Not to get too OT here (although it's still somewhat to the point considering what 3DX is all about) but traditional 3D programs were a whole universe onto themselves.  No one working in 3D Max, for example, would have thought to go outside that program to do ANYTHING.  And, to broaden our horizons somewhat, the same is true of ANY program more or less.  While you can see or edit the component parts (like an image, or perhaps the individual midi notes) you can't use the proprietary format of ANY program, be it Photoshop, Prosonus, Cinema4D, etc. etc.  Autodesk developed the FBX format and is still "responsible" for it (whatever the heck that means in a non-standard) but there has never been a particular push to develop an industry wide delivery of ALL component parts of an animation.

It's only in relative recent times that folks have started using a wide variety of things to do their work.  That development might lead to more universal pipelines but I wouldn't hold my breath unless some standard clearly rises above all the rest (just too much work with too little payoff to support too many things).

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I use 3DXChange to import the 'props' and 'accessories' I create (using mostly Sketchup, though sometimes Blender). Straight forward 'accessories' (ones that don't need to be split up into parts) can come into CC3 directly from an exported Sketchup .obj. And if it's a 'prop', then again, for choosing select 'parts' I go via 3DXchange. Sometimes I'll import the mesh in sections (one part at a time) so as to prevent the parts being "merged" into one mesh. That way, if I need to swap out (modify) one particular part, it's possible. Not sure if it's the best way to operate, but it seems to work OK. Plus, I've found that the *.obj format* gives me the most consistant results when sending meshes between programs - I've tried many other formats, but always come back to .obj. The "yellow" paths below are my *most trodden* when it comes to accessories and props.





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@sonic: So I assume you have the paid version of Sketchup, because I don't think the free version supports OBJ export.

For props I also have better luck with OBJ, although its one of the oldest formats. Nice diagram, by the way.

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Yes, I also think the diagram is very professional.


"Less clicks good, more clicks bad."

honesty,  i think it's time to integrate all the products into one package at this point -
They don't have to give up the modular aspect,   they can just sell expansions to 1 software to have more features,  c4d does it that way now..

Firstly so they can fix  "Iclone"  -  not 3 separate programs ,  that need separate file systems and asset libraries,  and needlessly use up resources, plus the man hours to fix each of these resources individually with 3 entirely different results, that are ultimately redundant modules in 3 separate programs. 

then we can go on to what "Iclone" is missing,  because honestly,   i get different results when importing fbx in 3Dx,  Iclone and CC3
I think this will help optimize system performance once and for all.  

They REALLY need to clean up the clutter before we can honestly proceed effectively.

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"Less clicks good, more clicks bad."

If "custom facial expressions" means "include visemes," 

we will have to wait for more information from the next CC4. I too would like to be able to add more visemes for the French language ...

@ Job "I assume you have the paid Sketchup, because I don't think the free version supports OBJ export"
I use SU 2015 which although dated, does at least support .obj export.

@ Planetsdragon - Yes, it sure would be a time saver to be able to import directly into iClone or CC3.

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● MSI GT72VR Laptop, i7 7700HQ 4-Core 3.8 GHz 16GB RAM; Nvidia 1070, 8GB Vram ● iClone-7.93 ● 3DXChange Pipeline 7.81 ● CC-3 Pipeline 3.44 ● Live Face ● HeadShot ● Brekel Pro-Body ● Popcorn FX ● iRAY ● Kinect V2 ● DaVinci Resolve17 ● Mixcraft 8.1

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