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Hi,

Could anyone please point to portfolios which illustrate the photo to 3D head feature of CrazyTalk? 

I tried this feature in the trial version and wasn't too impressed (i LOVE the 2D feature) but I think I didn't give it a sufficient chance.   I'm hoping to see how more skilled folks have made use of this feature, and be inspired by their work.

Also, is it possible to create a 3D head from photo in CrazyTalk and then use that head in iClone?  Or is that same feature already available in iClone?

Many thanks!
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All the heads in the jars and in this video (including my friend, the prof and Drac) were made in CT8 Pipeline (and then imported into iClone):



However, nowdays (with CC3 Pipeline) I'd use Daz and either Facegen or Headshop (I particularly like Headshop).  Both have demos, I do believe.



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Hey, good job on the video, impressive!

Thanks Kelley.  I didn't know about Headshop so your post is very educational.  And it's available for Mac!  Definitely will be checking it out.

This morning I just posted a tutorial on the DAZ forum regarding how I do it the um, stupid way.   Looks like I need to run back there and wipe some egg off my face.  :-)
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Can you tell what headshop is better?


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I have the latest version (which is Headshop 11) but recently they released a "stripped down" version:

https://www.daz3d.com/headshop-oneclick2

From the sounds of it it would do all you would need (the only stuff it lacks isn't anything you really need to get into iClone).

However, it is Windows only so for the Mac guy he'd have to look at the Headshop 9.2 Mac (unless there's a more recent version of that).




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The stripped-down is better because it includes a side profile option and more shaping points.

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Here's a thread about Headshop on the DAZ forum.  It contains a number of examples from users.

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/292591/headshop-11-questions/p4

So why would one choose Headshop over CrazyTalk?  Does Headshop deliver a better quality image?  Or is it more a case that Headshop is designed to work with DAZ, and sometimes working in DAZ is preferred?  Or something else?

Is there a portfolio or gallery somewhere which shows numerous photos being turned in to CrazyTalk 3D heads?   I'm hoping to find more examples of skilled people using that tool to get a better idea what I might accomplish in CrazyTalk if I put the work in.   Thanks.
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Crazytalk 8 Pipeline can give very good results with some practice. It is also higher resolution, supporting 2K images. Not sure if the others can actually support high resolution. I've only ever soon low from them.


Those others are for DAZ. You could then bring them in via the Tranformer into CC3P.
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The big advantages Headshop has over CT8 is it can work with photos with open mouths or smiles, and photos where the lighting is uneven or the actor is not facing straight on.  It also does 4K, if that's a factor.  And it's also MUCH easier (sometimes too easy).  Honestly since I bought it I've never used CT8 and probably never will.

If you have very evenly lit faces with closed mouths CT8 works just fine.



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It looks like the "Headshop 2 OneClick" is the best one. Like KT mentioned, it is "stripped-down". That means it does not have the useless-to-iClone-users extra props (which are pretty cheesy), but it does have a side profile that is probably very helpful. It looks to do a pretty good automatic job which can then be edited. If you're a DAZ user, it is a no-brainer, I suppose.

Thanks for the 4K heads-up, KT. Smile



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