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If you have ANY DAZ avatar, clothing or hair that doesn't work

Posted By Kelleytoons 6 Years Ago
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If you have ANY DAZ avatar, clothing or hair that doesn't work

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Can you suggest any good Hair for Male formal looking.

I have most of the ones from reallusion store but I am looking for something Equivalent to SWAM hairs.
I made mistake of not asking your opinion and bought a male DAZ hair which I had to eventually refund due to issues.
I will try to find again but if you have any which works great will be deeply appreciated.

Regards
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777ideas (7/13/2020)
Wow! Thanks a lot about your help!!! I really appreciate!
If you don't mind I have one more question about long rope exporting from DAZ to iClone, because bottom part of it moving in fancy way.
Here is video on that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8mMo32D9qA

Sorry again about for so many questions and thank you again!


If you mean "robe" instead of "rope" the problem is that, as you note, it's weighted as pants.  You need to weight that as a skirt, so just take that particular clothing item, reweight it as a skirt or dress, and it should solve nearly all the problems (you still may need to apply some physics weight mapping to that to get it perfect, but I have a lot of tutorials on that process and it's difficult to describe them all here, particularly since my time on my desk is limited due to my surgical recovery -- hopefully tomorrow I'll have my laptop but in the meantime I try and steal a few minutes here and there).



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sungod (7/13/2020)
@Kellytoons
Can you suggest any good Hair for Male formal looking.

I have most of the ones from reallusion store but I am looking for something Equivalent to SWAM hairs.
I made mistake of not asking your opinion and bought a male DAZ hair which I had to eventually refund due to issues.
I will try to find again but if you have any which works great will be deeply appreciated.

Regards
Sun

Maybe this one will work in CC3
https://www.daz3d.com/lennie-hair-for-genesis-3-and-genesis-8-males  All the best for speedy recovery.


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sungod (7/13/2020)
@Kellytoons
Can you suggest any good Hair for Male formal looking.

I have most of the ones from reallusion store but I am looking for something Equivalent to SWAM hairs.
I made mistake of not asking your opinion and bought a male DAZ hair which I had to eventually refund due to issues.
I will try to find again but if you have any which works great will be deeply appreciated.

Regards
Sun


You may need to be more specific -- there is a LOT of Daz hair which will work (and a lot which doesn't) and while I can advise you if something specific will or won't there are SO many styles it's hard to know what you are looking for.  If you have an image of something you are seeking I might be able to find something equivalent.





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Wow! Thanks a lot about your help!!! I really appreciate!
If you don't mind I have one more question about long rope exporting from DAZ to iClone, because bottom part of it moving in fancy way.
Here is video on that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8mMo32D9qA

Sorry again about for so many questions and thank you again!


If you mean "robe" instead of "rope" the problem is that, as you note, it's weighted as pants.  You need to weight that as a skirt, so just take that particular clothing item, reweight it as a skirt or dress, and it should solve nearly all the problems (you still may need to apply some physics weight mapping to that to get it perfect, but I have a lot of tutorials on that process and it's difficult to describe them all here, particularly since my time on my desk is limited due to my surgical recovery -- hopefully tomorrow I'll have my laptop but in the meantime I try and steal a few minutes here and there).


Yes sorry for mistyping! Wishing you quick recovery and will let you know results! Thanks again


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@Kellytoons
Can you suggest any good Hair for Male formal looking.

I have most of the ones from reallusion store but I am looking for something Equivalent to SWAM hairs.
I made mistake of not asking your opinion and bought a male DAZ hair which I had to eventually refund due to issues.
I will try to find again but if you have any which works great will be deeply appreciated.

Regards
Sun


You may need to be more specific -- there is a LOT of Daz hair which will work (and a lot which doesn't) and while I can advise you if something specific will or won't there are SO many styles it's hard to know what you are looking for.  If you have an image of something you are seeking I might be able to find something equivalent.


1)
https://www.daz3d.com/lennie-hair-for-genesis-3-and-genesis-8-males
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2)
https://www.daz3d.com/short-fade-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-females-and-males

3) I had bought this https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-corporate-hair-for-genesis-8-male-and-females  with bad results.

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As I said above, avoid any hair that has dForce in it (they just don't work well in CC3).

Lennie hair is okay, but very "heavy" hair (it's nearly 1 million polys).  You can reduce the polys, but in general this is a losing proposition (you're using chasing your tail.  If the hair needs that reduction it then won't look very good.  And vice versa).

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/e655d709-f73e-4c4e-be05-2ab7.png

The short fade hair is a combination of poly and fiber.  The poly part looks okay, but the fiber "short" part of the equation doesn't look good (looks like someone didn't shave very well).  Again, stay away from fibermesh stuff.

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/a02addec-3b0d-4376-8280-195d.png




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Thank you  Kellytoons.
I hope new laptop is working fine for you and all the best for fast recovery.
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Hi Mike Kelley
Quick question on the next models. Let me know which are good to export into CC3 and iClone with their hairs
Thank you so much!

https://www.daz3d.com/asher-hd-for-genesis-8-male

https://www.daz3d.com/kai-for-jonathan-8

https://www.daz3d.com/theo-hd-for-michael-8

https://www.daz3d.com/bruno-hd-for-michael-8




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General comments first.

HD characters will not import into CC with those HD details.  They will come in "smoothed out" so don't be disappointed if you lose a lot.  The new SkinGen will allow you to get *some* detail back with combining normals maps, but the modeling details will never be translated.  As a very general rule I don't use any HD models from Daz unless they are so extreme (like a Boar man) losing detail won't be a problem.

And we always mention (but worth mentioning again) that fibermesh hair is a Bad Idea -- doesn't animate well, doesn't look well.  I would stay away from anything with eyebrows made of it.

So -- pass on all four of these, due to fibermesh eyebrows/beard and HD details which will be lost.  Honestly, with Headshot you can create a lot better characters yourself directly inside of CC3.



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