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By johxng - 13 Years Ago
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With the December release of Crazytalk 7 Pro, I was wondering when the roadmap for CrazyTalk Animator Pro would be available.
I would rather not purchase Crazytalk 7 Pro only to find that its features are included in the next revision of CrazyTalk Animator Pro. ;)
Any info would be appreciated!
-J
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By Peter (RL) - 13 Years Ago
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Hi J, There is currently no information regarding the upcoming features of CrazyTalk Animator 2 because it has not yet been officially announced, and development is still on-going. What I can tell you is that the two products will remain separate. CrazyTalk 7 will continue to concentrate on talking heads only, and CrazyTalk Animator will still allow talking heads and full body animation.
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By strosfan47 - 12 Years Ago
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It is very conspicuous to me that no updates have been made available for CTA since 8/11. It also seems that, despite the promise of low-cost animation creation, that not many users of the product are out there. (I base this on low number of recent posts on this forum).
Is there really a roadmap for CTA? Or is there a legit danger that the 2D tool will be abandoned altogether?
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By Peter (RL) - 12 Years Ago
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strosfan47 (1/11/2013)
It is very conspicuous to me that no updates have been made available for CTA since 8/11. It also seems that, despite the promise of low-cost animation creation, that not many users of the product are out there. (I base this on low number of recent posts on this forum).
Is there really a roadmap for CTA? Or is there a legit danger that the 2D tool will be abandoned altogether?CrazyTalk Animator 2.0 is currently in development for release later this year. It has certainly not been abandoned. :)
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By HD13 - 12 Years Ago
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good to hear that CTA is not abandoned! it is a fantastic product. The apparent low number of users might just reflect that it is not so popular among people with primary scope on personal entertainment/game like experience/some photo editing related stuff and the fact that it does have a learning curve and user needs to create content for use in CTA, which is time consuming, but essential for custom animations.
Btw. will 2.0 have a Mac version?
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By Peter (RL) - 12 Years Ago
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unique (1/15/2013)
Btw. will 2.0 have a Mac version?Yes a Mac version of CTA2 is planned. :)
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By Panzerkampfwagen - 12 Years Ago
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I'll give my two pence why there are a low number of users down there. Unlike many companies that look to reducecost/increase no.of.users, Reallusion does not seem to prefer the model.
While the stock price of the product is really affordable, one immediately gets the sense that it feels so so short when they look at the add-on packs. And even after the add-on, buy from the reallusion city.. somehow, this seems really very expensive.
My e.g.. CTA for 200$ -> Very good.
CTA Add on packs -> 300$ extra..
Reallusion city -> 30-50$ more..
In my over enthusiasm, i did buy it off for CTA.. It was kind of okay.. Only when i was thinking about Iclone.. then i realized that the hole in my pocket would be much bigger.. Reallusion can only perform animation well on already created products. Creating models from scratch is not really in there.
I am not criticising Reallusion, but i think with the current business model, not many people would stick with reallusion, and also making/animate any picture, is obviously not as simple as is shown in the demo videos.
Reallusion claims to offer a loyalty discount for regular users. Last year, i had made a purchase of around 500+$. What good is a loyalty discount if i can't use it when i want? There was a combo offer of Iclone+3DxChange, for some time. But they told me that i cant use my combo until January 2013. By that time, the original offer is gone, the christmas season also has gone and now prices have increased and combos also not available. Then, i will like to know from someone, how on earth is that loyalty discount useful?
The goal of a company should be to retain a satisfied user, year after year to upgrade their products and make a user buy their new products with full trust and satisfaction in all forms, and most importantly make him so happy that he brings new customers. I had it with a year. I don't think it is worth for me to stick around with Reallusion anymore. Goodbye.
I hope that some moderators of Reallusion are reading this email.
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By AverageJoe - 12 Years Ago
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Personally, I think CTA has so few users because there's just not that many features to compete with other 2D animation products. It's very rigid and limited in a lot of areas. I hope CTA gets the features that truly make it a useable product, for creating a wide range of animations, that isn't a tedious PITA to use. Hopefully someday...
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By Peter (RL) - 12 Years Ago
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Panzerkampfwagen (2/6/2013)
I hope that some moderators of Reallusion are reading this email.Thank you for the feedback Panzerkampfwagen. We appreciate you taking the time to share your views. The points you raise will certainly be reviewed by the rest of the team. :)
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By strosfan47 - 12 Years Ago
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Would Reallusion honor a free upgrade to the next version of CTA if the current version, the one rife with known rigging and support issues, was purchased now?
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By Peter (RL) - 12 Years Ago
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strosfan47 (3/7/2013)
Would Reallusion honor a free upgrade to the next version of CTA if the current version, the one rife with known rigging and support issues, was purchased now?Unfortunately not. CTA2 is planned for a release in the 4th quarter 2013. There may be a free upgrade offer made available nearer the release date though. Also I have to say CrazyTalk Animator is certainly not rife with rigging and support issues. I'm not sure if you have just heard this as a rumour but it is simply not the case. If you are personally experiencing any issues then please let us know. We will be glad to help.
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By strosfan47 - 12 Years Ago
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Peter -- I've already been through the rigging and support issues firsthand. Had to return the product because... well, it's all documented. Please go through my prior posts and support requests/replies, and you'll get the flavor of what I went through.
I invested 28 days trying to get my custom actor rigged and running. No luck. All I got from support was... well, look it up. It certainly was subpar, to say the least.
It's obvious that updates to version 1 are long overdue. No updates since 8/11. Now you want your customers to pay double to simply have a product that is viable?
Not cool!
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By strosfan47 - 12 Years Ago
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With that said, I WAS grateful for the attempts at assistance from others on this forum. But at the end of the day, the product simply is not ready to support the 2D animation needs of our company.
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By Peter (RL) - 12 Years Ago
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strosfan47 (3/8/2013)
Peter -- I've already been through the rigging and support issues firsthand. Had to return the product because... well, it's all documented. Please go through my prior posts and support requests/replies, and you'll get the flavor of what I went through.
I invested 28 days trying to get my custom actor rigged and running. No luck. All I got from support was... well, look it up. It certainly was subpar, to say the least.
It's obvious that updates to version 1 are long overdue. No updates since 8/11. Now you want your customers to pay double to simply have a product that is viable?
Not cool!Hi Strosfan, I do fully understand your frustration on this matter. While you say you were told by Support to "look it up" (I'm sure it wasn't in quite those terms), the reality is that there is no magic answer that can suddenly make you a great character creator in CTA. Just like no one can teach you how to become a great artist. It takes time, practice and plenty of patience to master it. Sadly we all take to things in different ways. Some pick up things quickly, others not so much. It is a fact of life. We can't all be great at everything. But you only have to look at the many character content packs available for CTA. These were all created using the inbuilt system and show what can be achieved once you master the process. Regrettably, because you have not been able to fully get to grips with the character creation system so far, doesn't mean the process doesn't work or that CTA is faulty. What we can do from our end is try to make things easier and more intuitive in the next version and that is the plan I assure you. :)
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By darian.kanius - 12 Years Ago
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To the people talking complete none sense, claiming Reallusion's software is not popular because the forums are not active. People have lives other than dwelling in forums. There are a lot of people out there that do not go onto forums when they purchase a product. In fact forums have become some of the worst places to look for 'real' information and end up being a depressing place full of digital babies that can not take the time to learn the software and demand it taught to them or people that can not read clear instructions as to what they just purchased.
I work for an online marketplace that sells digital goods, we have a forum and support area. We have thousands of daily customers and very few people are on the forums. They much rather use support so their answers go right to the staff and don't get mixed up with all of the crying.
Something for you people to chew on. :D
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By brothertcoleman - 12 Years Ago
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Personally I think Reallusion's software is great but the only issues a lot of people have with CTA is ,what seems to be simple fixes that have to wait for later this year and not taken care of or patched now ,such as making changes in character composer then going back to stage mode and things are still out of place etc.
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By rumblehouse - 12 Years Ago
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Peter (RL) (3/7/2013)
strosfan47 (3/7/2013)
Would Reallusion honor a free upgrade to the next version of CTA if the current version, the one rife with known rigging and support issues, was purchased now?Unfortunately not. CTA2 is planned for a release in the 4th quarter 2013. There may be a free upgrade offer made available nearer the release date though. .....
Any chance of a preview of CTA2 before it's released?
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By Peter (RL) - 12 Years Ago
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rumblehouse (3/20/2013)
Any chance of a preview of CTA2 before it's released?There is already a small preview of some of the features planned for CTA2 on the thread below. https://forum.reallusion.com/Topic146699-251-1.aspx We will of course be revealing more as we move closer to release in the 4th quarter 2013. :)
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By mrcork102 - 12 Years Ago
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I'm a newbie...this software is incredible if you take the time to learn it. I can't believe the babies on here who rather be spoon fed and blame CTA when they want instant results without a learning curve. Nobody wants to take the time to learn this incredible software. I'm appalled at the level of blaming the company because the animator did not take the time to learn the product. I want to do a 3 stooges slap and poke...LOL
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By AverageJoe - 12 Years Ago
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Go try several other animation applications then come back to CTA and say how great it is. It's not a question of learning the software, it's very easy to learn because there really isn;t that much to learn in comparison. Also it's easy to learn because it's so limited in it's feature set. As someone with years of 2D animation experience, and experience with other animation software, making something difficult through obscurity doesn't make it a good feature. CTA has great potential, and someday I hope it's get realized.
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By medicoons - 12 Years Ago
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Panzerkampfwagen (2/6/2013)
Reallusion can only perform animation well on already created products. Creating models from scratch is not really in there.
Not sure I agree - have a look at some of these videos - all the characters and props were made from scratch with AnimatorPro
http://www.youtube.com/user/e3her
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