3TB) that are much faster (though still way below my SSD).  My SSD is faster than yours, overall, but you win on the random write (4k).  It's hard to find any SSD that wins on all the benchmarks, so it's always a tradeoff (but for consumers it is splitting hairs, but if you're running a large database or hosting a website then you'd need to shop more carefully).

BOTTOM LINE:

I do not believe your slow load times is caused by your disk drives, and most certainly not caused by your SSD (which is 2x to 58x faster).

For the performance problems, we need to look elsewhere (very likely at iClone itself, based on comments by others).  But I can understand your frustration with the 128GB SSD filling up too quickly.

Late last night, I remembered a conversation about loading an "environment" (I can't recall the exact term) and how there was a large difference in how it was handled versus another option.  I know I'm being very vague, sorry.

I think it was like if you had a terrain with houses and trees and stuff, and you saved it as a single entity, then it loaded differently (slower, and/or more memory usage) than if you did it in pieces.  Does that sound familiar to anyone?

But since you made your itty-bitty test case, I guess that probably doesn't apply.

1) Turn Off Windows Indexing Service

2) Windows OS System Restore can be a life saver, however it can eat-up OS SSD  space if you have too many Restore points. Deleting old ones could help. 

3) Check Windows Automatic Scheduled Tasks & select manual, instead.

4) Disable Programs' Automatic Updaters. Select Manual instead. That includes Windows Automatic Updates

5) Check Task Manager Processes for All Users. Stop those that you can easily identify.

6) I've never used Free Program; Enditall, however that can automatically end all Processes not needed by Windows OS basic functionality. But it needs to be very carefully configured.

7) I use Diskeeper De-Fragmenter Program that over-rides Windows OS De-Fragmenter. it Defragments on the fly when your HDD is "Idle". However, you have an SSD

8) I use Window Washer & jvcPowerTools Programs that clean-up a number of Temporary Files generated by Windows, Internet Explorer etc & obsolete Registrty entries etc. All on a daily basis.

9) If your iClone Camera(s) don't see Objects, exclude them. 

10) I use W7 Free Microsoft Security Essentials, which is all you need for maximum PC protection. Programs such as Norton & McAfee have a large footprint.

11) I don't do incremental saves, since there would be far too many with my particular Workflow. But I do Save every few minutes.

12) I have Acronis TrueImage Backup Program. W7 OS has a  Free one. I do a System Disk Image Backup after a day's iClone Editing.

13) I do Windows OS & my OS HDD Error Checks weekly.

14) Delete iClone Temporary (Render) File

IMO, an hour or-so spent a week in keeping a clean & healthy PC, reaps dividends re; Video Editing, per se.

My experience with this error message came from having about 16 avatars on set (NOT low poly but G5's) and even though I could work on sets ten times that size as I built them up, saving them and trying to reopen them again later.... was a no-go.

However, deleting the avatars from set and saving / reloading after that, everything was fine.

I can only assume that as windows opens the file, or iClone, which ever way you want to view it, memory managers come into play.
Because sometimes when I waited with that ceasing message window open, and then cancelled it iclone would continue to open the file then that warning window came up again. Then Id wait. Then cancel it yet again and sometimes, just sometimes, the file would finally open.

Memory management. It swallows up all the ram, windows swapfiles and plays with virtual memory but IClone doesn't give it enough time to do this. Either on the system or the Graphics card.

Deleting the avatars from set en masse made the file open every time despite its size.
I don't know why that is, I don't care. It works and its a workaround for me. Someone else might be able to see why this is so.

Just for future reference on complex and large sets save your avatars in one folder and the set in another. Here, this works every time. It doesn't slow loading times adding avatars and props etc ......... but............. it allows slow progress & development of the scene.

And slow progress is better than none.

Armstrong.