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Kevin.S
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Kevin.S
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andrewlargin
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andrewlargin
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Not going to name you as I'm far too drunk now but not totally incompetent.
Thanks lads for your feedback, how the fuck else am I gonna learn anything. I am English of the London variety and I try to keep my language as international as I can but if it slips and you do not understand some things I say do tell.
The editing tips are all good and I will look again whilst sober but I think its likely best I just type direct. The main reason I did word apart from the editing thing is I got the worst internet connection in the known universe so after typing when I click post reply I might lose everything so ……..I will copy and save and if the internet fucks up I will read your instructions.
As for Iray I am NOT going to buy excessive amounts of gear until the BBC gives me a lucrative contract, in my dreams. I dream big but don't care about the outcomes. What it does is it keeps me honest and on my toes so I improve but might not reach my goals, so what, the learning is what I like as long as I go slow.
Just heard Indigo is making a come back, anyone got an opinion if that's a viable option as I think Iray isn't for now, maybe later? I have been told Indigo render speed is much quicker. Not the same quality but an improvement and I will take whatever I can.
Been a pleasure, useful information, civilised conversation, lets continue and show others how to do it like all our politicians of all persuasions Bill Clinton and that idiot Tony Blair for example …..innit….even though I'm well pissed (that means drunk in Englander speak, not angry, mellow).
Sorry on reflection I have to name one name MR Akeui2
Very happy to think and live out of boxes but I ain't got the experience or knowledge to understand how to export iclone projects to Blender or Unity. I am new to iclone so am not even competent at it. Done a wee bit of basic Blender and it seems rather mysterious to me. I am not dismissing what you say and really would like to know how to maximise quality but I think for the moment I am better off learning iclone than new stuff. Correct me if I am wrong. As I said new equipment is not going to happen now as what I got works, I am just trying to plan ahead a bit. Maybe back to learning tomorrow?
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justaviking
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justaviking
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@Andrew - Reallusion has stated that the Indigo plugin is at end-of-life. They will continue supporting it in iClone 7.x for existing customers but it's not for sale anymore. So unless something changes, it won't exist in iClone 8 whenever that appears (could be a long time, which means more 7.x free updates, so no rush yet for me).
iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity... Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual monitors. Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD
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wildstar
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wildstar
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so iray plug in for iclone dont suport multi gpu ? why i am not impressed ?? ( i was think about buying iray right now i never learn lol )
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4u2ges
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4u2ges
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wildstar (10/9/2018) so iray plug in for iclone dont suport multi gpu ? why i am not impressed ?? ( i was think about buying iray right now i never learn lol ) I think you've misinterpreted JAV post. Iray does support multi-GPU for rendering in iClone and CC. iClone itself still does not.
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justaviking
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4u2ges (10/9/2018)
wildstar (10/9/2018) so iray plug in for iclone dont suport multi gpu ? why i am not impressed ?? ( i was think about buying iray right now i never learn lol ) I think you've misinterpreted JAV post. Iray does support multi-GPU for rendering in iClone and CC. iClone itself still does not. Indeed.
I tried to be clear...justaviking (10/9/2018)
d) Iray will support multi-GPU setups, but iClone does not. So the native renderer does not benefit, but your Iray renders will benefit from a second GPU. Iray on the CPU is multi-threaded, but still a lot slower than running on an Nvidia card.
iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity... Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual monitors. Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD
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akuei2
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akuei2
Posted 6 Years Ago
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Sorry dude, I didn't know your situation, just forget about pipeline & other app. Let us focus on, without iray what can IC7 achieve in optimum result. The picture show a raw, dirt & quickly works without any post effect. Floor is substance material, Spotlight cast shadow at back, left is weak GI light, and right hand side is Strong GI light. The robot stand for non-organic(main metallic) prop, character stand for organic prop. In term, GI is nice combo with subtance material (Floor) & non-organic prop (PBR shader). In order to optimum skin for organic prop, weak GI light can mimic fake sss effect. Those are not rocket scene, only a patient work with tuning the light (bias level ) at balance state. Not only for IC7, common real-time engine also can obtain same level quality but only playing a light. The rest, you can apply LUT to mimic different style movie. IC7 is fun to learn, but patient is everything.
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andrewlargin
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Akuei2
Now thats what I'm talking about, how to improve quality, nice pic man or what. Just read what you said about the lighting and got two problems, maybe more. Got a nice hangover after last nights fun so my brain is fuzzy. I have learnt little about lighting as I found iclone has worked so far for me without putting in additional lights just playing with every slider and button I can find. This was OK but I would like to up my game if possibe so I was looking for some sort of shortcut like iray or indigo but seems like I just have to do my time and learn shit, shame but thats the way it is. The cat is also in my room sun bathing so its hard to look at the screen and I don't want to spoil her fun as she's a bit neurotic so its nice to see her relax.
Once she's gone and my hagover is gone I will re read and look more closely at your work.
Do you have an opinion on indigo as it seems to do something. Maybe I can persuade Realussion to let me have one for cash money if the render speeds are reasonable?
PS just looked at the image again breifly with the blind down, it really is quite stunning. Do you have any vids I could look at as I'd like to see what your animation looks like using these techniques?
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akuei2
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akuei2
Posted 6 Years Ago
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Nope, Indigo is a toy, same as iray plugin currently. Fun for playing, that's all. Honestly, nothing special techniques apply at these roughness work. Everything I do , just based on knowledge where I can learn from official source. e.g. Casting shadow by default light, adding GI light for bounce & tracing purpose, tuning position and value until " Ya, this scene look so natural ".
There video shown how bloom effect & GI light act on PBR material. What can we see ... Light is magic, and Rock with Music, make anything possible. Please refer back the template project are provide by IC7, and learn it. This is something I call it "shortcut"
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AutoDidact
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To answer the question of the thread title Is IRay a game changer?
well yes for that part of the Iclone user base who does not own Pipeline with full export options and is already or $$$willing to invest the required hardware$$$ from the NVDIA corporation. and is willing to endure the vicissitudes of an exponential increase in animation render times Or is only doing stills ( in which case you could be using Daz studio with its models and content for still portraits free of charge) I am not part of the above Demographic so ... IRay in iclone is completely moot to my pipeline.
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