@BenjaminTuttle, sure. if the shorts were all in the same story world, I could see that approach for a series.

Nathan

@animagic, no doubt shorts can create buzz and perhaps even deals. My problem with 'getting noticed' is even if you get financing, you are back to square one, making a film. At this stage of my life, I would rather invest time in a marketable product from the start.  For me, having a clear goal and project plan are what motivate collaborators to invest their time. 

Nathan

@planetstardragon, great examples of collaboration growing an organic following. For me, fun is actually producing a marketable product. Otherwise, it becomes a circle jerk with collaborators showing off their skills to each other, but making limited progress on delivering a marketable product.

Nathan

the thing with creating a "marketable product"  is that it requires lots of marketing money.,  thus a risk ....in the fun model , you create a hit product first,  and the people that become fans become your word of mouth salesmen.    Cold starting a random project,  is like trying to make a pop star over night with just ads.....with the advent of the internet,  a clever business is to have your marketing ads generate income,  rather than going all out of pocket for a product no one knows. 

you will get more youtube views from tutorials, behind the scenes and the making of generating ad money   than the money you'd spend trying to make everyone aware of 1 movie they never heard of before.   -  that style marketing is old brick and mortar pre internet.   - people need a story and a cast they can fall in love with,  then they will pay to keep it going because it feels good. -  unless you have like warner brothers marketing money,  then you create feel good products and marketing ,  and advertise it so much people will wonder how they fell in love with something they never liked to begin with.     this is why popular music sucks and all movies are the same. it's corporate training by marketing.

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@planetstardragon, I get what you are saying and there is no reason both can't work. Right now the approach you are describing is what new authors (myself included) are using to market their books, instead of hoping some publisher will "notice" us.

Sharing the writing process and interacting with them is crucial to selling books. I don't have to write a formulaic novel to please a publisher's marketing stats of what the audience expects. However, I do have to use my writing skills to develop a product that delivers the experience my fans are looking for and counting on. That experience, as well as interacting with the author and contributing their ideas, drawings and  book related memes on the book site are all fun.

Nothing in what I am proposing precludes that sort of community - either with the fans or with the collaborators.  
The challenge in developing a fan base is in creating a space where they can contribute; i.e. do something. There are millions of Meetups, Discords, Zooms, YT channels, Slacks, & SubReddits, that are supposed to be fun, but they falter because there is no focus or inspiring activity.  People show up, find a bunch of people there, BS ing and little else. The ones that people come back to and contribute to are those that have defined purpose and process (which is basically, culture). That way they don't feel like they are wasting their time. 
Look at the TikTok Step Chicken cult; they were bored until this chick stepped up and gave them a purpose (swarming other channels). They're having fun.

We could do the same. Like a series where, for various individual reasons, people refuse to stop wearing masks. In fact, they create increasingly elaborate masks to convey their personal identities. The collaborators could have fun inventing characters and stories. Fans could design their own masks or suggest new characters or create fan art of their favorite characters. But that sort of fun begins with an infrastructure and a hard goal, imo.

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I'm a little late to the party here, but I was curious if you had a commercial example of the quality you think would be possible using iClone, etc.?



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Great suggestion. I actually do not have any examples at this point. I will try to create a scene and post to my YT channel.



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@Space Rider, clever idea. Lots of ways to go with that.

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