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I think I would be very interested in seeing 8K textures to be honest, up that eyebrow to 300 x 1200!   I like renders of big faces, so maybe this is why this would matter to me, but I think the same could apply for a tiled map on a landscape, you may get more from a higher fidelity texture.  Although, I do find that ALL textures than must be high, otherwise the combo of lower res ones with higher res will make the effort not worth it (ie - a high res landscape under a pixelated sky.)   True however, what you say, the average customer/viewer will not notice...or will they!?  (because gamers and cinema/TV viewers are very adept these days in critiquing an overall take on visual fidelity.)  
Also, great point you had, I agree with what you said earlier about maximizing resources in context of some of the effects you may use (bloom, blur, DOF, color temperature)

@Kimmie - congratulations on a project together, have fun!  Animagic is a wonderful guide who always has great thoughts on completing projects. 
My own personal find is that you can do things - (1) finish a project, or (2) stall infinitely for exploration of perfection's sake.  So - Pick #1, you'll accomplish more!!!!

My friend.... comercial renders like you use, iray, vray akjshakjshakray, etc ray... uses supersampling for textures. so you can use textures wih 512x512 for open  takes , and 1k for closed takes. and you will see the detaiils like a nice skin , a nice armor, etc. inside realttime engines. you dont have supersampling for individual textures, the unique realtime engine have this feature is toolbag 3. in game engine you have mipmapping and its sux. its blur more than smoth textures. so both unreal, unity or iclone for closed takes 2k textures is the minimum acceptable for a nice look in closed takes and for superclosed takes must be 4k. its a fact. this and many other reasons make me change my workflow inside iclone. today i divide my project in little pieces just for that. change textures resolution. work all as 4k and force iclone down to 2k to work , when i need a superclose i change it for 4k. 1k textures inside ANY game engine not just iclone make you work looks bad. maybe that you think the unique solution for your work look good is use external render, or like other guy says "real 3d render" or something bullshit like that.  

and about uses 4k renders, is not about the television or monitor ppl uses to see your work online. its about compression, the unique way to fight against the
high compression used on online video players is increasing your resolution. this work very well for 2d videos , for 360 videos this problem (compression) totally destroy 360 videos forcing you use 4k + for 360 renders. i will start produce interactive content for oculus very soon, and the exigences for interactive videos as APPs its the minimum 4k, and recomended 8k. and the phone display dont have this resolution.  

..... and! about i using many bloom or many dof on my works, who talk that, dont show me refereces as animation works i can see as good refereces. so...

Thank you, Tony. 

We will not be stalling, but it does need to be done right. 

~ Kimmie

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Reiterating what Animagic said...  Please start simple.  I know you want the first Gospel to be as well done as the last Gospel, but it is unrealistic to expect your FIRST PROJECT to be as good as your tenth project.  So you need to practice.  At the very least, I am certain you will go back and update or refresh your early projects because your skills and knowledge will increase as your continue working in iClone.


About "4k textures"...   As was mentioned, a 4k texture is not the same as a 4k image that fills the screen.  For a piece of clothing, the entire outfit probably fills one texture, so a button or an employee's name on a work shirt only gets a very small portion of that texture.  Thus, if you do a close-up and you want the buttons and the embroidered name to be clear (not blurry or pixelated), then you need a high-resolution texture so you have plenty of pixels for the button and the name.

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My friend.... comercial renders like you use, iray, vray 

akjshakjshakray, etc ray... uses supersampling for textures. so akjshakjshakray, etc ray... uses supersampling for textures. so 

you can use textures wih 512x512 for open  takes , and 1k for you can use textures wih 512x512 for open  takes , and 1k for 

closed takes. and you will see the detaiils like a nice skin , a closed takes. and you will see the detaiils like a nice skin , a 

nice armor, etc. inside realttime engines. you dont have nice armor, etc. inside realttime engines. you dont have 

supersampling for individual textures, the unique realtime supersampling for individual textures, the unique realtime 

engine have this feature is toolbag 3. in game engine you have engine have this feature is toolbag 3. in game engine you have 

mipmapping and its sux. its blur more than smoth textures. so mipmapping and its sux. its blur more than smoth textures. so 

both unreal, unity or iclone for closed takes 2k textures is the both unreal, unity or iclone for closed takes 2k textures is the 

minimum acceptable for a nice look in closed takes and for minimum acceptable for a nice look in closed takes and for 

superclosed takes must be 4k.superclosed takes must be 4k.

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thx for your education , and sorry, sometimes i get really pissed, and use strong words. so dont get me so serius when i use wors like FU* and bullshit   

Thank you, Just a Viking.  I do appreciate your feedback. :-) 

But we will work as hard as we need to in order to get it done right and of good quality the 1st time. 

We don't want inconsistencies in the DVDs.  

But please don't misunderstand me: We are not trying to compete with Pixar. 

They may have a million dollar studio, but we have quality of content. :-)  

It needs to be smooth and have no issues in it from the very beginning. 

The differences from the very 1st episode will be very small going to the very last episode. 

But we will be asking questions to you guys along the way. :-)

~ Kimmie

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Wow, thanks for this advice for iClone animation. I brought some characters in from Daz; using them as avatars but they consume lots of memory. I have an elaborate backyard with house that also takes up memory. If I set that up in Daz or Blender and join everything, then import through 3DX, as one piece of geometry, you are saying this will help with memory?

Also what do you mean by converting avatars to animated props?

Thanks,

Nathan

Nathan