@Mike You can indeed put CC clothes on them. Same with the hair etc. It takes a raw, 3D scan and turns it into a CC mesh. It basically "lays" the topology of the CC mesh over the scan. You can then further refine the mesh as you would a normal CC character (as it is a CC3+ base mesh at this stage), or change the textures, fix them up etc. I also rendered the characters in iClone using Acculips with some motions, but haven't uploaded them to showcase unfortunately. 

Headshot 2 Looks like a great update.

It can be bought for 50% for a limited time but Is there any special upgrade path for Headshot 1 owners or is it the same price for all?

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Then you REALLY have confused me - a CC3+ mesh has a very certain number of verts (and in a certain order).  When you bring in, for example, a Daz figure through Transformer it is remapped to that standard (so you lose verts in an HD character, for example).  Are you saying this is the same thing here?  That you bring in another mesh and it's REMAPPED to the CC3+ mesh?  If so, don't you lose a lot of details, etc?  Don't get me wrong, I'm impressed if this is what is happening, but it will also mislead a lot of folks who think they are bringing in their own mesh and using it in CC/iClone - it should be made very clear that it's still a remapped process and you WILL lose details (no way to avoid that).

(BTW, if this is the way it works I'm actually all for it - it would have been what I would have suggested.  I just don't want folks to get upset down the road when they find this out).

Also (and, again, just not enough time to watch all the stuff to figure it out - this also means you are only remapping the head, correct?  So you can't just bring in another mesh with a body and hope to preserve that, right?  Again, I'm no opposed to this, but you should have people understand this or they will purchase on the theory they are then able to animate their own meshes (in fact, the promo I watched definitely implied that, saying it would "re-rig" the body mesh, which would NOT be what is happening if it's just remapped onto the CC3+ body).

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@Mike Nope, other than the shape that it takes from the scan, it also bakes a lot of the details to a normal map. It's basically like any scanned mesh that's used in games etc. All AAA studios retopo the scans and then just bake it from the high to low. This basically does the same thing, just with simplified steps for the user. Does it lose quality? It loses a lot of unnecessary vertices, yes, but the shape is still there, the rest of the stuff (for example, the wrinkles, skin details etc) get baked into a normal map. Check out what Detroit: Become Human did, for instance, they also used 3D scans yet they're optimized for realtime and they look absolutely incredible (I'm sure I saw them using Wrap3ds I think it's called in their process too? It's almost the exact same process Headshot 2.0 uses now.) Something I also forgot to mention is that Headshot 2.0 uses alignment points. The more you add, the more accurately it wraps. It's quite a popular method. If I wasn't in bed already, I would have shown you the raw scan and the CC mesh I got, it retains quite a lot of detail, especially for realtime use.

Edit: I don't think you can compare the Daz transformer to the method used in Headshot 2.0. They work in different ways. Think of Headshot 2.0 more as a shrinkwrapping technique based on alignment points. This results in more accurate meshes, because, well.... It's a "new" type of technology. (Not really new, but you get my drift, lol.)

This looks very interesting. Is there any update to the 2D photo to 3D options or is Headshot 2 focused on mesh conversion only, with the 2D to 3D from Headshot 1 included without upgrades?

If you watch the video below from the current time it explains what happens during the generation process. This should help make it clearer. 

https://youtu.be/CVLGXsJoosc?t=471


                                                                

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There are no new features added to the Headshot 1 2D photo to 3D workflow. The big new addition in Headshot 2 is the Mesh to CC Head technology.


                                                                

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The Align Points method instantly made me think of R3DS Wrap, which lead me to purchase instantly for that alone, without looking very closely.  I'm curious if it is R3DS's Wrap tech integrated or just similar.

Either way, even though the plugin is called "Headshot", if you have that kind of Wrap method available, should definitely expand to support bodies, not just heads. At least when it comes to the align points method. 

The new scanning method also looks like a major step up.  The original 2-photo method could just never compete if you wanted realism.

So I already use Zwrap and wrap3D software with CC characters, I can’t see any advantage here as it’s doing the same thing as far as I can see? Also I can’t see the symmetry option in x for points which they both have.If there are any unique features then I would consider upgrading from headshot 1 which was IMO a waste of money, otherwise will stay with wrap software

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Headshot2 is amazing! This is going to save me a lot of time and cut out my reliance on additional software! Great job RL!!


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